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EndreWhiteMane: Off to errands now, see you all later.
See you later, Endre!

*waves goodbye to Endre*
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ddickinson: But if the customers didn't keep paying for such horrible practices, then the games companies would stop doing it. Take DRM, for example. If all gamers refused to buy games with DRM when it first started, do you really think the companies would have kept using it? Nope, we would have our games back. But because people keep throwing money at these bad practices, the companies keep doing it.
It was always the big hyped games that breached the customer resistance.
Half-Life 2 brought Steam, Spore and BioShock established online activation (like "can't go without it" Windows XP before).
Steam taught the people that it can be convenient and "hip"- with the updates and cloud saving and achievements and trading card.

Of course every time the DRM screw tightens a little more people are howling and crying. But in the end they still want to play the games. I can't point fingers here, I have Skyrim too.

It's the same with DLC. Games like Dragon Age and Mass Effect lead to a habituation. Formally they're "complete" without the DLC, but every piece adds something to the "world building" and characters and a "normal" version starts to feel incomplete. Doesn't take long and consumers accept really incomplete versions with "insert coin for more" written on it.

It's the same like we're getting used to processed food and ever increasing costs in most essential things.
When looking at yourself in a Mirror, are you seeing a visual echo?
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toxicTom: It was always the big hyped games that breached the customer resistance.
Half-Life 2 brought Steam, Spore and BioShock established online activation (like "can't go without it" Windows XP before).
Steam taught the people that it can be convenient and "hip"- with the updates and cloud saving and achievements and trading card.

Of course every time the DRM screw tightens a little more people are howling and crying. But in the end they still want to play the games. I can't point fingers here, I have Skyrim too.

It's the same with DLC. Games like Dragon Age and Mass Effect lead to a habituation. Formally they're "complete" without the DLC, but every piece adds something to the "world building" and characters and a "normal" version starts to feel incomplete. Doesn't take long and consumers accept really incomplete versions with "insert coin for more" written on it.
At least some of us still have clean hands when it comes to the destruction of all that was good in the game marked. DRM-FREE FOREVER! :-)

Disclaimer (because people love making things into arguments): I have nothing against people who use Steam, or DRM. I don't agree with it, but I am not one of those Steam bashers.


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toxicTom: It's the same like we're getting used to processed food and ever increasing costs in most essential things.
I understand the part about increase in living costs, but what is this processed food you talk of? We have none of that around here. :-)
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FoxySage: That room sounds really awesome. I'd like to have something like that for my books and comics some day. :)
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ddickinson: I'm sure it's not as awesome as you are probably picturing it. It is hardly a giant library with ladders and leather bound books everywhere. :-)

How are you, FoxySage? I have not seen you on the conversation thread for a while.
Get out of my head! That was totally how i imagined it. :p Honestly though, i couldn't imagine someone owning that many books though. My own humble collection would at best fill one, maybe two bookshelves. Excluding my comic book collection. With it the books would probably fill 5-6 shelves.

That's because i haven't been around much. I decided to wait untill gog had somewhat fixed the forum problems. At least the issues concerning the library page. Doing good though. Been watching a new tv series (well, new to me it's a few years old by now).

Also been looking at maybe getting a new mobil phone. My old one broke recently. Can't charge the battery anymore.

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ddickinson: I am of course only playing. Even if Endre was a dirty old man (and I don't think he is), he is definitely the nicest dirty old man I know. :-)
He is also the only one you know, right? ;-)
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FoxySage: Get out of my head! That was totally how i imagined it. :p Honestly though, i couldn't imagine someone owning that many books though. My own humble collection would at best fill one, maybe two bookshelves. Excluding my comic book collection. With it the books would probably fill 5-6 shelves.

That's because i haven't been around much. I decided to wait untill gog had somewhat fixed the forum problems. At least the issues concerning the library page. Doing good though. Been watching a new tv series (well, new to me it's a few years old by now).

Also been looking at maybe getting a new mobil phone. My old one broke recently. Can't charge the battery anymore.
I have hundreds and hundreds of books, mostly history books (I love history). Lots of big volumes and collection on lots of different historical subjects. I also have lots of other books as well, fiction, non-fiction, probably most subject, other than soppy romance novels and pointless celebrity biographies, I can't stand those. I tend to read a lot, so when ever I go past a book shop or a charity shop, I am always having a look for something new to read. I got a lot of the history books from my grandmother, and the quality of the older books are just incredible, both in print quality and the contents.

