I own both titles and yes there is plenty of drama (including some great escapes) going on in both titles outside of the H-scenes. Also if you're a fan of dark humor these games (over) deliver on that front as well.

Both are very well written. I highly recommend Starless and Closed Game but they may not ever come out on GoG due to the extreme nature of the content present in the games so I'd recommend getting them on JAST USA which is also DRM-free.

I mean, never say never.

That is not censorship .. you don't know the meaning of the word to declare that people legit reasonably wanting things keep as accurate as possible to be censorship, in fact getting mad at people who are mostly calm wanting accurate as can be without needless add-ons like in this case swearing is far more censorship like then people calming wanting as accurate as can be translations without going over the top

I'd put the odds of this happening as slightly more likely than the Disney Channel putting hentai on their midnight block ;)

Alright now, you listen to me. I hate to be crass but I have been reading your threads and it is pretty obvious that you were never going to buy anything from these companies and are just here to complain. Can we agree on that?

Western localization has changed up things for YEARS. There have been good examples of it, but also bad ones. You did know that "Effin" in Persona 5 is supposed to "fuck" right? The Japanese script translated directly reflects that. Guess what game STILL went on to sell millions of copies. Fans did not give a shit.

And I read your translation parts for Closed Game. As a guy who grew up in the 80's with anime dubs, I can say that I have no problem at all with Celicia cursing like a sailor. Sure, it wasn't in the original, but you'd be hard pressed to think that it didn't fit the loud mouthed tomboy that she was. And if you were getting raped by gimps, insects and giant worms, I am quite sure that you'd be cursing like a sailor too. I used to date tomboys, they're definitely loudmouthed and dirty minded ladies that you didn't want to be on the wrong end of an argument with. That's what attracted me to Celicia I guess. And I see that you translated one line as "kitten" instead of "dear sister" which is what is used in the English version. Dear sister fits Celine's haughty personality as well as her cynical nature, perfectly. She's such a damn well written character.

And I also believe that maybe Japanese experiences of these games and western experiences should be a bit different. I'll reference the Lunar Silver Star Story games, where the localizers admitted to changing lines that would not make sense to western audiences, like a joke that wouldn't have made sense to the non-Japanese. That's fine. I expect these translators to give it their own flavor, that's their interpretation. The company trusts them and so long as they don't mess up the important story bits, like you noted with the Sengoku Rance mythology (and please for the love of God I am tired of everyone fapping over that one, it's not that great) or add their personal politics, I'm fine with it.

Yes, I will agree that I don't like personal politics being inserted into games at all. That I will agree with 100%. But as far as the context or the presentation is concerned, as long as the story is not lost or not so far off base that it doesn't match the concept, I'm fine with it. In truth, there are probably a few translations that were off base but I enjoyed the story anyway. This has been a thing with anime since the stuff started coming to America. US Manga Corps used to dub the stuff and sometimes it was far more vulgar than normal, but we liked it and the story itself did not suffer due to the vulgarity.

If you have to have it subbed and literal translations, that's fine. But not everyone wants that. A lot of fans are just happy to have something in English. I'm just glad I have something I can read. I don't expect it to be perfect, but damn it I enjoyed it. If the translations of this stuff bug you that much, you may want to find a new hobby altogether. But yes, I will agree that things don't need to be censored and for fuck's sake we are talking about a company headed by a man who doesn't want to publish a single game with mosaics. I mean, this could have been Johren we're talking about, where you get mosaics and whatever else they give you. But it is not. This is Jast and while they are not perfect, they're much better than a lot of companies in the west working on this stuff right now. These people are fans, they give a shit about the games. At least try to respect that.

I'm tired of this shit, sir. It is truly childish. If you want to understand the material the way that the Japanese do, then stop what you're doing and work on learning the language. While you are doing that, get your passport in order and research lodging over in Japan. Once you have a job, a place to stay and knowledge of Japanese, then move to Japan and I can guarantee you the way that George Foreman used to say in Meineke commercials, that you will get the authentic Japanese experience from all media. You will understand every novel, every game, every anime, you name it - in the same way that the Japanese do. As a matter of fact, I recommend this. If you're that tied to the Japanese experience, then maybe it is time to get your stuff together and plan moving out to Japan. That is the only way you will ever experience this material at the authentic level. And yes, several westerners do come to Japan and find they enjoy it very much. So if you are a young man with ambition like Nobunaga, then go for it! Nippon awaits!

