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Really, professional counseling?! what kind of cushy jobs do you people have? most normal jobs are stressful.

Berween Black Myth Wukong and Civilization, I would pick Wukong, since I don't think the Civilization games are particilarily fun in the long run (especially the later ones), and also because I'm very interested in Chiniese mythology.These games are hard to come by unless you can read chinese.

For chilling out and unwinding though, my personal choices would be Euro/American Truck Simulator, Way of the Hunter, No Man's Sky, Cities Skylines or some other city-builder like Ceasar or Nebuchadnezzar, or an epic wargame like Strategic Command or Order of Battle.
Post edited August 23, 2024 by 72_hour_Richard
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Zimerius: Maybe i rushed the sketch a bit too much. There should have been more personal information in there? or not ;-)

taken from some of the comments, people had no trouble picturing... someone :D

Though admitted, this does reflect my own situation a bit. Let me say this, my life path took me towards many opportunities to expand on a toolset for dealing with various situations
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timppu: Although I didn't really understand much of what you wrote, that is still very good to hear!

As for your original question, I think I found the perfect solution. I bought LEGO LOTR from GOG yesterday for only 4.99€!!! So should you. The game has everything: elves, Gandalf, orcs, Gandalf, hobbits, Gandalf, dwarves, Gandalf, Gandalf, Gandalf and Gandalf!

When you start the game, you will completely forget about those other games whose names I don't even remember anymore.
Why do you write????? lol (my personal reaction on your reaction :D)

Lego??? of course. I still have some lego games untouched on the epic store
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Carradice: Hi Zim

"High pressure work environment. Demanding a good physical condition as well as a healthy mindset.
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You need a new game,"

Looks like a big non sequitur.

If the person in this situation needs a new experience, it does not seem that playing videogames is going to be a new experience for said person.

If this person needs to be in good physical condition, it does not seem that videogames are going to help much with that.

If a healthy mindset is required, probably some fresh air an mild exercise would help. Also, any kind of socializing, even taking a walk or visiting a populated area, if you find yourself living in a place where some friends are not at hand.

The thing with videogames is that more often than not they evaporate big chunks of your time. There is an opportunity cost, since the time that you dedicate to playing games draws away from other activities. Like those mentioned above, as well as sleeping. Playing videogames can be compared to drinking beer or smoking, only that often it is done alone indoors. Add to that that it is easy to adopt a bat posture while seating playing a videogame. So, it requires some balance and self-control to keep it a not-too-unhealthy activity.

On the other hand, some time with a videogame can become a small reward after doing some chores, and we know that videogames can be fun and sometimes mind-expanding, but better keep the habit under control.

About family, what about trying to help them with their tasks/chores/issues/problems first, if they are not available for helping the person we are talking about? It might make for a better environment, possibly.

Thinking and caring for other people might help a lot. Also taking a walk, if no other healthy activity is available.

Good luck to the guy/gal you wrote about!
Heya

Maybe you're overthinking the job requirements a bit much, to give an example,

people who enjoy SM in their free time could be considered as a solid candidate for this job
Post edited August 23, 2024 by Zimerius
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sasuke12: If I have the money, I would buy -
Black Myth Wukong

This game has phenomenal reviews. Over 2 million people are playing and enjoying this game as we speak.

Plus the developers reject the western woke ideology crap and believe in making games for gamers by gamers.
really? somehow this, your comment, makes it all the more enticing to give the game a go ... i have some left over Asian heritage lost in a western world hanging around in my genes that do seem to prefer some relation with a past i never knew or experienced.

and really civ,
] i played civ 6 for 30 hours all in all, in good enjoyment tho, don't get me wrong here but if i experience Black Myth as to teen like than i also won't have a lot of enjoyment.
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Zimerius: Heya

Maybe you're overthinking the job requirements a bit much, to give an example,

people who enjoy SM in their free time could be considered as a solid candidate for this job
LOL XD

Well, I do now want to trash videogames. I would not trash wine or beer either. They can be great if kept in check, and they might do a lot of harm if abused, that is all.

Some videogames, appart from entertain, can inspire, help you learn things as you go, widen your horizons, and more. They can be a reward, an escape, or a starting point for something else beyond games. Although admittedly, many will just entertain, and others not even that.

If the person of the example absolutely must have a new game, a way might be... dive into their backlog, and be surprised. Otherwise, it is a matter of personal taste, if one is to choose between the two said games, for they belong to very different playstyles (strategy vs action).

Maybe you might want to start another thread about strategy vs action and how different genres might be suited to different situations in life?
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Zimerius: Heya

Maybe you're overthinking the job requirements a bit much, to give an example,

people who enjoy SM in their free time could be considered as a solid candidate for this job
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Carradice: LOL XD

Well, I do now want to trash videogames. I would not trash wine or beer either. They can be great if kept in check, and they might do a lot of harm if abused, that is all.

Some videogames, appart from entertain, can inspire, help you learn things as you go, widen your horizons, and more. They can be a reward, an escape, or a starting point for something else beyond games. Although admittedly, many will just entertain, and others not even that.

