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EndreWhiteMane: Mornin' Crow, and everyone! ;)
Some pretty heavy conversation this morning, and yes I often find things inside myself that surprise the crap out of me. ;-)
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moonshineshadow: *welcome hug* Hope you are doing fine today?
* hug back * OK so far, you're having a nice 'laid back' Sunday I hope. ;)
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EndreWhiteMane: Mornin' Crow, and everyone! ;)
Some pretty heavy conversation this morning, and yes I often find things inside myself that surprise the crap out of me. ;-)
Morning Endre.

I wouldn't really call it heavy. I read on, but all I really got from one side was this.

Crow, Dragonshard?

I hate you.
Post edited March 29, 2015 by j0ekerr
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moonshineshadow: *welcome hug* Hope you are doing fine today?
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EndreWhiteMane: * hug back * OK so far, you're having a nice 'laid back' Sunday I hope. ;)
Yep. Of course there is the usual cleaning but aside from that, I am playing the game dd made me randomly choose yesterday :D
And I really need to tell our owl about it when she is back here, it is perfect for her world ruling plan ;-)
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FearfulSymmetry: I think it would be much sadder to have children if you don't want them, that's miserable for everyone. Besides, as Crow has pointed out, just because you don't have children doesn't mean you can't have friends or other family.
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moonshineshadow: I agree with this. There is no use in having children if you don't want any. This will just make everyone unhappy and that is not how children should grow up, feeling unwanted.

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zenwan: Hi everyone, whatever time of the day or night it is for you where you are.
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moonshineshadow: *welcome wave* Hope you are having a nice Sunday!
Thank you, I am indeed, although I would be happier if you sent over all your rain. The summer heat is starting already, and I am not fond of the loooong hot dry dusty summers, nor is my garden. My trees will soon be longing for rain again, never enough here.
I still haven't had a chance to post a mountain for you (jumping thread, sorry!) I'll get there, I hope...
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EndreWhiteMane: * hug back * OK so far, you're having a nice 'laid back' Sunday I hope. ;)
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moonshineshadow: Yep. Of course there is the usual cleaning but aside from that, I am playing the game dd made me randomly choose yesterday :D
And I really need to tell our owl about it when she is back here, it is perfect for her world ruling plan ;-)
What game did you pick?
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EndreWhiteMane: Took a deep look inside myself and discovered that:

1.) I agree that those who who don't want children shouldn't have them.
It partially makes up for the a-holes who have 12 just to collect bigger welfare checks.

2.) I'm the BatMan.
Do you want to know how I got these scars?

*Brings out scar collection*
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CarrionCrow: snip

Also, adoption is a completely viable option. People want to think they're special, that they just need to make little copies of themselves, so they can live on in a way after they're corpses, and then they start spawning the little creatures like there's no tomorrow.
But there are already plenty of kids around because a lot of shitty, shitty adults who should have been forcibly sterilized got together and pumped out children by the countryful.
Those kids get second billing because people can't get the same ego boost raising those kids as they can by spawning their own.

-shakes head- So many people are so godsdamned stupid. They shouldn't breed. Ever. And yet they do.

(Apologies, Zenwan. Kinda went off on a tangent or three, slammed all my scattered thoughts into one post, then replied it over to you.
You're not on the hot seat for my contempt/disgust/sour stomach at it all. Promise. =) )
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Jwan4321: This can become a touchy topic. I will say Eugenics is still a real thing that exists even now, and still a major factor in different parts of the world. And it seeps into peoples brains and makes them start to think everyone not like them is a total waste of space and parts.

But back to adoption.

It is the idea that the "undesirables" are the ones siring all these kids make adoption a icky idea to a lot of people. I am more partial to the nurture side of the debate, as I have several friends who now are successful both financially and socially, that are kind, compassionate and loving towards their families and friends, and take responsibility for themselves and their actions, whose birth parents, well, didn't. But their adoptive parents gave them a chance, and a good home. Not to imply a religious good home or something akin to that, though some did. Just a good, safe, welcoming and supportive home.

Granted, some others are right jerks, and that might just be because they were spoiled rotten or something else happened.
No surprise there. That's humanity for you, in large part. So many people want to feel like they're better than.

I'm better than you because I'm the right gender. I'm better than you because my skin's the right color. I'm better than you because I'm from the right country, the right people, the right god, the right amount of money.

Course, it's all nothing but fucking bullshit from one end to the other, pathetic people propping up their ultimately worthless lives, lying to themselves and banding together to labor under a destructive mass delusion, all for the sake of enhanced self-esteem.

Would agree with you there. People have a better chance when there's an actual groundwork in place that isn't utterly toxic.
The person might still go sideways, even with a good environment, but their odds are a hell of a lot better than being stuck with people who shouldn't be trusted with so much as a half-wilted houseplant to care for.
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moonshineshadow: *welcome wave* Hope you are having a nice Sunday!
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zenwan: Thank you, I am indeed, although I would be happier if you sent over all your rain. The summer heat is starting already, and I am not fond of the loooong hot dry dusty summers, nor is my garden. My trees will soon be longing for rain again, never enough here.
I still haven't had a chance to post a mountain for you (jumping thread, sorry!) I'll get there, I hope...
I wish I could sent the rain over to you. But it seems my weather influencing power is too weak. I tried sending some sun to Hyper during the week, but it did not work at all :D
And don't worry, you still have more than two weeks left for a mountain screen, I am curious to see what you'll choose :-)

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moonshineshadow: Yep. Of course there is the usual cleaning but aside from that, I am playing the game dd made me randomly choose yesterday :D
And I really need to tell our owl about it when she is back here, it is perfect for her world ruling plan ;-)
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EndreWhiteMane: What game did you pick?
I am not sure picking is the right word for random choosing :D The outcome was Evil Genius :P
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EndreWhiteMane: Mornin' Crow, and everyone! ;)
Some pretty heavy conversation this morning, and yes I often find things inside myself that surprise the crap out of me. ;-)
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j0ekerr: Morning Endre.

