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Get ready to lead over 100 playable characters through a war-torn world only you can save.
Genre: Action, RPG
Weren't there quite a lot of people pining for this to be confirmed for release on GoG, alongside the other one?
Post edited June 06, 2022 by Swedrami
Yup, the main game was technically never confirmed to be coming to GOG
Thanks for securing this for us GoG! Wishlisted!
Was waiting for the main game. Soon!
It looks pretty good! I wonder if there are good interactions between some of the 100 characters; not to the level of the Tales series or Fire Emblem of course, but some funny, romantic or even rivalry interactions are always welcome.
Suikoden is back!
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GOG.com: Get ready to lead over 100 playable characters through a war-torn world only you can save.
Genre: Action, RPG
another 505 Games release? nice. wish we could get Death Stranding Director's Cut here. No Denuvo on it but perhaps Kojima Prod. is scared of a completely DRM-free release. Or maybe it'll show up in a few years past its March 2022 release date, or after Epic has given it away :P
necroooo, necroooo ;-p

Check out this new feature trailer \o/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sr7BabhafD4


Nothing to shabby me guesses
Very simpatico that they include any "serious" platform for release, including GoG and EGS.

Not sure it will be able to be on par with a real Suikoden because they may still lack the necessary strength on their dev team. However... it surely is the closest we can get to the original Suikoden.

Lets be honest: Eiyuden Chronicle: Rising was kinda the launching pad for something bigger, although by itself a rather mediocre game. Now that they had some more coins to spare the next project is finally more close to the "true scale", so... expectations can be serious.

It could be compared to "Everspace" vs. "Everspace 2"... Chronicles was the Everspace and Hundred Heroes is most likely Everspace 2. Everspace was "barely sufficient" for my quality demand, but Everspace 2.... wooooow... this was the REAL thing with a lot of custom and tactical deep.

Indeed, there is some "real" Suikoden DNA inside, the only question is just "how much they can get out of it".
https:/.../eiyuden.wiki.gg/wiki/Yoshitaka_Murayama
Post edited February 11, 2024 by Xeshra
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Xeshra: Very simpatico that they include any "serious" platform for release, including GoG and EGS.

Not sure it will be able to be on par with a real Suikoden because they may still lack the necessary strength on their dev team. However... it surely is the closest we can get to the original Suikoden.

Lets be honest: Eiyuden Chronicle: Rising was kinda the launching pad for something bigger, although by itself a rather mediocre game. Now that they had some more coins to spare the next project is finally more close to the "true scale", so... expectations can be serious.

It could be compared to "Everspace" vs. "Everspace 2"... Chronicles was the Everspace and Hundred Heroes is most likely Everspace 2. Everspace was "barely sufficient" for my quality demand, but Everspace 2.... wooooow... this was the REAL thing with a lot of custom and tactical deep.

Indeed, there is some "real" Suikoden DNA inside, the only question is just "how much they can get out of it".
https:/.../eiyuden.wiki.gg/wiki/Yoshitaka_Murayama
Suikoden is up for a remaster

steam://openurl/https://cdn.akamai.steamstatic.com/steam/apps/1932640/ss_048c555c11b38ea674492ac9939c1b63bdfd3d3b.1920x1080.jpg?t=1693358971

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1932640/Suikoden_III_HD_Remaster_Gate_Rune_and_Dunan_Unification_Wars/

in honesty, after watching the trailer i'm not so sure anymore. War seems like a stupid mini game and not something i would enjoy. The tactical play outs do look pleasing, guess i'll wait for some reviews before activating purchase mode.

i fear i'm already to spoiled by Triangle Strategy. The skirmishes presented in that game are really top notch
Post edited February 12, 2024 by Zimerius
Either they bring this game to GoG or the can go home with, and i really mean it because those sort of games are rather niche which is generally not a bad place on GoG. Although Triangle Strategy is inside the tactics genre which is not how Suikoden is working, but only fans may understand. Inside the tactics genre... it is hard to push Disgaea away from its throne unless it can offer a awesome story. Graphically it is surely not my thing, pretty blurry and oversaturated which was always a difficult approach for me but it is currently a pretty "hyped" style.. kinda like the womanizer of the toys. There is some better smooth pastel look, for example on The Aliance Alive HD.

The strength of Suikoden was always the simplicity, and graphically it was never a beast, at no time ever.
Post edited February 13, 2024 by Xeshra
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Xeshra: Either they bring this game to GoG or the can go home with, and i really mean it because those sort of games are rather nice which is generally not a bad place on GoG. Although Triangle Strategy is inside the tactics genre which is not how Suikoden is working, but only fans may understand. Inside the tactics genre... it is hard to push Disgaea away from its throne unless it can offer a awesome story. Graphically it is surely not my thing, pretty blurry and oversaturated which was always a difficult approach for me but it is currently a pretty "hyped" style.. kinda like the womanizer of the toys. There is some better smooth pastel look, for example on The Aliance Alive HD.

