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GreenDamsel: Wow that's a grim point of view.^^
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EBToriginal: You grow up and live in the southeast United states for the first twenty something years of your life and see with what sort of glasses you view the world. Humanity is a virus with shoes.
We just hear a lot of bad things from the bible belt. The most disturbing one (to me) being that religion actually influences politics quite heavily. We split religion and state apart, like, 500 years ago.
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EBToriginal: You grow up and live in the southeast United states for the first twenty something years of your life and see with what sort of glasses you view the world. Humanity is a virus with shoes.
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GreenDamsel: We just hear a lot of bad things from the bible belt. The most disturbing one (to me) being that religion actually influences politics quite heavily. We split religion and state apart, like, 500 years ago.
Yeah the nutty side of the political sphere.
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GreenDamsel: Wow that's a grim point of view.^^
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EBToriginal: You grow up and live in the southeast United states for the first twenty something years of your life and see with what sort of glasses you view the world. Humanity is a virus with shoes.
And it does depend a lot on which part of the country you're in. It's a BIG place.
I was born and raised in the Midwest and my view is much more positive than some others.
Some states are as big as, and almost as different as, some smaller countries.
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EBToriginal: You grow up and live in the southeast United states for the first twenty something years of your life and see with what sort of glasses you view the world. Humanity is a virus with shoes.
Bill Hicks...have to say, I've got mixed feelings regarding him.

A big part of me wishes he was still around. The other part is glad he didn't have to see it all, because he'd probably be foaming at the mouth with rage every frigging day.
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GreenDamsel: We just hear a lot of bad things from the bible belt. The most disturbing one (to me) being that religion actually influences politics quite heavily. We split religion and state apart, like, 500 years ago.
That's interesting, especially considering that it'll probably take another hundred years at least to actually get that kind of separation here across the board.
Post edited June 18, 2015 by CarrionCrow
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EBToriginal: You grow up and live in the southeast United states for the first twenty something years of your life and see with what sort of glasses you view the world. Humanity is a virus with shoes.
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EndreWhiteMane: And it does depend a lot on which part of the country you're in. It's a BIG place.
I was born and raised in the Midwest and my view is much more positive than some others.
Some states are as big as, and almost as different as, some smaller countries.
Last year I was visiting San Francisco and was like "Hey maybe I can drive to LA it's really close!".
Ha Ha. I'd be in Italy If I'd drive that much here.
To slightly alter a classic phrase, laws are like locks, the only person they affect are the honest folk.

I'm all for stringent laws for firearms and things of that nature, but just as hard drugs are technically illegal everywhere, you need only know the right person or the right location to obtain them. Here in California both are coming over the border in droves and making their way across the country, they're obviously not being brought into the system, and the laws will never be a factor to most of their purchasers.

That's not to say that stricter laws won't have an effect, they sure would and any positive change is one worth seeking, but (in my opinion) they would really only have a noticeable effect on "heat of the moment" situations. Gangs, those morons running around in the woods playing Rambo on the weekends, etc, the ones who really need to be de-armed won't be affected because they're usually not arming themselves at Wally World or Dick's Sporting Goods.

At least that's my rather cynical viewpoint.

Oh, and as someone who grew up in the dastardly evil bible belt and now lives in California, the difference in culture, education, beliefs and everyday society etc isn't nearly as big as it's advertised.
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EBToriginal: You grow up and live in the southeast United states for the first twenty something years of your life and see with what sort of glasses you view the world. Humanity is a virus with shoes.
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CarrionCrow: Bill Hicks...have to say, I've got mixed feelings regarding him.

A big part of me wishes he was still around. The other part is glad he didn't have to see it all, because he'd probably be foaming at the mouth with rage every frigging day.
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GreenDamsel: We just hear a lot of bad things from the bible belt. The most disturbing one (to me) being that religion actually influences politics quite heavily. We split religion and state apart, like, 500 years ago.
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CarrionCrow: That's interesting, especially considering that it'll probably take another hundred years at least to actually get that kind of separation here across the board.
Pretty much all his Iraq War commentary from 1991 works very well even today.

I went to high school in the early 2000s and my high school (North Buncombe, in Weaverville NC to name and shame) still allowed the white students to wear klan themed clothing, as an example.
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NoNewTaleToTell: To slightly alter a classic phrase, laws are like locks, the only person they affect are the honest folk.

