hedwards: The problem is that a lot of people do want that change. Now, the reasons for that may not be great, but there are a lot of very lonely gay men out there that don't fit in because they're going to hell.
dtgreene: Correction: They don't fit in because they *believe* they're going to hell. There is a big difference between someone believing something and it actually being true.
Correction, they don't fit in because other people believe they're going to hell.
hedwards: Does anybody know when exactly this forum turned to shit?
It's a serious question. People around here used to have class, but it seems like lately that not a single day goes by where I don't see a significant number of people engaging in some rather rude behavior.
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user___name: time to move on
Pretty much. It's a shame that Mr. Gog couldn't be bothered to provide a bit of moderation though. Fora are always in flux as people come and go, but that's really no excuse for some of the changes that have happened. Folks realize that there's basically no consequences for bad behavior, so you've got trolls operating without any particular disincentive to continue.