The strength of Suikoden was always the simplicity, and graphically it was never a beast, at no time ever.
For a rpg geek you really seem to have a weak spot with comprehensive reading. Do you have trouble with English? Or do you tend to ride on 2 horses at once? If that is the case i would suggest to try and keep the overactive mind in check with either physical measures such as breathing exercises or soothing medical means that can range from nature products or real medicine
Those weeds you may consume are a bit of a disaster, i tell you, because it may make you slow and high. But at least you never fail keeping me amused in some weird way.

Apart from this personal stuff, i still do not recommend comparing Suikoden with something like "Triangle Strategy". Because this Square Enix game is rather focused toward bringing us some "hyped" version of Octopath-Traveler cosmetics, paired with a Final Fantasy Tactics-remnant for another success in popularity. I was playing Octopath Traveler II and i tell ya... i stopped playing after 15 min because it was just tasteless, theatrical softy nonsense... or cheesy as you say. Guess it is the "polished" fake of the modern society... with close to no soul. I hope it will stay on Steam and "hype-Switch" forever and become praised for being just as dull as the majority.

Suikoden is different, it can not be compared to a typical tactics-game or "wannabe oldie" on a cool look. I just hope they will stay true to its roots and not screwing it up. I hope Yoshitaka Murayama will critically watch over it in order to maintain the puristic beauty and the very honest direction.
Post edited February 13, 2024 by Xeshra
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Xeshra: Apart from this personal stuff, i still do not recommend comparing Suikoden with something like "Triangle Strategy".
Triangle is closer to Vandal Hearts × FFT/Tactics Ogre × Octopath.

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Xeshra: Because this Square Enix game is rather focused toward bringing us some "hyped" version of Octopath-Traveler cosmetics,...
I, on the other hand, appreciate its 2.5D/3D style and aesthetics because they come closest to those revered titles of old.

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Xeshra: I was playing Octopath Traveler II and I tell you... I stopped playing after 15 minutes because it was just tasteless, theatrical fluff... or cheesy, as you say. Guess it is the "polished" fake of modern society... with close to no soul.
If you have to rely solely on subtitles/audio in your language, and with a lack of awareness of the themes and topics present in the original, your judgment can be considered fair. Many hot-button topics such as xenophobia, treatment of foreigners in Japanese society, incest, child abuse, self-isolation, suicide, physical and mental impairment, and more are discussed even in Visual Novels. Unfortunately, much of this depth is lost in the Westernization process, reducing these works of art (that is to say games in general) to mere sexual content or gameplay mechanics, and visuals.

However, with a good knowledge of the language and about social issues, politics, ideologies, etc., you can appreciate that stories and characters are deeper and more profound than some altered and adapted translation, made to meet perceived Western sensibilities by individuals who may compromise the integrity of the original script by altering the tone of characters and what they are actually saying.

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Westernization should be limited to providing faithful translations to other languages. However, often leads people, based on their political views and attitudes, to criticize the original work as misogynistic, racist, sexist, etc., without understanding why these elements are included and what they represent, when they start comparing changes. Furthermore, nuances like wordplay with Kanji and cultural references are frequently lost in translation. Some translators are using their work to teach the audience their own views about politics, gender, and other issues.

Instead, if all that exists is a translation, exposure to the original may spark curiosity and encourage players to learn this language which enables them to gain knowledge about Japanese society, issues, politics, history, and ways of thinking. Similarly, games like Through the Darkest of Times or Attentat provide an opportunity to engage with historical events and perspectives rather than engaging in superficial debates based on modern-day sensitivities.

The most stupid thing I lately read was:
Changes often focus on "alcohol, politics or religion," Froget adds, while cultural reference points also differ.

"When there are people dressed in black boots and big leather coats, in Europe that could bring to mind a Nazi uniform," he says.

It's people like him getting commissioned to work on such projects, and I can't fathom how stupid people like him think the European audience must be to make a connection between black boots and leather coats and Nazi uniforms. Or, more generally, how much lack of education and intellectual ability they think people playing such games must have to say such things. Who are they, and what are their qualifications that allow them to patronize and offer such rather simplistic and patronizing views of adult, and potentially highly educated people who happen to be playing games? What's more, why do they think people consuming games are not able to learn about topics without being told where to look, which information to disregard because it contains dangerous material (or a slippery slope into right-wing/left-wing territory and being lost forever for the good cause (also something I saw such individuals write on gaming websites)), and how to think?

If this trend is to be reversed, the first line of action is to start learning a language and playing original games, books, and other media suffering from westernization. This doesn't only go for Japanese but also any games whose original language is not English. It also opens up the world and grants access to meet and understand people living in other parts of the world than The West™ (which usually means US and UK, and to a certain extent also Europe).
Post edited February 13, 2024 by Mori_Yuki