I mean, apparently these games are just as bad in terms of scenes. I see no reason why Empress stuff wouldn't come over here. Let's upset the puritans a little. Starless next week, Rance on Christmas, Maggot Baits and Euphoria on New Years! Sky is the limit.

30 years from now, Princess Jasmine and Tinkerbell will spend a blissful night together. Several dwarves may be involved.

But honestly, we might be seeing cultural standards shift towards more acceptance of sex. Especially if big companies like Disney decide they can make big bucks from doing so. After all, KFC now has a dating simulator where you can hook up with the Colonel. That was unimaginable in the Year 2,000.

I mean if I was the person at GoG that had to decide whether or not to add these two game to my portfolio I'd probably decline. The reason isn't any one item in isolation but the way all of these elements combine to form as a whole.

I'd recommend looking up the review of Starless entitled "Starless: Nymphomaniac’s Paradise (PC): Where the Stars Don’t Shine (Detailed Review) (NSFL)" for a more detailed discussion of the matter.

Again that's just my personal opinion and it is theoretically possible that one or both of these games will eventually appear on GoG.

True I can't stand games that have aethestics I don't like, just like Comics.
But really you can simply ignore them just as I ignore all the "woke" games, the "western cartoony Joke" graphic games, walk simulators etc..

Would be nice if GOG added a Blacklist feature, you wouldn't need to see any of the stuff you can't stand.
Problem solved, other than that I wouldn't see why the existence here on Gog should bother anyone that they groan about it.
(I mean it's not like a Non Anime/ H-Game was not taken because of those 2, which are btw on Steam too)

I guess when January comes I'm gonna have to write a review of my own. Annie didn't understand the context of that novel at all. I read parts of it and I laughed. Just a complete misunderstanding of the work. Do not judge that game based on Annie's review. As a matter of fact, I am so displeased by the way that these games have been reviewed that I am taking my over a decade's worth of professional reviewing experience and writing my own reviews for them on my website. When Annie noted that Euphoria was inspired by some kind of feminist book, I soon realized that it was far too off base for me. There is no way in hell the writer would have had any knowledge of that text to begin with. Making reviews based on personal politics is a no no unless the work is itself heavily political.

I will make a disclaimer that this is nothing against her nor her politics, I have full respect for her as a liberal transwoman. But I will say these politics should not be the forefront of review coverage.

Hah! Rance's pretty vanilla though. Jokes aside I believe that sectioning adult games off would help get more good adult games here and keep those puritans pacified.
There's a very slim chance I might be mistaken, but it feels like one massive overreaction, honestly, not something that'd convince someone to play it.

At risk of being political...compromising with conservatives only results in them pushing harder. Puritans and the like get off from forcing others into compliance, and will make up excuses if need be to continue the humiliation. My sex life certainly improved when hentai started to become "public", I feel that it is important to be forceful about normalizing sexuality. Whatever the proclivities, I and many other people do not wish to be locked back into the closet.

I want to enjoy all aspects of my life, unashamed.

And the reverse is also true with progressives when compromised with they'll push harder and harder with increasing unreasonable things .. so its a lose lose situation unless a balance between the two sides are truly found at this point


Edited in as forgot to mention ; whatever the prospect its quite off topic in a way to bring that up to a degree

Anyway I do want more games here no matter the type so long as they are good with even AO patchs for a choice to em

Probably depends on the person and their likes and dislikes but the only way to find out is to play it for yourself. But the game doesn't hold back in any way, shape or form that's for sure. If you think this might be up your alley probably best to get it directly from JAST. The game is DRM-free and they accept Paypal so it's a hassle free checkout. Also from what I remember GoG is based in Eastern Europe which is a little more culturally conservative than the US is today (so it may be a while on here).