And so it begins...

Public nudity is illegal here, don't know if your country is the same or not. It is violating people right because many people do not want to see. Nudity in private places is ok because you do not affect others that do not wish to see.

Have to say I liked the conversation a lot more when Thunderdome was involved.

Why do I need scientific evidence to identify as a GOD?

I believe we are talking about the rights of an individual should not diminished the rights of another individual?

If my identification as a GOD does not diminished your right, then I have every right to identify as a GOD.

If my identification as a GOD diminished your rights, despite all the scientific evidence supporting that I am a GOD, I should not make public the fact I am a GOD to respect your rights.
Yes?

PS: If you don't like the word GOD, then replace it with DOG and the argument still stands.

Of course not. Transracialism and Trans-specieism is probably a mental disorder .
There was a very tame conversation about transgenderism and gender dysphoria in the GG thread. I'm not surprised trans people have the brain features of their identifying gender. One of the commonest ways gender dysphoria occurs is when the baby in the womb gets an imbalanced spread of hormones between his / her body and brain. Hence creating the feeling of being trapped in the wrong body. Basically, in the womb, their brain receives the hormones opposite to that of their sex, and the body is obviously of the per-determined sex. This is one of the strongest arguments against the ''gender is a social construct'' argument. Check out the GG thread.

Yes suicide rate is higher in trans people. AFAIK the cause is still unknown. I cannot provide statistics nor proof so you'll have to go by my word here but the rate of transgender suicides is very low here in India. I take it as an assumption based on lack of evidence, AKA there are no reports saying the suicide rate is high so I assume the opposite. This could mean a cultural element to this equation.

I decided to check your claim about transgender suicide rates in India and found an article that contradicts that claim:
http://www.thesoftcopy.in/archive/softcopy_2012_13/06_12_12_romana_suicide.html

Quote from that article: Also, keep in mind that some of these statistics are under-reported.
http://www.gaystarnews.com/article/india-statistics-include-trans-people-for-first-time/

It's also interesting to note that, in India, the supreme court recognizes transgender people, but has recriminalized gay sex. (One step forward, one step back, although they affect different (but not disjoint) groups of people.)

OK, good (bad actually) then. Seems I should've done better digging. Given economic conditions are also a factor; maybe the largest factor contributing to higher suicide rates is social rather than intrinsic to the person.
Yes the precedent will be difficult to break since SC precedents can be broken only with other SC judgements. Given that, I don't think anyone will ever be convicted of that if the case should arise and get appealed to the SC.
Factoid : adultery is a punishable crime as per Section 497 of the Indian Penal Code. Only for men.

I read contradicting information in the post your link yourself.

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At least 16 transgender people died of suicide in India last year and another 106 died in accidents, according to data released earlier this month
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Speaking to DNA, a Delhi-based transgender Rurani said: ‘Another reason for suicide can be the lack of opportunities faced by the community be it in getting an education or jobs.’

The data backs up her claim.

Thirteen of the 16 transgender people who died by suicide were aged between 18 and 30, four were un-employed, two were self employed and the 10 others were engaged in ‘other professions.’ Twelve earned less than 10,000 rupees ($156.62) a month.
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There are many people who would use constructed truth to make things seems more serious than it is. Like people use the rape statistic in prison to say rape is very serious in the US when it is actually declining.
http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2014/12/rape-way-down-over-past-two-decades-%E2%80%94-so-all-violent-crime

Is that the truth with prison rape? Yes, with the rest of the truth hidden to make matter look more serious than it is.



Now on the case of LGBT suicide, I am sorry not to respond on it earlier, I had this discussion before and need time to find the correct links

Suicide is not good regardless of gender identification. As to why US LGBT suicide is higher, maybe it is a cultural thing that LGBT suicide is glorified in US and children are entitled to have their parents paying for surgical fees.

Comparatively, India, where many family drown baby girls and are very very poor, Not many people cared if and LGBT individual suicide and LGBT individual themselves does not have much expectation for their parents to fork out money for their surgical procedure.

Ever wonder why suicide note is always taken down no matter the person sexual orientation, race, and religion?

Because it reduce suicide by 80%

http://www.suicide.org/media-guidelines-for-suicide.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copycat_suicide
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2864313/Social-media-glorifies-normalises-suicidal-behaviours-young-people-teenagers-recent-study-shows.html

By championing Leelah Alcorn suicide as a worthwhile cause, the LGBT community may did what her parent inadvertently did, encouraging suicide! Suicide is meaningful! Sure the LGBT did it in their best intention for the LGBT community, but these message may lead other "troubled" child think suicide is right and should do the same to contribute to the LGBT community.

In other words, many future suicide may be caused by the LGBT, unintentionally by glorifying suicide

What the LGBT community should do in improving the suicide rate is to send a message suicide is wrong.
She can removed herself from her parents' influence when she is an working adult and begun the sexual reassignment process. Two years, to which she "solved" by killing herself. Remember: "Suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem."

India has it's own issues right now that make separating them make sense. I have no idea if rape really is that much more common there than elsewhere, but that's the driving factor. In the US, I think it has more to do with the fact that they'd have to give men more stalls than anything else.
At least as an adult there's doors on the stalls. I remember when I was a kid there would often times not be a door on the stall at all. Having no divider between the urinals is no big deal compared with lack of doors.

I've heard women tell of restrooms that had couches in them and real glass mirrors. But, clearly they don't need to check their privilege.

That being said, who would use a couch in a restroom? Even if you assume that nobody is pissing on it, it's still going to have all sorts of e. coli and whatnot from the flushes.

Two years was too long for her to wait.

This is especially important when your parents are the sort who would send you to conversion therapy, which has been proven to do more harm than good (to the point where some US states have actually banned it for kids under 18).

Also, consider that her parents forbade her from contact with her friends. This leads to isolation, which is in this case led to suicide.

Here's a quote from a reddit post Leelah made: "It's like they want me to have enough social interaction so I won't forget how to interact with humans, but they don't want me to actually have healthy relationships with people."

The link to that reddit post, if you want to read it (major TRIGGER WARNING):
https://np.reddit.com/r/asktransgender/comments/2km6yt/is_this_considered_abuse

In conclusion, two years was indeed too long with abusive parents.

They're already doing that. That's what the "It gets better project"is all about. It's mostly American only, but there are similar projects elsewhere.

The social isolation is by far the worst part.

Around here we use them to eat soup. Oh, wait, there are no rep points. Never mind.

On the other hand, there's no soup either, so it evens out nicely.

I'm sure the old tale of "stone soup" came into play.