Well I'm glad to see you back on the forum. It's always nice to chat to the lovely people on here. What kind of new phone are you thinking of getting?

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FoxySage: He is also the only one you know, right? ;-)
Not quite, but he is the only one who admits it. :-)
Post edited February 04, 2015 by ddickinson
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FoxySage: I think the blame lays mostly on the big game companies rather than the customers that we have the dlc culture and micro transactions in modern games.
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ddickinson: But if the customers didn't keep paying for such horrible practices, then the games companies would stop doing it. Take DRM, for example. If all gamers refused to buy games with DRM when it first started, do you really think the companies would have kept using it? Nope, we would have our games back. But because people keep throwing money at these bad practices, the companies keep doing it.
I said most of the blame, not all. ;-)

As for drm i think it's more related to people liking the easiness of digital backup instead of having games laying around in physical boxes taking up space. If gog had existed before Steam i think GoG would be the leading company for digital distribution. That's my theory anyway. Could be wrong. *shrugs*
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Just when you thought you didn't have enough DRM.

http://www.slashgear.com/keurig-2-0-pod-drm-will-lock-out-unofficial-coffee-pods-03319137/
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budejovice: Just when you thought you didn't have enough DRM.

http://www.slashgear.com/keurig-2-0-pod-drm-will-lock-out-unofficial-coffee-pods-03319137/
I remember reading something about that last year. It's just silly. Hopefully people won't buy it. If they do, and the company deems it a success, who knows what else DRM will spread to.
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FoxySage: [snip]
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ddickinson: I have hundreds and hundreds of books, mostly history books (I love history). Lots of big volumes and collection on lots of different historical subjects. I also have lots of other books as well, fiction, non-fiction, probably most subject, other than soppy romance novels and pointless celebrity biographies, I can't stand those. I tend to read a lot, so when ever I go past a book shop or a charity shop, I am always having a look for something new to read. I got a lot of the history books from my grandmother, and the quality of the older books are just incredible, both in print quality and the contents.
Oh wow. That is a lot. I think at best i own maybe around 40-50? Maybe less... Mostly fantasy books. But also a lot of history books (mainly ancient greece/rome/egypt because that was what i found interesting as a kid), but also old geography books and some psychology books. I also have a lot of 3.5 D&D source books. I love reading about fictional settings and worlds and see how the author(s) built it up. :)

Oh, yeah. I do have some old Agatha Christie novels too that i got from my mother as a kid.

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ddickinson: Well I'm glad to see you back on the forum. It's always nice to chat to the lovely people on here. What kind of new phone are you thinking of getting?
Don't know. Something NOT Apple-ish. Probably Samsung. I like Android phones. Works quite well.

To be honest, i know very little about smartphones and what is good. My old phone was just an old normal phone and the one before that was an old Nokia brick. :P
Post edited February 04, 2015 by FoxySage
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moonshineshadow: It is really good that avatars are back to normal. I hate these changes since I tend to look at the avatars when reading peoples posts. Yesterday was horrible :D
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EndreWhiteMane: There, happy now? :-)
I know you are not here at the moment, but yes quite happy now :D *big hug*
Ah bit besides the point of the ongoing conversation,
but has Dan Abnett written any Gaunt's Ghosts novels after he finished "Salvations Reach"?
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Vnlr: Ah bit besides the point of the ongoing conversation,
but has Dan Abnett written any Gaunt's Ghosts novels after he finished "Salvations Reach"?
Wikipedia says that a new one called the Warmaster is set to come out in June of this year.
Lovely! I really liked all the previous books in the series...the powerfull up-close-in-the-face fight scene descriptions combined with the wittines of the characters makes for a great read in my opinion.

I'll finish my Nelson Demille marathon in the meantime, thanks for the info! ;)
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Vnlr: Lovely! I really liked all the previous books in the series...the powerfull up-close-in-the-face fight scene descriptions combined with the wittines of the characters makes for a great read in my opinion.

I'll finish my Nelson Demille marathon in the meantime, thanks for the info! ;)
Not a problem, happy to be of assistance. =)