If the person of the example absolutely must have a new game, a way might be... dive into their backlog, and be surprised. Otherwise, it is a matter of personal taste, if one is to choose between the two said games, for they belong to very different playstyles (strategy vs action).

Maybe you might want to start another thread about strategy vs action and how different genres might be suited to different situations in life?
hmmm, the most negative point i can imagine about starting such a topic might be that it would be a nice exercise in displaying the 'inner turmoil' or uhm the various thoughts coming by when reading your idea

but okay... you got me thinking... acknowleding...

Not for now at least.
Well, if my goal was pure stress relief, I'd probably go for PlayerUnknown BattleGrounds. *shrug*

Its free to play, there is no pay to win component about it, you play against other players online and thus its quite challenging, one game lasts at most half an hour (if you get into the top 10) so its easy to estimate at which point you no longer have time to play, and it seems just the right game to get rid of excess aggressions.

You would probably also want to do some sports, too, like running 2-3 times a week, preferably in natural environment.
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Geromino: Well, if my goal was pure stress relief, I'd probably go for PlayerUnknown BattleGrounds. *shrug*

Its free to play, there is no pay to win component about it, you play against other players online and thus its quite challenging, one game lasts at most half an hour (if you get into the top 10) so its easy to estimate at which point you no longer have time to play, and it seems just the right game to get rid of excess aggressions.

You would probably also want to do some sports, too, like running 2-3 times a week, preferably in natural environment.
You know, i find it quite challenging to maintain balance when the pressure is pretty high. Especially since it seems i'm a lot more vulnerable and prone to bad decision-making when i'm with higher levels of stress.
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Geromino: Well, if my goal was pure stress relief, I'd probably go for PlayerUnknown BattleGrounds. *shrug*

Its free to play, there is no pay to win component about it, you play against other players online and thus its quite challenging, one game lasts at most half an hour (if you get into the top 10) so its easy to estimate at which point you no longer have time to play, and it seems just the right game to get rid of excess aggressions.

You would probably also want to do some sports, too, like running 2-3 times a week, preferably in natural environment.
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Zimerius: You know, i find it quite challenging to maintain balance when the pressure is pretty high. Especially since it seems i'm a lot more vulnerable and prone to bad decision-making when i'm with higher levels of stress.
This brings to mind the tv series House of Cards. In the first season, the machiavelian protagonist lets off steam by playing a FPS. He actually delighted in killing the opponent soldiers in the game. He was a psycho who feigned empathy by day). His wife told him off, as that hobby would be detrimental to his political career, if known (I wonder if today it would be the same, as a few famous actors and sports stars have mentioned they enjoy videogames).

Why did I mention this? Because maybe an action game might be more easily picked up to blow some steam if you only have a limited amount of time, while the games in the venerable Civilization series require some time for immersion. I would say an hour minimum per game session. On the other hand, this immersion might help forgetting about RL issues, if you have the time for it, that is.

Also, how much time would you give the person in the example for playing games, in weekdays and in weekends? (some Japanese game developers who are also parents establish a maximum of two hours at home, and some even less). Depending on that, you might have an answer.
Post edited August 23, 2024 by Carradice
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Zimerius: You know, i find it quite challenging to maintain balance when the pressure is pretty high. Especially since it seems i'm a lot more vulnerable and prone to bad decision-making when i'm with higher levels of stress.
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Carradice: This brings to mind the tv series House of Cards. In the first season, the machiavelian protagonist lets off steam by playing a FPS. He actually delighted in killing the opponent soldiers in the game. He was a psycho who feigned empathy by day). His wife told him off, as that hobby would be detrimental to his political career, if known (I wonder if today it would be the same, as a few famous actors and sports stars have mentioned they enjoy videogames).

Why did I mention this? Because maybe an action game might be more easily picked up to blow some steam if you only have a limited amount of time, while the games in the venerable Civilization series require some time for immersion. I would say an hour minimum per game session. On the other hand, this immersion might help forgetting about RL issues, if you have the time for it, that is.

Also, how much time would you give the person in the example for playing games, in weekdays and in weekends? (some Japanese game developers who are also parents establish a maximum of two hours at home, and some even less). Depending on that, you might have an answer.
I think the person as described in the topic would be very happy with Black Myth at that specific moment
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Zimerius: Situation:

High pressure work environment. Demanding a good physical condition as well as a healthy mindset.
2 colleagues are on the verge of collapse (not enough hands on the job). One could be considered an introvert with outbursts once every 2 days, the same outburst. The other is an extravert who tries to alleviate his condition with constant bad joking/ maintaining a social demanding profile. Both play an important role in your job responsibilities.

Financially, you are nearing the end of the month. All bills are paid for, but you know that losing a job at this specific moment could endanger a solid future.

Your household is too self-absorbed (for w/e reason possible) to be of any help at this moment.

You need a new game, a new experience, something to take your time away, while enabling you to at the same time to lower pressure levels, possibly providing insights on how to tackle challenges.

22 euros remain in your steam wallet.

Black Myth Wukong and Civilization 7 are available for purchase, you know you could enjoy either. Both are priced at 70 euros. Which is actually 10 euros more than you are willing to spend, taking your wallet into account.

You do need a game!