I'm all for stringent laws for firearms and things of that nature, but just as hard drugs are technically illegal everywhere, you need only know the right person or the right location to obtain them. Here in California both are coming over the border in droves and making their way across the country, they're obviously not being brought into the system, and the laws will never be a factor to most of their purchasers.

That's not to say that stricter laws won't have an effect, they sure would and any positive change is one worth seeking, but (in my opinion) they would really only have a noticeable effect on "heat of the moment" situations. Gangs, those morons running around in the woods playing Rambo on the weekends, etc, the ones who really need to be de-armed won't be affected because they're usually not arming themselves at Wally World or Dick's Sporting Goods.

At least that's my rather cynical viewpoint.

Oh, and as someone who grew up in the dastardly evil bible belt and now lives in California, the difference in culture, education, beliefs and everyday society etc isn't nearly as big as it's advertised.
So you'd rather go the way with better education?
No Tuesday release, no Thursday release, nothing but 'dress up Barbie kits' for Witcher 3.
I'm really starting to feel they are actively trying to run the 'old guard' out of this place. :/


Edit: That's Endre's complaint of the day. ;)
Post edited June 18, 2015 by EndreWhiteMane
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EndreWhiteMane: No Tuesday release, no Thursday release, nothing but 'dress up Barbie kits' for Witcher 3.
I'm really starting to feel they are actively trying to run the 'old guard' out of this place. :/

Edit: That's Endre's complaint of the day. ;)
What do you mean by Tuesday Release and Thursday release?
All the DLC came out on wednesday IIRC
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CarrionCrow: Bill Hicks...have to say, I've got mixed feelings regarding him.

A big part of me wishes he was still around. The other part is glad he didn't have to see it all, because he'd probably be foaming at the mouth with rage every frigging day.
That's interesting, especially considering that it'll probably take another hundred years at least to actually get that kind of separation here across the board.
Hmm...correct me if i'm wrong but wasn't seperation of church and state one of the main principles at the founding of the United States? I think i heard some quote from Jefferson on that matter...

But even then - atleast imho - Germany could go further down the route of laicism.....
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EndreWhiteMane: And it does depend a lot on which part of the country you're in. It's a BIG place.
I was born and raised in the Midwest and my view is much more positive than some others.
Some states are as big as, and almost as different as, some smaller countries.
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GreenDamsel: Last year I was visiting San Francisco and was like "Hey maybe I can drive to LA it's really close!".
Ha Ha. I'd be in Italy If I'd drive that much here.
A few years ago I drove 3000 miles in less than three days and in the middle of that had a six hour shift at work.
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EndreWhiteMane: No Tuesday release, no Thursday release, nothing but 'dress up Barbie kits' for Witcher 3.
I'm really starting to feel they are actively trying to run the 'old guard' out of this place. :/


Edit: That's Endre's complaint of the day. ;)
We i guess the hope that we all forget of their usual release schedules during the sale....
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GreenDamsel: What do you mean by Tuesday Release and Thursday release?
All the DLC came out on wednesday IIRC
Usually every Tuesday and every Thursday GOG releases games.
Post edited June 18, 2015 by ElTerprise
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NoNewTaleToTell: To slightly alter a classic phrase, laws are like locks, the only person they affect are the honest folk.

I'm all for stringent laws for firearms and things of that nature, but just as hard drugs are technically illegal everywhere, you need only know the right person or the right location to obtain them. Here in California both are coming over the border in droves and making their way across the country, they're obviously not being brought into the system, and the laws will never be a factor to most of their purchasers.

That's not to say that stricter laws won't have an effect, they sure would and any positive change is one worth seeking, but (in my opinion) they would really only have a noticeable effect on "heat of the moment" situations. Gangs, those morons running around in the woods playing Rambo on the weekends, etc, the ones who really need to be de-armed won't be affected because they're usually not arming themselves at Wally World or Dick's Sporting Goods.

At least that's my rather cynical viewpoint.

Oh, and as someone who grew up in the dastardly evil bible belt and now lives in California, the difference in culture, education, beliefs and everyday society etc isn't nearly as big as it's advertised.
Yeah I moved to the Bay a few years ago, and it's closer to the South East than most southerners would like to know. And at least on the basis of my roommate who went to school in both texas and California, both have fuck awful schools.
I won't even enter the discussion on education, it makes me too angry.
I will say that my daughter is a director of education at a nearby university.
And, that I feel that if anything could be a 'cure to all this worlds ills' it would be education.
Enough said.