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anothername: In single-player everybody who desires should cheat to hers or his hearts desire. But in multiplayer, even 10x more so in competitive multiplayer every ban is justified and if they manage to totally destroy the hack creator all the better. He not only purposefully makes profit piggybacking Blizzards game; the way which he does kills the fun of the hack users victims (which might make them leave the game & stop investing time & money).
You've hit the nail on the head for why Blizzard is saying they've lost/are losing revenue. There's certain multiplayer games I will never play again, because of hacks and the company's seeming unwillingness to do anything about it (NCSoft I'm looking at you).

I used to play several mmo's, rotating between them. These days the only one I still play is Elder Scrolls Online, because they lay the hammer down as needed. I do own Overwatch, but I wouldn't play ranked as it stands.
Post edited July 07, 2016 by Leucius
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almabrds: http://www.pcgamer.com/blizzard-is-suing-the-creator-of-an-overwatch-cheat-program/
Blizzard has done some pretty stupid things in the past, but I congratulate them for doing this.
This is just gold.
That german(s) must be pretty pissed right now.
Awesome. I don't agree with a lot of Blizzard's current business practices and DRM, but I totally salute them for doing this. Cheaters ruin games for true players and fans of the games. I don't care if people cheat in single player games, or in multi-player LAN mode with their friends who are willing accomplices, but people who cheat in global multiplayer against unknowing victims or ruin games so that there are none out there without cheaters should be not only sued, but should be drawn and quartered, then set on fire, brought back to life, then have their bodies chained in a bathtub with one drip of HCl per minute dripping into it until they turn into liquid goo.

Figuratively speaking of course.

of course...
In fact, I hope people that get caught cheating in any games not only get banned, but that if they buy another copy of the game and DO NOT cheat with it, that they get banned too. I hope they get banned from all of their games they have NEVER cheated in. Oh, and then I hope they get launched from the Warwick trebuchet into loch ness too.
Post edited July 07, 2016 by skeletonbow
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almabrds: I feel you don't like the company, and that's ok.
But let's not close our eyes, the cheaters are guilty of ruining a lot of Overwatch matches with the hacks/cheats/whatever they created.
If you think cheaters in online games don't affect the profit of the company you should think again.
I don't care about blizzard one way or the other, the way they are tackling this is issue is just totally not good. And it's not like i have any simpathy for the bossland guys either, it's a way to make a living I guess, but a pretty scummy one.

It's just that if game companies find ways to enforce their EULAs that say "look at our game's code funny and we`ll take your firstborn" the modding sscene is going to take quite a hit I think.

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Navagon:
Yeah that law is super weird, as far as I know germany the only country were you have to sign a "I swear I won't download any illegal shit" paper every time you're at a hotel or family run Bed&breakfast.
Post edited July 07, 2016 by WBGhiro
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almabrds: http://www.pcgamer.com/blizzard-is-suing-the-creator-of-an-overwatch-cheat-program/
Blizzard has done some pretty stupid things in the past, but I congratulate them for doing this.
This is just gold.
That german(s) must be pretty pissed right now.
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skeletonbow: Awesome. I don't agree with a lot of Blizzard's current business practices and DRM, but I totally salute them for doing this. Cheaters ruin games for true players and fans of the games. I don't care if people cheat in single player games, or in multi-player LAN mode with their friends who are willing accomplices, but people who cheat in global multiplayer against unknowing victims or ruin games so that there are none out there without cheaters should be not only sued, but should be drawn and quartered, then set on fire, brought back to life, then have their bodies chained in a bathtub with one drip of HCl per minute dripping into it until they turn into liquid goo.