What will you do ?
I really hope this is an experiment using a made-up situation but probably it's not. By the way, I'm not in a so much better shape then you, from some points of view, really. Remember games and such are great to boost your mood but you have to care about them while trying to address other more basic issues in parallel. That said,
there's another caveat: those games seem a bit too expensive if you're on budget. I understand a brand new title would feel gorgeous but you still can go for something a bit more humble and get tons of content nonetheless.

The alternative, however is interesting: relaxing, logical and intellectually tough game with a real-life, kinda detached setting vs action-packed and (I suppose) reflex-based game with grim and violent setting.
Both. ("Both are good"). Or, to be realistic, any one of them.
The first one can teach you to sit and think. The other is a spectacular way to vent without consequences!
Post edited August 25, 2024 by marcob
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marcob: I really hope this is an experiment using a made-up situation but probably it's not. By the way, I'm not in a so much better shape then you, from some points of view, really. Remember games and such are great to boost your mood but you have to care about them while trying to address other more basic issues in parallel.
Apparently, about 50% of the workers in Europe experience burn out related complaints tho, only 11% experience complaints in a manner that would suggest they are near breaking point.
I'm not sure if this would apply to the person described in the post. He does worry about his mental health now and then. And he/she most definitely will take action if stress reaches a certain point.

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marcob: That said,
there's another caveat: those games seem a bit too expensive if you're on budget. I understand a brand new title would feel gorgeous but you still can go for something a bit more humble and get tons of content nonetheless.
Good point, this decision might ultimately lead to more headaches
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Xeshra: Yes, many people are contacting me all of a sudden, i do not even know how it was happening because i never tried contacting them... i just do the things i always do... for example writing a text because i feel like doing it; simply be myself, be authentic... and if something or someone may appear, welcoming it, as it may be the next big present.
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Carradice: Did an AI write this post?

One trained on a mysogynist body of text, too. The paragraphs do not make much sense when put together, especially the last (quoted above) but the first paragraph is outright sickening.

Is this a new level of low effort for those "seeking reactions"?
Well, some AI is currently training on subreddits :-p
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Zimerius: I would like to add that, at least in the Netherlands, looking to help for these kinds of situations is quite easy. Any local area doctor will listen to your story and provide a multitude of options that are probably very helpful to your specific situation (without costing to much money)

Alternatively, searching on the web can also provide for solutions
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Enebias: I have a couple fo friends from the Netherlands... yes, your country really does good work there, the issue is addressed properly for once.
I'm from Italy, and getting any kind of mental health support from public healthcare is outright impossible unless you're really in an extremely dire situation. Life threatening tier, I mean. This bad.
The public system just thinks mental health isn't "really" health, only the physical one matters somehow... if you want to get a therapist, be ready to fork over 100€+ per session, something people like me with a glorious 4€/h wage can just forget about.
So, in short, you can take care of your psyche only if you're wealthy.
Oh, fellow italian, it's not that the public system does not address mental health, it's just a) that it is underfunded, and mental health sector even more than the rest, plus b) we have the whole feeling (with some bases though) that these are two distinct fields that don't really fall into the same category. Still, the two are cared for in an almost completely separate ways and with different and sometimes outdated perspectives, so a global (or team-based) approach is needed to bridge the two but I fear is often not there..

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Zimerius: Heya

Maybe you're overthinking the job requirements a bit much, to give an example,

people who enjoy SM in their free time could be considered as a solid candidate for this job
SM means social media,while BD is big data, right?
Post edited August 25, 2024 by marcob
I think, this woman is handing out some great messages regarding those social matters some users are bringing up:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Joc-cpA4wio
What matters is not your gender, what matters is if you got a heart and a capable mind.
Besides, i do not think those whole "accusations" will lead to a lovely outcome; a good example of a no go.
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Geromino: Well, if my goal was pure stress relief, I'd probably go for PlayerUnknown BattleGrounds. *shrug*

Its free to play, there is no pay to win component about it, you play against other players online and thus its quite challenging, one game lasts at most half an hour (if you get into the top 10) so its easy to estimate at which point you no longer have time to play, and it seems just the right game to get rid of excess aggressions.

You would probably also want to do some sports, too, like running 2-3 times a week, preferably in natural environment.
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Zimerius: You know, i find it quite challenging to maintain balance when the pressure is pretty high. Especially since it seems i'm a lot more vulnerable and prone to bad decision-making when i'm with higher levels of stress.
Its literally a game that requires fast reflexes ... no time to think once you're in a fight. Its pure muscle memory at that point.

Also you can always have luck, or bad luck, too.
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Xeshra: I think, this woman is handing out some great messages regarding those social matters some users are bringing up:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Joc-cpA4wio
What matters is not your gender, what matters is if you got a heart and a capable mind.
Besides, i do not think those whole "accusations" will lead to a lovely outcome; a good example of a no go.
Tsk! The world does not need another source of acrimony, not after "vaccine battles" and pointless hate for thing Russian made before Putin was even born. Quit this incel grudgy propaganda. We know jerks are rampant and there's not enough love to make things go. It's no news and no campaign to be made: there's no clear enemy to be found about it!