I wouldn't really call it heavy. I read on, but all I really got from one side was this.

Crow, Dragonshard?

I hate you.
I love you too, Joker Rabbit.

And on that touching note, you grab the Tic Tacs, I'll grab the turkey baster....hahahahahahahaha....
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zenwan: Thank you, I am indeed, although I would be happier if you sent over all your rain. The summer heat is starting already, and I am not fond of the loooong hot dry dusty summers, nor is my garden. My trees will soon be longing for rain again, never enough here.
I still haven't had a chance to post a mountain for you (jumping thread, sorry!) I'll get there, I hope...
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moonshineshadow: I wish I could sent the rain over to you. But it seems my weather influencing power is too weak. I tried sending some sun to Hyper during the week, but it did not work at all :D
And don't worry, you still have more than two weeks left for a mountain screen, I am curious to see what you'll choose :-)

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EndreWhiteMane: What game did you pick?
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moonshineshadow: I am not sure picking is the right word for random choosing :D The outcome was Evil Genius :P
Hate to be a downer, but if you're looking for improved pace over Anvil of Dawn, Evil Genius might not be the best of choices. That game is frigging glacial at times.
Post edited March 29, 2015 by CarrionCrow
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zenwan: Good point! It's easy to see that children are not always there when you need their help, that's the way of the world. Friends or other family are often far more reliable.

Besides, children take up gaming time, right, Crow?
<evil grin>

To each his own, some people want children, others don't, nothing wrong with that. Of course some people who want them shouldn't have them at all, but that's another story.

Hi everyone, whatever time of the day or night it is for you where you are.

Editing out a duplicate - now you see it, now you don't...

sigh

Very true, giving a loving home to unwanted children is always a good thing.
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CarrionCrow: I think in my case, it's a matter where just the thought alone of reproducing makes me nauseated.

And yes, I know, my parents had to do that. I get the whole perpetuation of the species thing.
(Bringing this up because it was mentioned a bit ago.)
Doesn't stop me from telling my mother she's a dumbass for doing it. -laughs-

Also, adoption is a completely viable option. People want to think they're special, that they just need to make little copies of themselves, so they can live on in a way after they're corpses, and then they start spawning the little creatures like there's no tomorrow.
But there are already plenty of kids around because a lot of shitty, shitty adults who should have been forcibly sterilized got together and pumped out children by the countryful.
Those kids get second billing because people can't get the same ego boost raising those kids as they can by spawning their own.

-shakes head- So many people are so godsdamned stupid. They shouldn't breed. Ever. And yet they do.

(Apologies, Zenwan. Kinda went off on a tangent or three, slammed all my scattered thoughts into one post, then replied it over to you.
You're not on the hot seat for my contempt/disgust/sour stomach at it all. Promise. =) )
Absolutely no apologies necessary, I couldn't agree more. There are many situations when I really believe that forced sterilization can only be seen as a good thing. My heart goes out to the children caught up in bad stuff not of their making - and credit to those who rescue them, out of sheer loving kindness.

Btw, apropos the discussion you and Moon were having this morning, I understand completely. I often sit here talking to myself as though there were two of me, and one of me sometimes writes things that the other one of me is stunned at.

I threw in a few +1's for your posts, to let you know that all was well, at least from my side. :-)

Sometimes it's good to let the fingers say what they will. There are very few judgemental people here, from what I've seen, and those who are, don't matter. Think of them as zombies, you don't even see them then.


Editing out a few typos, sometimes the fingers get too carried away. ;-)
Post edited March 29, 2015 by zenwan
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moonshineshadow: I am not sure picking is the right word for random choosing :D The outcome was Evil Genius :P
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CarrionCrow: Hate to be a downer, but if you're looking for improved pace over Anvil of Dawn, Evil Genius might not be the best of choices. That game is frigging glacial at times.
Urgh. Not good. But perhaps that is the perfect solution. Playing both of them at the same time, so if it is waiting time on of of it, I can switch to the other :P
Hello again. Any recommendations for linux compatible games? After i tested ubuntu and installed basic application i wanted it's now time for some games. I already downloaded FTL because and started the download of PoE (which will probably takes ages ^^)....

BTW: first post from Ubuntu :)
Post edited March 29, 2015 by ElTerprise
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CarrionCrow: Hate to be a downer, but if you're looking for improved pace over Anvil of Dawn, Evil Genius might not be the best of choices. That game is frigging glacial at times.
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moonshineshadow: Urgh. Not good. But perhaps that is the perfect solution. Playing both of them at the same time, so if it is waiting time on of of it, I can switch to the other :P
Wouldn't recommend that either...the way Evil Genius goes, you gain money by placing henchmen that you've spent time and resource training on the world map.
The more you place, the higher the risk that they can be taken out, at least in part.
As you finish off world objectives, the danger level will also rise.
At a high enough level, enemy agents will appear on the world map. If you don't manually hide every person you have out at the time, they'll be taken out.
Then you have to spend more time and more resources to regain your losses.

It is very much a gradual thing with a mechanic built in to screw you over when you drop your guard.
Morning people!
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l0rdtr3k: Morning people!
Morning :).