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Any fans of Agatha Christie’s famous Belgian detective, Hercule Poirot? Because if you are one of them we have some excellent news…

Agatha Christie - Hercule Poirot: The London Case is coming soon to GOG!

In this point & click detective-mystery adventure from Microids we will once again take on the role of the famous Hercule Poirot, as he joins forces with Lloyd’s of London to ensure the transportation, protection, and sale of a valuable painting of Mary Magdalene. But it wouldn’t be a detective-mystery if everything went according to plan, would it? We will find out soon enough on GOG!
I still can't get used to seeing a thin Poirot with less sophisticated speech pattern.
He felt more like a haughty Frenchman than a mild mannered and charming Belgian.
Thank you GOG for this addition to the Agatha Christie series, much appreciated.
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RedRagan: I still can't get used to seeing a thin Poirot with less sophisticated speech pattern.
He felt more like a haughty Frenchman than a mild mannered and charming Belgian.
LOL((;--))
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RedRagan: I still can't get used to seeing a thin Poirot with less sophisticated speech pattern.
He felt more like a haughty Frenchman than a mild mannered and charming Belgian.
Quote from "Agatha Christie on the creation of Poirot":

"He [Poirot] was to be a tidy little man, because, as Christie herself observed, his creator was the opposite.
Standing at no more than 5 feet 4 inches tall, and possessing a waxed moustache, he was immaculately groomed and dressed in the finest clothing.
More importantly he must be extremely brainy, and possess little grey cells of the mind"

Also look at Miss Marple.
I think we all know (and love?) Margaret Rutherford's interpretion best - yet, Agatha Christie didn't like her.
Because her Miss Marple (in the books) was described as "an attractive, thin, old lady, with a twinkle in her blue eyes".
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RedRagan: I still can't get used to seeing a thin Poirot with less sophisticated speech pattern.
He felt more like a haughty Frenchman than a mild mannered and charming Belgian.
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BreOl72: Quote from "Agatha Christie on the creation of Poirot":

"He [Poirot] was to be a tidy little man, because, as Christie herself observed, his creator was the opposite.
Standing at no more than 5 feet 4 inches tall, and possessing a waxed moustache, he was immaculately groomed and dressed in the finest clothing.
More importantly he must be extremely brainy, and possess little grey cells of the mind"

Also look at Miss Marple.
I think we all know (and love?) Margaret Rutherford's interpretion best - yet, Agatha Christie didn't like her.
Because her Miss Marple (in the books) was described as "an attractive, thin, old lady, with a twinkle in her blue eyes".
Have you seen the BBC adaptations from ~ 30 years ago, featuring the peerless Joan Hickson in the Miss Marple role? She absolutely nails it.
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RedRagan: I still can't get used to seeing a thin Poirot with less sophisticated speech pattern.
He felt more like a haughty Frenchman than a mild mannered and charming Belgian.
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BreOl72: Quote from "Agatha Christie on the creation of Poirot":

"He [Poirot] was to be a tidy little man, because, as Christie herself observed, his creator was the opposite.
Standing at no more than 5 feet 4 inches tall, and possessing a waxed moustache, he was immaculately groomed and dressed in the finest clothing.
More importantly he must be extremely brainy, and possess little grey cells of the mind"

Also look at Miss Marple.
I think we all know (and love?) Margaret Rutherford's interpretion best - yet, Agatha Christie didn't like her.
Because her Miss Marple (in the books) was described as "an attractive, thin, old lady, with a twinkle in her blue eyes".
Is your reply supposed to show me that I'm wrong? Your quote pretty much shows that yes, this game made Mr. Poirot look bad. He's a kind and polite man, good with his words and knew how to push people to say the truth without agitating them. He's the opposite of Holmes, who was more brazen and straightforward.