Figuratively speaking of course.

of course...
In fact, I hope people that get caught cheating in any games not only get banned, but that if they buy another copy of the game and DO NOT cheat with it, that they get banned too. I hope they get banned from all of their games they have NEVER cheated in. Oh, and then I hope they get launched from the Warwick trebuchet into loch ness too.
If they sue invoking the sabotage law, I will support that.
http://definitions.uslegal.com/s/sabotage/

But they are suing invoking the EULA, which they can change anytime, write anything to favor them, then I hope they lose.
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Gnostic: If they sue invoking the sabotage law, I will support that.
http://definitions.uslegal.com/s/sabotage/

But they are suing invoking the EULA, which they can change anytime, write anything to favor them, then I hope they lose.
I just want to see cheaters that screw the larger legitimate gaming community burn in the fire of 1000 suns. They could hire hitmen to go after them, or they could use the espionage act and send them to Gitmo for all I care. I've been in games where cheaters promulgated and hopped from one server to another to another to another trying to find a single server that wasn't plagued with aimbots until I gave up and said fuckit. Now I almost never go on multiplayer with such games.

Even though I wont buy Blizzard games anymore I am a big fan of the actual games I've played back in the day. I bought pretty much all of their games up to Warcraft III, then after that "things changed" and I "put them on the list".

Starcraft II is pretty amazing, and it's my current primary multiplayer game at the moment. Been doing LAN parties 1-2 times a month with that lately but almost exclusively private games with close friends. I do occasionally go on Battle.NET to have a few games but haven't gotten into it bigtime so not sure if there is cheating going on there or not, none that I've noticeably encountered in my little time on Bnet anyway. But even though I don't care for Blizzard's current business practices, DRM etc. - I consider multiplayer online cheaters to be a much larger scum of the earth to be defeated by any means necessary. In a way, it's even better if Blizzard uses the EULA as their own "cheat" so to speak. :)
Cheaters never prosper.
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Gnostic: If they sue invoking the sabotage law, I will support that.
http://definitions.uslegal.com/s/sabotage/

But they are suing invoking the EULA, which they can change anytime, write anything to favor them, then I hope they lose.
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skeletonbow: I just want to see cheaters that screw the larger legitimate gaming community burn in the fire of 1000 suns. They could hire hitmen to go after them, or they could use the espionage act and send them to Gitmo for all I care. I've been in games where cheaters promulgated and hopped from one server to another to another to another trying to find a single server that wasn't plagued with aimbots until I gave up and said fuckit. Now I almost never go on multiplayer with such games.

Even though I wont buy Blizzard games anymore I am a big fan of the actual games I've played back in the day. I bought pretty much all of their games up to Warcraft III, then after that "things changed" and I "put them on the list".

Starcraft II is pretty amazing, and it's my current primary multiplayer game at the moment. Been doing LAN parties 1-2 times a month with that lately but almost exclusively private games with close friends. I do occasionally go on Battle.NET to have a few games but haven't gotten into it bigtime so not sure if there is cheating going on there or not, none that I've noticeably encountered in my little time on Bnet anyway. But even though I don't care for Blizzard's current business practices, DRM etc. - I consider multiplayer online cheaters to be a much larger scum of the earth to be defeated by any means necessary. In a way, it's even better if Blizzard uses the EULA as their own "cheat" so to speak. :)
Even at the cost of other innocent people get hit by friendly fire?

Rockstars has been using their EULA to ban players who use mods, even on Single player only
http://attackofthefanboy.com/news/gta-v-pc-mods-blocked-eula-players-banned-even-single-player-mods/
Only after a big enough backlash they relented.

Apple has created a EULA that states if you sell your ibook content using ibook, you cannot sell that content elsewhere. Only after backlash from a legion of technical journalists and copyright analysts apple relented.
http://www.cmswire.com/cms/mobile/apple-releases-slightly-less-evil-version-of-ibooks-author-eula-014404.php

Publish like Sony and Activation has created a EULA that give them the rights to user generated content and sell these content without paying a compensation to the creators. So far there is not enough backlash to stop that.
http://gamepolitics.com/2008/10/18/who-owns-your-little-big-planet-creations-hint-probably-not-you/