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IAmSinistar: Yes it is. I just finished it the other night myself. Nice to see actors from the new Who alongside ones from the Pegg/Frost trilogy of films. A good mystery story, and proof that Chibnall has become a much better writer (or at least has found the right genre).

Oh, and good morning you lot. :)
THAT, caused a thousand memes in tumblr.

Everybody half expected Alec Hardy to pull out a sonic screwdriver at any moment.
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LaPtiteBete: Tsss... Remake series, instead of buying them. Shame on you, 'Murica !!
I've had a look on your video, but without sound ; so I didn't get it...
The joke here is his extremely thick scottish accent unchecked. Which he never let show during his time as the Doctor.

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adaliabooks: Yeah, I hear the remake was a bit rubbish though (as these things usually are)
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IAmSinistar: ref. Life On Mars

I only recently discovered that House Of Cards is a remake of sorts, so I had to pick up the British original of that. Hoping to watch it soon.
The office remake is supposed to be good.

But the IT crowd is apparently shite.
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j0ekerr: The office remake is supposed to be good.

But the IT crowd is apparently shite.
Haven't really watched either, I can't bear American remakes of British comedies. American comedies are generally predictable and quite unfunny, and it's even worse to watch them butcher good source material in the process.

The dramas can fare better in translation, but still typically lack the depth and nuance of the originals. I stick with the British versions whenever feasible.
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IAmSinistar: Haven't really watched either, I can't bear American remakes of British comedies. American comedies are generally predictable and quite unfunny, and it's even worse to watch them butcher good source material in the process.

The dramas can fare better in translation, but still typically lack the depth and nuance of the originals. I stick with the British versions whenever feasible.
Considering how US network executives, seem to think that americans will NOT watch anything that is not set in America, even if it's recorded in the same language (and there is ample proof to the contrary), I'm surprised that no one has ever attempted to do a remake of upstairs downstairs. That makes me think that maybe not all network execs are clinically braindead.

Then I remember that Firefly and My name is Earl got cancelled and I realize the truth.
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j0ekerr: The office remake is supposed to be good.

But the IT crowd is apparently shite.
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IAmSinistar: Haven't really watched either, I can't bear American remakes of British comedies. American comedies are generally predictable and quite unfunny, and it's even worse to watch them butcher good source material in the process.
We do the same thing with Japanese horror films, why would British comedies be any different!? :P
Hello everybody! Hope things are going well.

I've watched both the British and American versions of The Office. The American series went on way too long, but I actually enjoyed the first three seasons of it more than the British one.

I didn't like The IT Crowd in the first place, so I'm not going to bother at all with the American version.
(I have a man-crush on Chris O'Dowd, though :-D)
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adaliabooks: It's just an acclaimed British police drama about a murder in a small village. It's very good.
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IAmSinistar: Yes it is. I just finished it the other night myself. Nice to see actors from the new Who alongside ones from the Pegg/Frost trilogy of films. A good mystery story, and proof that Chibnall has become a much better writer (or at least has found the right genre).

Oh, and good morning you lot. :)
It's a fantastic cast. Very well written. Depressing as hell though :/
I suppose it would be considering the subject matter.

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j0ekerr: The office remake is supposed to be good.

But the IT crowd is apparently shite.
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IAmSinistar: Haven't really watched either, I can't bear American remakes of British comedies. American comedies are generally predictable and quite unfunny, and it's even worse to watch them butcher good source material in the process.

The dramas can fare better in translation, but still typically lack the depth and nuance of the originals. I stick with the British versions whenever feasible.
Can't say I've ever watched the American remakes of things, just going on what people said.
I don't mind American comedies (or TV in general), but they're very different to British TV.
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j0ekerr: I'm surprised that no one has ever attempted to do a remake of upstairs downstairs.
You can bet the execs looked at that (and even moreso Downton Abbey) and wracked their walnut-sized brains on how to bring it over here ("we'll use WASP-y One Percenters and illegal immigrants!"). But it really only works when set in the British class system, which just doesn't carry over.