Also I use both the book version of Poirot and the long running TV series version that actually perfected his image. Hercule Poirot is what a good gentleman need to be. This is why I'm still enraged that the newest reprints of Poirot books got censored to make it more "Politically correct" I was baffled, Those books are clean!
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BreOl72: Quote from "Agatha Christie on the creation of Poirot":

"He [Poirot] was to be a tidy little man, because, as Christie herself observed, his creator was the opposite.
Standing at no more than 5 feet 4 inches tall, and possessing a waxed moustache, he was immaculately groomed and dressed in the finest clothing.
More importantly he must be extremely brainy, and possess little grey cells of the mind"

Also look at Miss Marple.
I think we all know (and love?) Margaret Rutherford's interpretion best - yet, Agatha Christie didn't like her.
Because her Miss Marple (in the books) was described as "an attractive, thin, old lady, with a twinkle in her blue eyes".
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RedRagan: Is your reply supposed to show me that I'm wrong?
Nope.
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RedRagan: This is why I'm still enraged that the newest reprints of Poirot books got censored to make it more "Politically correct" I was baffled, Those books are clean!
Here is my opinion about censorship of books, which I can only hope will not be censored or deleted.

Censorship undermines the fundamental human right to freedom of expression. A right enshrined in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. It says: “Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience and expression.” When literature is censored, individuals are denied the opportunity to express themselves and to explore new ideas and perspectives. This lead to a narrow-minded society, where only a limited range of opinions and viewpoints are considered acceptable.

Their (Penguin and other publishing companies) desire to censor written material, or ban books, may stem from a desire to protect individuals from so-called “harmful” content. In effect they are taking away an individuals agency and the ability to make their own decisions about what they choose to read, they are infantilizing readers and denying them the opportunity to grow from exposure to challenging or controversial material.

There is also the chilling effect this form of censorship has on creativity and innovation. Authors are forced to self-censor and avoid certain topics or themes, they are discouraged to write books containing characters not of their own race or skin color, they are prevented from pushing boundaries or exploring new topics and different perspectives in their writing. As a result this will lead to a stagnation of literary culture, where only safe and predictable works will be published, and secondly it will backfire on companies now promoting safe and clean, unoffending, boring, republications of literary classics, mutilated by a select few 'sensitivity-readers' and supporters.

Finally, censorship can be arbitrary and subjective, and can be used to suppress dissenting voices. Those in positions of power may use censorship as a tool to maintain the status quo, while those pressure groups, hellbent to have books, theatrical plays, TV and movie productions censored, rewritten or adapted, are suppressing alternative viewpoints or perspectives. This is particularly harmful in higher education, where this cancer is spreading, and free speech is only good for one side, and open arguments are discouraged, so as not to offend anyone!

In conclusion, Penguin and everyone rewriting history, books or anything at all, undermines fundamental human rights, infantilizes individuals, suppresses artistic creativity, and stifles dissenting voices. As such, I reject all forms of literary censorship and instead promote free expression, open dialogue, and diversity of perspectives and ideas. That said, as long as the original books are available as a physical or preserved digital copies, those companies can censor, mutilate and republish all they want to. When no one is going to buy it, they will eventually have to stop and reconsider, or go bust. As long as it isn't in their power to remove access to originals, I don't worry too much for the future of open-minded, albeit controversial material being published.

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Always remember: keep an open mind and don't ever let anyone dictate what and how you have to think, what to read, which words you use, what you are watching and who you have to like or dislike, or what you say and how you have to say it. If, on the other hand, someone likes and supports this, there are countries those individuals would certainly love to live in. It must be easy to have people thinking for you and dictating what material is deemed save to read. If you wish to support people, do it in your daily life, be supportive and open minded, and take people for who they are, if they are good and friendly, you be the same, that's what makes a real difference. ;-)
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RedRagan: This is why I'm still enraged that the newest reprints of Poirot books got censored to make it more "Politically correct" I was baffled, Those books are clean!
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Mori_Yuki: Here is my opinion about censorship of books, which I can only hope will not be censored or deleted.

Censorship undermines the fundamental human right to freedom of expression. A right enshrined in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. It says: “Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience and expression.” When literature is censored, individuals are denied the opportunity to express themselves and to explore new ideas and perspectives. This lead to a narrow-minded society, where only a limited range of opinions and viewpoints are considered acceptable.

