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Encore, encore!

The Bard's Tale Trilogy remastered is coming soon, DRM-free to GOG.com.
Fine-tune your lutes, adventurers! 'Tis time to sing again the tales of Skara Brae. The place where evil took hold, nearly extinguishing all life, all hope. That very same place where the legend of the six heroes began, only this time with high-res graphics that maintain the originals' tone, audio for spells and attacks, plus certain quality of life improvements like an automap and tooltip popups, among others.
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morrowslant: Ok. What is this about outsourcing?
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tomimt: Maybe he's confusing BT4 to the Remastered Original Trilogy? This is the first I've heard that inXile was outsourcing BT4 and I've been following its development pretty closely.
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tomimt: Maybe he's confusing BT4 to the Remastered Original Trilogy? This is the first I've heard that inXile was outsourcing BT4 and I've been following its development pretty closely.
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Tarhiel: Me too, I was surprised to never heard about it.
I agree with both of you. Outsourcing Bards Tale 4 was something I'd not heard of, so.......Wondering what Crosmando meant by that statement/whether or not Crosmando is internet trolling.
Post edited August 08, 2018 by morrowslant
I'm hoping they do this for Wasteland too.
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GreasyDogMeat: I'm hoping they do this for Wasteland too.
"Wasteland Classic" is pretty much "Wasteland Remastered". They added (rather ugly) filters, music, got the paragraphs into the game, etc, etc etc

Also, is this a complete reworking of the original games? Because if the "source" is the DOS ports then I'd stay away from them because they were pretty bad + super buggy, although there were no completely bug free TBT ports, especially 3.
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Not really... this remaster of the Bard's Tale trilogy includes an automap (makes it worth it alone) and 3d graphics overhaul.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yet-4WotfT8&list=PLEVXlIyu8aig_zzauUrGwfPyxNgPRuY0j
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i_hope_you_rot: System Requirements

Minimum:
Processor: Intel Core2 Quad Q9300 / AMD Athlon 64 X2 4200+ / Intel Core i5-2500K or higher if using integrated Intel GPU
Memory: 4 GB RAM
Graphics: Graphics card with DX10 (shader model 4.0) capabilities
DirectX: Version 11
Storage: 1 GB available space
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mangamuscle: How bloated have we become! The original used to run with 64kb from floppy drives with a 6502 8bit processor running at less than 2 mhz.
To be fair, a computer that meets these specs now costs less than a Commodore 64 with a 1541 disk drive and 1702 monitor did in the '80s!
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The DOS version of BT1 felt reasonable to me. Sure, there were a few bugs, but they didn't ruin the experience.

BT2 DOS is a bit worse than BT1 in this respect, the biggest problem being that enemies can't hurt you for a good portion of the game. (With that said, that's probably better than what I've read about the Commodore 64 version, where you apparently can't hit enemies with physical attacks, making quite a few classes useless offensively.)

BT3's DOS version, on the other hand, is bad; so bad, in fact, that somebody took the effort to make a patch that fixes some of the more serious bugs (like dragons not breathing fire). The Apple 2 and Commodore 64 ports are better, though not bug-free and not without the drawback of load times and mandatory disk switches.
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Crosmando: From playing the beta:

Basically the game is completely casualized and beyond it being a first-person, party-based RPG, there is almost nothing about it like classic Bard's Tale games.

The devs basically have completely ignored taking inspiration from the original BTs or even from classic Western blobbers like Might & Magic and Wizardry and have designed it like it's a casual MMO or ARPG (and the devs have been pretty open about this, you'll see in interviews they mention games like Hearthstone as inspiration but never Classic CRPGs). InXile made a really bad decision by outsourcing it to another studio.
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morrowslant: Ok. What is this about outsourcing?
BT4 is being made by InXile New Orleans, a new studio, not the main InXile in California (the guys who made Wasteland 2). I believe they got government funds or something for setting up a studio in New Orleans.
Post edited August 09, 2018 by Crosmando
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morrowslant: Ok. What is this about outsourcing?
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Crosmando: BT4 is being made by InXile New Orleans, a new studio, not the main InXile in California (the guys who made Wasteland 2). I believe they got government funds or something for setting up a studio in New Orleans.
That isn't outsourcing, it still is a part of the same studio, but only at a different location.
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Crosmando: BT4 is being made by InXile New Orleans, a new studio, not the main InXile in California (the guys who made Wasteland 2). I believe they got government funds or something for setting up a studio in New Orleans.
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tomimt: That isn't outsourcing, it still is a part of the same studio, but only at a different location.
Depends on your definition of outsourcing, the BT4 kickstarter made pretty clear that the game was going to be made by the same people as WL2, which is just not true. But yeah you're "right" that it's still operating under the name InXile. Also the fact that BT4 is being made by a new team far away from the main office (and presumably with some degree of autonomy) could definetely explain why BT4 has taken such a dramatic departure in design.
Post edited August 09, 2018 by Crosmando
Apparently there IS going to be a remaster of Wasteland 1 from the same studio working on this Bard's Tale trilogy remaster!

