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I’ve just been reading through the comments on “The Piñata Madness” official topic and, as I haven’t found any figurative raised eyebrows, please allow me the audacity of opening a new topic to discuss what I believe to be a concerning issue.

I can understand many people would consider “a good deal” to pay 3$ USD for a chance to win a game of their liking and a sure payback in the form of a game they might not like. I do think it’s a good deal as well, after all, it’s a small investment with chances to get you more than your money’s worth and the certainty of getting a random game which usually costs more than 3$ anyway. It’s a win-win situation, right?

Well, even with the certainty of getting an outcome, the outcome is still uncertain, therefore I’d argue this practice is still gambling. I don’t pretend to state that gambling is bad per se, it’s legal in many countries and I don’t think it should be demonised without a proper debate (that’s why I’m writing this anyway), I don’t think either that gambling on a few digital piñatas will turn everyone into gamblers or people with a gambling addiction but I do consider it to be a shady practice which is meant to encourage one of the worst sides of our hobby.

What I’ve read on the comments I mentioned before were many people stating that they did buy more than one Piñata, most of them did get some games they liked but it seems that they also got many they weren’t especially looking forward to playing. I’m certain GOG is not doing this out of charity and I am also certain they considered the odds of people getting hooked up on that feeling of chance and a possible better outcome.

My point is, it really doesn’t matter if you are getting the games you want to play or if you’re getting games you’ll never play (bear in mind there’s no possibility of selecting Piñatas for Mac or Linux), this has nothing to do with games, valuing games, promoting gaming culture, entreating people or educating them (you know, good things games can do), it’s only about getting people to keep clicking that tiny dopamine shot that is the “Buy for 3$” button as many times as possible. I was hoping GOG would never do these sort of things, I was hoping it would keep selling games honestly and never becoming a marketplace for CS:GO skins and stuff like that, but I’m afraid it’s on its path of becoming so and that makes me feel utterly disappointed.

What do you guys think? Is GOG doomed? No, seriously, about the Piñata stuff, this seems to be an interesting debate worth discussing.
I think GOG is going to realize it was a stupid idea and not do it again, end of story.

We'll file it away with the time they gave us signatures. Boy was that a big hit! :P
As long as you can buy games separately I don't think this is unethical.
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Same argument was raised the last time they did a Piñata sale, and yet here we are with another one. I think that tells us gOg's position on the matter.
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HereForTheBeer: Same argument was raised the last time they did a Piñata sale, and yet here we are with another one. I think that tells us gOg's position on the matter.
WAIT WAIT WAIT

THEY DID THIS BEFORE!?

Where the hell was I? XD
I think quality is a factor to take into account in this case, most if not all the games listed in the other thread are well made games, worth way more than 2 bucks and people who took the risk seem pretty happy in general.

If this was like the other sites which give crappy, made-in-5-minutes games which are worth nothing, Troy would be burning at this time.
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tinyE: WAIT WAIT WAIT

THEY DID THIS BEFORE!?

Where the hell was I? XD
There were at least two times they did this sort of thing, the "Mutator Promo" in 2014 and the "Indie Piñata" in 2015.
Post edited August 14, 2017 by InfraSuperman
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HereForTheBeer: Same argument was raised the last time they did a Piñata sale, and yet here we are with another one. I think that tells us gOg's position on the matter.
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tinyE: WAIT WAIT WAIT

THEY DID THIS BEFORE!?

Where the hell was I? XD
This is the second specifically Piñata sale but about the fourth or fifth sale where you could buy random games..

I seriously doubt A) there is any legal issue in doing it and B) Gog will stop throwing them in to the mix every now and again.
senility sucks
I got $2.26 in my gog wallet at the moment. And I'm not going to lie... the temptation is there.

Do as I do: Whenever you feel the urge to try your luck on another pinata, keep repeating:

YOU MIGHT END UP WITH A TELLTALE "GAME"!

YOU MIGHT END UP WITH A TELLTALE "GAME"!

YOU MIGHT END UP WITH A TELLTALE "GAME"!

YOU MIGHT END UP WITH A TELLTALE "GAME"!

YOU MIGHT END UP WITH A TELLTALE "GAME"!

YOU MIGHT END UP WITH A TELLTALE "GAME"!
Don't forget the Pot 'o Gold promo.
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contra_cultura: No, seriously, about the Piñata stuff, this seems to be an interesting debate worth discussing.
But is it really? It seems like more and more now we have to have this long debate analyzing whatever GOG does simply because "this isn't the GOG I want". But GOG isn't about what certain individual people want. It never was. It's a business that caters to what the vast majority of their users want in an effort to make money. Personally I'm for all for the free market, if nobody is buying them then it was obviously a mistake, but if people are then GOG is making the right choice. At the end of the day, people are responsible for their own actions. Self restraint is something everyone should learn. Anyone is free to ignore and not buy anything they don't agree with, and instead buy into what they do agree with. Otherwise let the free market decide.

So let's not try to psycho analyze everything... they aren't you best friend, they aren't the saviors of PC gaming while Steam is the bogyman. it's just game site that sells games, simple as that. If GOG could introduce game skins tomorrow and make millions they probably would. That's as far as my relationship goes with GOG, if I want to buy something I will, and if I want to take a chance on a mystery item I will. Being disappointed because GOG is doing something you don't have to partake in is a bit idiotic, and it is a bit selfish in the sense that why should your dislike for, for instance game skins, keep someone who may want to buy game skins on GOG from being able to do so.

Just my two cents...
Best description I ever heard of gambling went like this.

Stand outside in the desert, pick up a really hot rock that's been laying in the sun all day, and shove it up your ass.

After you have removed it and gotten over the indescribably agonizing pain, grab another really hot rock that's been laying out in the sun all day, and as you're jamming this one up your ass think to yourself, "Maybe this one will feel better."
It certainly has the capacity to become, as you said, a little $3 dopamine shot button. That's where one's own impulse control is generally assumed to arrive and keep things cool. There are people who will keep buying them for a "fix", but that doesn't make the Pinatas a morally bad thing just because of those people. Other people will buy one, two, or even a few simply because its a fun little thing, as stated in the FAQ. GOG has a lot of quality games, it's kind of neat to see which ones may fall into your lap for you to check out that you may not have approached otherwise. If you're going into it buying a bunch of pinatas trying to get Shadow Warrior 2 to drop, that's really the wrong approach.
Post edited August 15, 2017 by Papyrcat
im bemused by gog bringing the gambling 'pinata' sale type back due to all the moaning last time, when they seem to have abandoned the more popular seasonal mega sale with accrued points to earn specified games at certain tiers. at least you knew what you were going to get after buying and the sale gimmick was a bit of fun with daily check ins to earn points. more or less you could pretty easily win at least one freebie that way

anywho, my two cents