Their (Penguin and other publishing companies) desire to censor written material, or ban books, may stem from a desire to protect individuals from so-called “harmful” content. In effect they are taking away an individuals agency and the ability to make their own decisions about what they choose to read, they are infantilizing readers and denying them the opportunity to grow from exposure to challenging or controversial material.

There is also the chilling effect this form of censorship has on creativity and innovation. Authors are forced to self-censor and avoid certain topics or themes, they are discouraged to write books containing characters not of their own race or skin color, they are prevented from pushing boundaries or exploring new topics and different perspectives in their writing. As a result this will lead to a stagnation of literary culture, where only safe and predictable works will be published, and secondly it will backfire on companies now promoting safe and clean, unoffending, boring, republications of literary classics, mutilated by a select few 'sensitivity-readers' and supporters.

Finally, censorship can be arbitrary and subjective, and can be used to suppress dissenting voices. Those in positions of power may use censorship as a tool to maintain the status quo, while those pressure groups, hellbent to have books, theatrical plays, TV and movie productions censored, rewritten or adapted, are suppressing alternative viewpoints or perspectives. This is particularly harmful in higher education, where this cancer is spreading, and free speech is only good for one side, and open arguments are discouraged, so as not to offend anyone!

In conclusion, Penguin and everyone rewriting history, books or anything at all, undermines fundamental human rights, infantilizes individuals, suppresses artistic creativity, and stifles dissenting voices. As such, I reject all forms of literary censorship and instead promote free expression, open dialogue, and diversity of perspectives and ideas. That said, as long as the original books are available as a physical or preserved digital copies, those companies can censor, mutilate and republish all they want to. When no one is going to buy it, they will eventually have to stop and reconsider, or go bust. As long as it isn't in their power to remove access to originals, I don't worry too much for the future of open-minded, albeit controversial material being published.

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Always remember: keep an open mind and don't ever let anyone dictate what and how you have to think, what to read, which words you use, what you are watching and who you have to like or dislike, or what you say and how you have to say it. If, on the other hand, someone likes and supports this, there are countries those individuals would certainly love to live in. It must be easy to have people thinking for you and dictating what material is deemed save to read. If you wish to support people, do it in your daily life, be supportive and open minded, and take people for who they are, if they are good and friendly, you be the same, that's what makes a real difference. ;-)
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Would be cool to see the 90s Agatha Christie games here as well.
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RedRagan: This is why I'm still enraged that the newest reprints of Poirot books got censored to make it more "Politically correct" I was baffled, Those books are clean!
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Mori_Yuki: Here is my opinion about censorship of books, which I can only hope will not be censored or deleted.

Censorship undermines the fundamental human right to freedom of expression. A right enshrined in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. It says: “Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience and expression.” When literature is censored, individuals are denied the opportunity to express themselves and to explore new ideas and perspectives. This lead to a narrow-minded society, where only a limited range of opinions and viewpoints are considered acceptable.

Their (Penguin and other publishing companies) desire to censor written material, or ban books, may stem from a desire to protect individuals from so-called “harmful” content. In effect they are taking away an individuals agency and the ability to make their own decisions about what they choose to read, they are infantilizing readers and denying them the opportunity to grow from exposure to challenging or controversial material.

There is also the chilling effect this form of censorship has on creativity and innovation. Authors are forced to self-censor and avoid certain topics or themes, they are discouraged to write books containing characters not of their own race or skin color, they are prevented from pushing boundaries or exploring new topics and different perspectives in their writing. As a result this will lead to a stagnation of literary culture, where only safe and predictable works will be published, and secondly it will backfire on companies now promoting safe and clean, unoffending, boring, republications of literary classics, mutilated by a select few 'sensitivity-readers' and supporters.

Finally, censorship can be arbitrary and subjective, and can be used to suppress dissenting voices. Those in positions of power may use censorship as a tool to maintain the status quo, while those pressure groups, hellbent to have books, theatrical plays, TV and movie productions censored, rewritten or adapted, are suppressing alternative viewpoints or perspectives. This is particularly harmful in higher education, where this cancer is spreading, and free speech is only good for one side, and open arguments are discouraged, so as not to offend anyone!

