OneFiercePuppy: SSH takes a few hours to break in a best-case scenario for the attacker. But the realistic worst-case scenario for the attacker is only a few days, because the people paranoid enough to use really good passphrases are outliers.
WPA doesn't fold like WEP in a matter of seconds, but most users are susceptible to a rainbow table of some sort. If you think adding a number here or there in place of a letter makes your password s00p3r 53curE, then you don't know enough about entropy just yet.

In general, if you are banking online, your credentials will not be stolen by cracking open a tunnel and then brute forcing some hashy mess. They'll be stolen by hijacking your browser session, probably coming through an add-on or plug-in of some sort. Wireless security is pretty good. It's not the machine that will fail you. You will fail you.

[url= That's a generic "you" up there, not a you "you". I do know a lot more about networking and information security than the average bear; I'm also a bit more paranoid about it. If you genuinely worry about the security of your information, then do these things, in order of easy to hard: avoid wireless networking; take the time to create good passwords and passphrases, and keep them written down somewhere easy for you to get to but hard to associate with your online identity; use anonymized routing; use stateless virtual machines for high-risk information.][/url]

j0ekerr: As an outsider, and thus wont to have a skewed viewpoint, the overall impression I get is that the US health service overmedicates its users. Everybody seems to be on drugs most of the time. To the point that soon I expect to see breakfast cereals with marshmallows AND prozac.

I have little trust towards a trade that evolved mainly by: "Take two of these, and if you're still alive tomorrow, we'll try to figure out why."

moonshineshadow: Ah I think you misunderstood the discussion :-) I don't think that alcohol is worse than medics or cigarettes and if people enjoy some that is fine by me. It is just that I have a chronic disease, so I have no choice about the medics and for one thing I want to avoid the small risk drinking alcohol would have and for another I don't want to stress my body more than it already is. So no alcohol, no cigarettes, mostly healthy food :-)
What I just consider worse than medics were the situations during school, where a lot of school mates made it their "hobby" to get completly drunk every weekend so that they could not even remember what happened. But luckily that time is long gone.

moonshineshadow: I am not so sure about the age :D Just because my parents got interested in games does not mean they are young :D

AgentBirdnest: I agree. I certainly don't think alcohol is worse than pills, or anything else. I didn't mean to judge, and I apologize if I made it sound that way. Personally, I don't drink because I just don't enjoy it. Most people do seem to enjoy it, and I think that's great. It just isn't for me.

I take pills everyday for some long-term problems. I realize that my medication is not good for my health, and is likely much worse for me than drinking a beer or some wine everyday. But I can't let my problems go untreated, so I take pills everyday, and they really help.
(Just to be clear, all my pills were legally prescribed by a licensed physician. I don't want people to think I am doing illegal stuff.)

I think the discussion from earlier was just about our personal preferences. We meant no criticism or judgment.

genkicolleen: J0ekerr! My how you've changed! O_o

genkicolleen: I'm coming in to the conversation late, but I take medication every day, too. Mostly vitamins and minerals, which help to keep the worst of my fibromyalgia pain at bay. I don't know whether I have trouble absorbing these things in general, whether it's because of my restricted diet, or a combination of the two. As for prescribed meds, among others, I take medication for anxiety and depression. There is a stigma attached to antidepressants, and I really don't understand it. You're not less of a person because you can't "deal" with stress and depression. It's no different than being diabetic or having high blood pressure. It's an imbalance that can -- and should -- be treated, and yet there is this perception that you're less of a person because you need these things!

Why is that? At least some of the people reading this are now thinking that I'm less of a person because I take these meds, and I don't care. I am who I am, and that hasn't changed since you found out that I take *gasp* antidepressants! I am still the ever-optimistic you knew before you read this post. I need medications to keep my body running properly, and there should be no shame in that, and so I say it loud and proud. I take medications because I need them, and my health would suffer terribly if I didn't have them. I know because I came close to dying three years ago (no, not because of depression), but those health woes are a whole different story. I've been doing much better since starting some new meds and vitamins, so no worries there :)

The above was directed at no one, I was just thinking about it because of something a "friend" once said to me about depression meds. There are many reasons we are no longer friends, and this is just one of them.

As for recreational drugs and alcohol, I do neither. I can't stand the taste of alcohol, nor the effect it has on me, and I detest the feeling of being drugged (which is why I balk at any prescribed drug that has the effect.) My dentist offered me nitrous (aka laughing gas) when I was last having work done, and though the work took FOUR hours, I declined, 'cause I absolutely can't stand the feeling.

To sum up I don't think that anyone should be judged based upon the meds that they need to take. As for the other drugs and alcohol/cigarettes, as long as they're not hurting themselves and/or others, it's their own choice, and I can respect that :)

LaPtiteBete: Oh ! I hope you don't write that because of what I said earlier :(
Not only I misunderstand, but also I make myself misunderstood... bloody language barriers. I shouldn't take part in such complicated debates, and should rather stick to GOG sales and Viking wild ideas :D lol
I have nothing against long-time medication either... I was just surprised that many peeps here seem to need one... I won't take the liberty of judging anyone :-\

CarrionCrow: Haven't seen a single person in this thread who I'd say is going to give you a ton of grief rather than working to communicate with you better.
Push comes to shove, you can always be pelted with a styrofoam Nerf bat or something....-laughs- ;)

j0ekerr: This forum is a place of love and tolerance, filled with honesty, kindness, loyalty, generosity, laughter, friendship, and people who make Princess Celestia look like an evil dictator and Molestia awesome.

My little GOG; Gaming is magic.

CarrionCrow: Wouldn't even BEGIN to go that far....
If that were the case, I'd have to leave the thread all together. -laughs-
But, by the looks of it, we don't have assholes here, and that'll do. =)

j0ekerr: Diabeetus!

And she IS an evil dictator. Just look what she did to poor Molestia. And all she wanted was to have fun and enjoy a good plot.

EDIT: Even more DIABEETUS

EndreWhiteMane: Hello all, remember me?

CarrionCrow: .
CarrionCrow: Nope. not even a little bit. ;)

CarrionCrow: All you have to do now is hope that everyone who saw it mentioned previously suffer memory loss. -laughs-