Zimerius: I do see why you have such a hard time grasping certain nuances. For example, for someone who's promoting data over feelings, you seem to jump quite fast to conclusions about what kind of grouping I belong too and how my responses are in said group. Or are you just into the gathering of knowledge and not so much the appliance of said knowledge in a sensible manner?
Again, if you fail to understand why certain aspects of anime fall into the same group of behaviour the world decided to ban out over these past couple of years, then i don't think we have much ground for discussion. I mean, if you can't even acknowledge my side of the story without falling into wordings such as dumb and stupid I can only wonder about if your aim is to discuss or to go to war? Personally i'm up for discussion atm but wars, for now, i'll keep restricted between my CPU and me thank you very much.
On another note, it is pretty hard to make a hard fist against something that is already illegal. I mean, you should expect from any reasonable man that he's willing to put rapists to death if he had his way right? Therefore why should your point belong in this discussion?
The point is, your whole argument doesn't even hold water unless you're a moralist. Whether you say one thing doesn't mean it encompass any form of truth. Your entire notion is based on your feeling for the matter. Hence, why I'd rather rely on data than blurt something out simply because I deem it so. This isn't a matter of a war in the discussion but rather me calling you out that if you feel it is, so then you should have data before making such claim.
It is made illegal by moralist and people that push things on feelings and not facts. Hence, why you can do more harm with good intention than one might realize. There are plenty of examples in the real world where certain people get protected by using fake moralistic views than anything that would be factually based.
You would normally say yes to that in any circumstance, but what you could do in the long run look at what made that behaviour to prevent it from occurring in the first place. Killing him won't automatically solve the larger problem.
Like I said, what if loli content would stop people from acting out? Wouldn't your eventual banning worsen the problem in the long run? Because moralist never think about the factual nature of things, other than what they themselves would like to see, and what they themselves expect to see from that result. They love deluding themselves to think that their answer is always the right and just one.
For instance, on the subject of real life that I just mention, I have shown people time and time again the facts behind them and still they believe in their own bubbled notion of my gut feelings matter more than your factual data. This even accounts for your style of "Think of the Children" When you confront them with what I just said about grooming gangs, they love overlooking that fact while still crying about fiction. Because moralist don't actual believe about addressing the issue and are just in it for their own ego and feel good moment.
My point falls under the same notion that moralistic people themselves created a culture these days that looks away at actual crimes based on certain criteria, but hold others to a higher standard for convenience’s sake. For instance, there is more outcry for the protection of fictional characters than there ever is for the real deal. Even you should know that the majority of real life crimes get ignored when it suits a certain agenda, it is mostly the moralist that screams the loudest that tend to end up being the biggest sexual predator.
Even my whole point is a more valid one, because my arguments are based on the real world events while yours are based on a moralistic view of a "What If" idea.
Like I said, unless you have data that proves otherwise, it's just your notion of fake alarmism.
It is nice to see you finally found some sense. Well said though! Couldn't have said it any better, not even in my native language! It seems you could do with a pinch more of objectivism but, i'll answer you this one. Killing the rapist is indeed symptom fighting, like taking pain killer. It may not resolve the true problem, but it will prevent you from taking on a too strained of an attitude. Meanwhile saving money on jailers and other process costs. Personal opinion, of course. Now, if you would, you could take the last say in this argument since I don't see any reason to continue.