In conclusion, Penguin and everyone rewriting history, books or anything at all, undermines fundamental human rights, infantilizes individuals, suppresses artistic creativity, and stifles dissenting voices. As such, I reject all forms of literary censorship and instead promote free expression, open dialogue, and diversity of perspectives and ideas. That said, as long as the original books are available as a physical or preserved digital copies, those companies can censor, mutilate and republish all they want to. When no one is going to buy it, they will eventually have to stop and reconsider, or go bust. As long as it isn't in their power to remove access to originals, I don't worry too much for the future of open-minded, albeit controversial material being published.

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Always remember: keep an open mind and don't ever let anyone dictate what and how you have to think, what to read, which words you use, what you are watching and who you have to like or dislike, or what you say and how you have to say it. If, on the other hand, someone likes and supports this, there are countries those individuals would certainly love to live in. It must be easy to have people thinking for you and dictating what material is deemed save to read. If you wish to support people, do it in your daily life, be supportive and open minded, and take people for who they are, if they are good and friendly, you be the same, that's what makes a real difference. ;-)
Thank you for the eloquent and detailed reply. I really want to type the kind of stuff like the one you wrote to express my feeling about current socio and geopolitical stuff but because English is my second (third actually) language, a lot of people stop reading what I wrote halfway thru due to grammar mistakes.

You know why I'm so mad about this kind of censorship? Because I live in a corrupt country. Back in the 90s when I was still a wide eyed optimistic (and stupid) teenager I believe that USA is the beacon of justice and freedom. But now I'm saddened that the western world is no longer believe in that freedom. They scarily became almost like my country where telling the truth is punished and the one in power tend to got away with injustice.

One of my escape (other than video games) is books and I found Hercule Poirot to be an amazing father figure. It got better as the TV series got broadcasted here back in the 90s. He teach me that being polite and soft spoken but still have strong personality and conviction is important. So for me seeing Poirot books got censored and the game altered his personality by irresponsible game developers hurt me. They don't want the old and kind Poirot so they took him down to their level.

I fucking hate this. I don't care if they make new stories and stuff like that, but please don't destroy old classics for their short term short sightlessness ego boost.
That sort of freedom never existed or at least not for the last couple of hundred years. There are always people who decide what the truth is and others to try to force their truths on others.

Truths always depend on ones personal point of view. If at all, then stick to facts and not truths which are a interpretation of such (hopefully, but sadly more often than not of 'alternative facts').


But changing books - especially fictional ones ... I hat that. Should a contemporary author stick to modern society principles? Absolutely. But to change a fictional story that has been written a hundred years ago ... that is a no go. It also deforms our view of history.
A hundred years ago people saw the world in a certain way and if we read their stories, we can relate to how they thought. If we change these stories, then some might not understand how they saw the world back then.
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neumi5694: That sort of freedom never existed or at least not for the last couple of hundred years. There are always people who decide what the truth is and others to try to force their truths on others.

Truths always depend on ones personal point of view. If at all, then stick to facts and not truths which are a interpretation of such (hopefully, but sadly more often than not of 'alternative facts').

But changing books - especially fictional ones ... I hat that. Should a contemporary author stick to modern society principles? Absolutely. But to change a fictional story that has been written a hundred years ago ... that is a no go. It also deforms our view of history.
A hundred years ago people saw the world in a certain way and if we read their stories, we can relate to how they thought. If we change these stories, then some might not understand how they saw the world back then.
"This above all: to thine own self be true,
And it must follow, as the night the day,
Thou canst not then be false to any man." ~ Polonius("Hamlet"[The Bard])
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KeoniBoy: "This above all: to thine own self be true,
And it must follow, as the night the day,
Thou canst not then be false to any man." ~ Polonius("Hamlet"[The Bard])
Which means that also Shakespeare had a certain point of view :)
(where at least in the langues I speak "telling the truth" or "staying true to something" are very different).
It's still unclear if his plays were meant as 'comedy' entertainment for the common people who wanted to see lords and ladies fall or if it was meant to be a story taken seriously. And let's not forget that he was stoned quite often and also wrote about it :P

Btw, it's a good quote, I like htat one. Not saying anything bad about it.
Post edited April 20, 2023 by neumi5694