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Stilton: Thanks for that :-)
The first time I played Deus Ex was on the heels of System Shock 2 and Deus Ex couldn't hold a candle to SS2. It never did click for me, and I always found it a struggle to make much progress in the game. I went back to it a few years ago (maybe 5? maybe more?) and made it a bit further along (but never very far) and it never worked for me. I don't know if I was wanting to sneak, but hadn't developed my character enough to do so? Or wanting to shoot, and it was always a struggle. Maybe I needed to progress a little further along but I never had much desire to do so, despite REALLY wanting to experience the story (I know some of crazy stuff it works in and always wanted to check that out).

Oddly enough (and I'm sure I'll have to turn in my "Gamer Card" for saying this) Human Revolution is, for me, one of the few "modern remakes of a classic" that I feel is better than the source material. I had a blast playing this on my console. The story wasn't that great, but everything about it felt much smoother, tangible and fun than I remember Deus Ex being. I also remember liking Invisible War more than I thought I should as well, as I remember that one getting PANNED at the time of its release.
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ElTerprise: Well it's still annoying as hell....now that problem too well...
And you're new spelling of kompleyn looks awesome :P
Heh... it almost looks like "Klonopin" ... (which sounds good right now... but I couldn't. I'm 5.5 months free from that cursed drug.)
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Stilton: Doing good. The downloads are trundling along nicely and I got a chunk of housework done, so I'm fairly happy. I've been playing Plants vs Zombies which usually makes me smile.
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ElTerprise: Glad to hear that. Should continue downloading the games as well at some point....:)
Hm...never played that as of yet although i got it on the house for Origin....it's Tower-defense right?
That's right. Its simplicity and daftness make it a pleasure. It feels like a kid's game, but who cares when its this much fun :-)
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Stilton: Thanks for that :-)
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Ixamyakxim: The first time I played Deus Ex was on the heels of System Shock 2 and Deus Ex couldn't hold a candle to SS2. It never did click for me, and I always found it a struggle to make much progress in the game. I went back to it a few years ago (maybe 5? maybe more?) and made it a bit further along (but never very far) and it never worked for me. I don't know if I was wanting to sneak, but hadn't developed my character enough to do so? Or wanting to shoot, and it was always a struggle. Maybe I needed to progress a little further along but I never had much desire to do so, despite REALLY wanting to experience the story (I know some of crazy stuff it works in and always wanted to check that out).

Oddly enough (and I'm sure I'll have to turn in my "Gamer Card" for saying this) Human Revolution is, for me, one of the few "modern remakes of a classic" that I feel is better than the source material. I had a blast playing this on my console. The story wasn't that great, but everything about it felt much smoother, tangible and fun than I remember Deus Ex being. I also remember liking Invisible War more than I thought I should as well, as I remember that one getting PANNED at the time of its release.
I think I'd feel much the same way you did. More than anything it seems to take itself far too seriously, which might have been OK back when it came out, but now it makes it seem plain irritating. As a landmark it might mean something to those who experienced it first time around, but I think today, for me, it would have too much of a 'has been' feel. Plus I find it ugly and cliched, from what I've seen. Thanks for your experience - I think its convinced me to steer clear.
Post edited October 14, 2015 by Stilton
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AgentBirdnest: Heh... it almost looks like "Klonopin" ... (which sounds good right now... but I couldn't. I'm 5.5 months free from that cursed drug.)
Just googled that O.O.....

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Stilton: That's right. Its simplicity and daftness make it a pleasure. It feels like a kid's game, but who cares when its this much fun :-)
Well i might give it a try at some point but TD is not a genre i usually like that much :)
But you're right - who cares. Same with the Lego games from Traveller's Tales :)
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AgentBirdnest: Heh... it almost looks like "Klonopin" ... (which sounds good right now... but I couldn't. I'm 5.5 months free from that cursed drug.)
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ElTerprise: Just googled that O.O.....