Planned release is early 2019.

https://steamcommunity.com/games/240760/announcements/detail/1653265320450249852

"The signature item of this bundle is Wasteland - 30th Anniversary Edition, a remastering of the first game that will feature updated graphics (which maintain the spirit of the original pixel art), run natively in current operating systems and at all current resolutions, and offer other quality of life features. This work is being done by Krome Studios, the team currently behind a similar remastering of The Bard’s Tale Trilogy."

I'm assuming it will come to GOG too. As someone who loves the Fallout series (if you hadn't guess from my name) and Wasteland 2 but missed Wasteland 1 and found it a bit too archaic here in 2018 (I did manage to beat the entire Pool of Radiance series decades after release) I'm pretty hyped!

EDIT: Sorry if this was already known Khaleesi... apparently this was announced 2 months ago. What can I say... I've been out of the loop.
Post edited August 09, 2018 by GreasyDogMeat
Glad o hear that the original Wasteland is getting the remaster treatment. I hope they consider moving on to Dragon Wars as well. That was a great game, and deserves a remaster and a modern sequel. It was originally developed as Bard’s Tale IV, but licensing issues forced them to rebrand it.
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Fairfox: i dont mean disk drive was powred by nost. lolz!
Fun fact: The disk drive was, itself, a little computer with its own CPU. (That's why, for many games, including Bard's Tale 3, one can't simply zap the load times in the emulator.)

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Clocknova: Glad o hear that the original Wasteland is getting the remaster treatment. I hope they consider moving on to Dragon Wars as well. That was a great game, and deserves a remaster and a modern sequel. It was originally developed as Bard’s Tale IV, but licensing issues forced them to rebrand it.
Dragon Wars is also very different from the classic Bard's Tale games. Bard's Tale 1-3 are all about dungeon crawling, while Dragon Wars has a much stronger focus on non-dungeon exploration and adventure-game style puzzle solving (though with skills you can learn and use and multiple solutions to many puzzles, including multiple ways to escape Purgatory).

With that said, there's another, lesser known, sequel that could be considered a spiritual successor to the Bard's Tale series: Centauri Alliance. That game, which could be described as Bard's Tale in space, could really use a remaster, considering that the game is rather clunky and buggy. (There's even at least one case where the game is so buggy that I can't tell how the game is *supposed* to work in that situation.)

Edit: One thing I forgot to mention: Centauri Alliance was only released for the Apple 2 and Commodore 64; there is no DOS version of this game. Yet another reason that game could use a remaster.
Post edited August 09, 2018 by dtgreene
I am really looking forward to this this. I played DOS version and thought it a wonderful game.
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Fairfox: i dont mean disk drive was powred by nost. lolz!
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dtgreene: Fun fact: The disk drive was, itself, a little computer with its own CPU. (That's why, for many games, including Bard's Tale 3, one can't simply zap the load times in the emulator.)

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Clocknova: Glad o hear that the original Wasteland is getting the remaster treatment. I hope they consider moving on to Dragon Wars as well. That was a great game, and deserves a remaster and a modern sequel. It was originally developed as Bard’s Tale IV, but licensing issues forced them to rebrand it.
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dtgreene: Dragon Wars is also very different from the classic Bard's Tale games. Bard's Tale 1-3 are all about dungeon crawling, while Dragon Wars has a much stronger focus on non-dungeon exploration and adventure-game style puzzle solving (though with skills you can learn and use and multiple solutions to many puzzles, including multiple ways to escape Purgatory).

With that said, there's another, lesser known, sequel that could be considered a spiritual successor to the Bard's Tale series: Centauri Alliance. That game, which could be described as Bard's Tale in space, could really use a remaster, considering that the game is rather clunky and buggy. (There's even at least one case where the game is so buggy that I can't tell how the game is *supposed* to work in that situation.)
I recently bought a Commodore 64 and a disk drive, and was surprised to find that the DD was both heavier and larger than the computer itself. (The C64 turned out to not work, so I returned it to the store where I got it and am now left with just a working Disk Drive :p)