And yes, it's quite insulting that they think a show has to be set in the States and spoken in American accents to succeed. Of course, given how they typically dumb-down the shows, they probably also believe the American audience is as stupid as they themselves and that the original will make everyone feel ignorant. Plus there's all those chances to replace references to Walker's crisps with ones to Lay's potato chips.
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tinyE: We do the same thing with Japanese horror films, why would British comedies be any different!? :P
Another good point. Poor Godzilla (Gojira) too.
Post edited January 14, 2015 by IAmSinistar
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tinyE: We do the same thing with Japanese horror films, why would British comedies be any different!? :P
Well aside from the language barrier, there's the fact that japanese acting seems to involve enough quantites of ham to give a hundred people triple coronary bypass surgery.

They make William Shatner seem subdued by comparison.

During my most weeabo days, I tried to watch some japanese "doramas". I found that they were unwatchable unless you were properly "seasoned", and watched them in company to MST3K'fy the hell out of them.

They're good for drinking games though. Everybody is wasted before the commercial breaks.
Post edited January 14, 2015 by j0ekerr
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j0ekerr: I'm surprised that no one has ever attempted to do a remake of upstairs downstairs.
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IAmSinistar: You can bet the execs looked at that (and even moreso Downton Abbey) and wracked their walnut-sized brains on how to bring it over here ("we'll use WASP-y One Percenters and illegal immigrants!"). But it really only works when set in the British class system, which just doesn't carry over.

And yes, it's quite insulting that they think a show has to be set in the States and spoken in American accents to succeed. Of course, given how they typically dumb-down the shows, they probably also believe the American audience is as stupid as they themselves and that the original will make everyone feel ignorant. Plus there's all those chances to replace references to Walker's crisps with ones to Lay's potato chips.
All they need to do is spend some time on the internet (particularly on Pinterest) and they would realise Americans love British TV (Doctor Who, Sherlock and I'm sure countless others)

I just wonder when we'll start seeing the reverse, a British remake of Friends or Scrubs.
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adaliabooks: I just wonder when we'll start seeing the reverse, a British remake of Friends or Scrubs.
Those would make it more likely that I would actually watch those shows. :)
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tinyE: We do the same thing with Japanese horror films, why would British comedies be any different!? :P
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j0ekerr: Well aside from the language barrier, there's the fact that japanese acting seems to involve enough quantites of ham to give a hundred people triple coronary bypass surgery.

They make William Shatner seem subdued by comparison.
Well the cheesy monster movies sure, but I'm talking about the original Eye, Grudge, Ring (forgive me for not using the proper Japanese titles). I think the acting is fine in those.
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adaliabooks: I just wonder when we'll start seeing the reverse, a British remake of Friends or Scrubs.
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IAmSinistar: Those would make it more likely that I would actually watch those shows. :)
Yes and no. I'm thinking that if they ever make them, they'd be so changed as to be unrecognizable and have their own personality, not a shot by shot remake with local actors. After all, Brits get a lot of US TV so everybody in the UK has already seen friends, what interest do they have in watching the same thing again.

That was the exact problem that suffered a local remake of married with children. I remember watching an episode in disbelief as I saw a shot-by-shot remake in which everything was left exactly the same as the american version which I had already seen. What's more, they didn't even bother to translate the social and cultural differences. Keeping the same house that in here, would be considered a small manor for a successful man.

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tinyE: Well the cheesy monster movies sure, but I'm talking about the original Eye, Grudge, Ring (forgive me for not using the proper Japanese titles). I think the acting is fine in those.
Actually the cheesy movies tolerate that cholesterol laden acting better, because you can laugh your ass off to it.

I present Exhibit A
Post edited January 14, 2015 by j0ekerr
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tinyE: Well the cheesy monster movies sure, but I'm talking about the original Eye, Grudge, Ring (forgive me for not using the proper Japanese titles). I think the acting is fine in those.
Agreed, the Japanese originals are far superior. I didn't even bother with some of the American remakes (notably The Eye and One Missed Call).


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j0ekerr: Yes and no. I'm thinking that if they ever make them, they'd be so changed as to be unrecognizable and have their own personality, not a shot by shot remake with local actors. After all, Brits get a lot of US TV so everybody in the UK has already seen friends, what interest do they have in watching the same thing again.
That's part of my point. I have no desire to watch the American originals of those shows, so a British version would be (hopefully) improved enough to be worth checking out.
A ninety dollar game on GOG. Color me shocked! :/
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EndreWhiteMane: A ninety dollar game on GOG. Color me shocked! :/
Oh brave new gaming world, that hath such prices in 't.