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Stilton: That's right. Its simplicity and daftness make it a pleasure. It feels like a kid's game, but who cares when its this much fun :-)
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ElTerprise: Well i might give it a try at some point but TD is not a genre i usually like that much :)
But you're right - who cares. Same with the Lego games from Traveller's Tales :)
The Lego games make me laugh. I play them on the Wii with my daughter and we laugh most of the time.
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Stilton: The Lego games make me laugh. I play them on the Wii with my daughter and we laugh most of the time.
They are great...played nearly all of them and i really enjoyed them - especially in Co-op :D
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Ixamyakxim: Oddly enough (and I'm sure I'll have to turn in my "Gamer Card" for saying this) Human Revolution is, for me, one of the few "modern remakes of a classic" that I feel is better than the source material. I had a blast playing this on my console. The story wasn't that great, but everything about it felt much smoother, tangible and fun than I remember Deus Ex being. I also remember liking Invisible War more than I thought I should as well, as I remember that one getting PANNED at the time of its release.
I don't think it's too odd. It is a fantastic game. Smoother is a great way to put it. Smoother combat, smoother movement (hehehe ^^), smoother graphics, smoother experience overall. I still liked the original game more though; it was just so "big", with more freedom and more story.
Invisible War still gets panned pretty decently today. I understand why people don't like it. It made a lot of big changes, most of which were to make it work on XBox, as I understand. I still love it though, because there is one thing that didn't change - the freedom.
All three games have the same type of freedom. If you run into a locked door, you can pick the lock, hack a nearby computer to open it, find a key, talk someone into giving you the code, or just blow up the door with a grenade. Or, just ignore the door and find something else to do. This type of freedom is what makes Deus Ex "Deus Ex" to me, and is why I love all three games.
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Stilton: The Lego games make me laugh. I play them on the Wii with my daughter and we laugh most of the time.
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ElTerprise: They are great...played nearly all of them and i really enjoyed them - especially in Co-op :D
Even when the characters move they're funny. The Batman franchise is supposed to be dark and serious, but seeing Lego versions running around can be hilarious. They're very cleverly done with loads of detail and quotes from the source material.
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Stilton: Plus I find it ugly and cliched, from what I've seen.
It does have an "X-Files" sort of feel to it, in the evil shadow government / corporate conspiracy way. And (while I love the Dark Knight!) it does do the absurd, growling "We're totally serious and dangerous men in bat and clown costumes and this is real. Like, really real." I wanted to like it (hence why I restarted it a few times at various points in my "gaming life" but something about the gameplay never quite worked for me. Whether this is because my character was still too "young" or the game just had a cumbersome early game I'm not sure but it was enough of a turn off to keep me from ever moving along in the game.

I've always been curious about my perspective, because even back on release the game was much loved and I was almost exactly the demographic it was going for (like I said, if I remember correctly I had just been playing through SS2). To this day I wonder where this game went wrong for me.
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Stilton: I think its convinced me to steer clear.
I could have sworn... no... steer clear of Deus Ex? *brain explodes* +__+

Well, no game is for everyone of course ;-)
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AgentBirdnest: I don't think it's too odd. It is a fantastic game. Smoother is a great way to put it. Smoother combat, smoother movement (hehehe ^^), smoother graphics, smoother experience overall. I still liked the original game more though; it was just so "big", with more freedom and more story.
Ah thanks, this is good for me to hear! I thought HR might have elicited similar opinions to Invisible War from fans of the first game. Glad to know that even lovers of Deus Ex found HR to be a nice addition to the series.
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Stilton: Even when the characters move they're funny. The Batman franchise is supposed to be dark and serious, but seeing Lego versions running around can be hilarious. They're very cleverly done with loads of detail and quotes from the source material.
Indeed... Although i also really like the talky versions i think the pure slapstick Lego game without voice acting were better at delivering that fun :)


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AgentBirdnest: I could have sworn... no... steer clear of Deus Ex? *brain explodes* +__+

Well, no game is for everyone of course ;-)
*sigh* *prepares the ARK to restore Agent's brain* ;)
Here Stilton.

A nice and short review video of Deus Ex.
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Stilton: I think its convinced me to steer clear.
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AgentBirdnest: I could have sworn... no... steer clear of Deus Ex? *brain explodes* +__+

Well, no game is for everyone of course ;-)
It puzzles me a bit too. A cult game, on most best ever lists - and I'd rather play Plants vs Zombies.

Before I discovered GOG I played racing games almost exclusively, single player and online in leagues, but I don't think I've ever heard mention of racing games here. Horses for course, obviously.

Ixamyakxim has given me the kind of feedback it feels like I'd give someone else new to the game. It just doesn't click with me for some reason.
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Ixamyakxim: Ah thanks, this is good for me to hear! I thought HR might have elicited similar opinions to Invisible War from fans of the first game. Glad to know that even lovers of Deus Ex found HR to be a nice addition to the series.
I rarely hear anything bad about HR, except for the out-of-place boss fights. For players who like to go stealth or kill-free, it totally messes up their playstyle. I think this was improved in the director's cut though. Otherwise, I hear plenty of people saying it is nearly as good or even better than the original, and I'd agree (with "nearly" ;-))