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General discussionCD PROJEKT officially adopts the ESG score(141 posts) (141 posts) 
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Posted October 14, 2022
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Gudadantza: Why should a company not agree with corporate measures against pollution, or emissions or justice and workers conditions, diversity and good work spaces, or sanity in the inner administration or company government?
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LootHunter: Because "corporate measures" that are incentivized by the EGS score have very little to do with the actual reduction of emissions, improving working conditions, or any other rational change. It's mostly activism, censorship, and propaganda that blames white straight men for every problem in human history.
Yeah. what you are wielding here is alt right Cultural war. The intention of this Thread/Threat is crystal clear. Apparently something is only political if you do not agree with it.

You call it "Blame white men", I call it ideological victimism, a reaction against others' rights, or sexual conditions.
Trying to protect the same privileges of Big people that is treating common people as puppets. Make the latter one in the row fighting against the penultimate. Lets focus in the wrong blameworthies to be safe as ever.
Posted October 14, 2022
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LootHunter: It actually does. Just because investors like Black Rock are too detached from the market it takes too much time.
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Vainamoinen: when Gilette goes broke in 240 years, it's defo because of that advertisement in the 2010s.
Ah, so you DO admit that the ad, which shows approaching a girl at the party to be bad behavior for a guy, is woke...
Post edited October 14, 2022 by LootHunter
Posted October 14, 2022
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Gersen: ESG is mostly marketing BS targeted toward investors, and the linked video perfectly illustrate it.

I don't think it will necessarily have any real negative impact on the games, but we will see.
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mechmouse: The majority of people are "woke", as in they're empathetic and rather not have to use people as scapegoats or stepping stones to improve their lives.
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Gersen: That's not being "woke" that being "normal", woke is when you push that to a toxic fanatical extreme. But of course like all words nowadays it is used for everything and nothing.
being woke is used against anything which does not go with white male christian constantly angry vibe.

the buzzlighyer movie was woke apparently cause it had a 2 second lesbian scene.

so kissing was present in every toy story and most of other pixar movies. but hey. disney went woke because he had that two second scene and nothing else.

woke became term for normal people when crazies started attacking regular people with their anti-woke commentary.
Posted October 14, 2022
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LootHunter: Ah, so you DO admit that the ad, which shows approaching a girl at the party to be bad behavior for a guy, is woke...
Oh wonderful, another reactionary political tangent. We're changing goal posts more often than GOG sends out store notification e-mails apparently. I will just assume that you've understood that you were trying to cling to an obviously false statement and then defended it with an invalid argument.

But no amount of whataboutism will hide the simple fact that "go woke, get broke" is wishful thinking by xenophobic white men. The exact opposite is true. And that is truly great.

Thanks in advance for getting the thread locked though.
Post edited October 16, 2022 by Vainamoinen
Posted October 14, 2022
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lukaszthegreat: being woke is used against anything which does not go with white male christian constantly angry vibe.

the buzzlighyer movie was woke apparently cause it had a 2 second lesbian scene.
No, it was woke because Lightyear was depicted as a pigheaded incompetent moron, who in the end actually becomes a villain. A far cry from the hero of "Star Command" that became Andy's favorite after the boy saw the movie. But of course, Buzz being an actual likable hero, appealing to boys such as Andy would "go with white male Christian constantly angry vibe" so Lightyear creators couldn't possibly go that route.
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Gudadantza: You call it "Blame white men", I call it ideological victimism
You can call it whatever you want, but all you have to do is just look at a few comments above to see who blames whom.
Post edited October 14, 2022 by LootHunter
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lukaszthegreat: woke became term for normal people when crazies started attacking regular people with their anti-woke commentary.
As I said nowadays it is used for everything and nothing. But that's true for a lot of words, we reached a point where being "racist" or "misogynist" is simply a synonym for not liking the wrong of the Star wars sequel or MCU cash grab TV series, very far from their original intended definition.
Posted October 14, 2022
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Strangely, even though I happen to dislike the entire MCU and most of Star Wars these days (Broken Order was great), I've never been called racist or misogynist because of that. Maybe it's because I'm not calling those friends of mine who are heavily into Marvel "woke SJW leftist sellout garbage". Maybe the perspective is a bit screwed because some narrative media just isn't for me, and I understand that. The premise of superhero stories in general has a really hard time clicking with me these days, that's a difficult hurdle for Disney to overcome. I'm more into ordinary people finding ways to overcome extraordinary hardships, injustice and limitations through persistence, creativity, empathy, and teamwork. But if these ordinary people don't have my color of skin, gender, or sexual orientation, I am not in any way discomforted to walk a mile in the protagonist's shoes nonetheless.
Post edited October 14, 2022 by Vainamoinen
Posted October 14, 2022
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mechmouse: "Go Woke, Go Broke" doesn't work
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LootHunter: It actually does. Just because investors like Black Rock are too detached from the market it takes too much time.
Please name a company that's gone broke, or even suffered the slightest loss of income from having a Rainbow flag or using peoples Pronouns
Posted October 14, 2022
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LootHunter: It actually does. Just because investors like Black Rock are too detached from the market it takes too much time.
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mechmouse: Please name a company that's gone broke, or even suffered the slightest loss of income from having a Rainbow flag or using peoples Pronouns
LucasFilms, BBC, Disney, Amazon. Though, just to be clear, they did a lot more than "Rainbow flag and Pronouns".
Post edited October 14, 2022 by LootHunter
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mechmouse: Please name a company that's gone broke, or even suffered the slightest loss of income from having a Rainbow flag or using peoples Pronouns
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LootHunter: LucasFilms, BBC, Disney, Amazon. Though, just to be clear, they did a lot more than "Rainbow flag and Pronouns".
BBC's reputation has tanked for going the complete opposite of woke. The "Balanced" opinions of lets counter this world renowned scientist with Jeff from the pub has lost the BBC all credibility. It a government mouth piece.

LucasFilm was bought out by Disney a decade ago, long before the rise of the current right wing gibberish

That leaves Disney and Amazon

Both their share Prices rocketed during Pandemic, both dropping after, Disney more sharply (guessing the collapse of cinema chains isn't helping).

Really can't see them as Broke, or anything close to it.
Posted October 14, 2022
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mechmouse: Really can't see them as Broke, or anything close to it.
Yeah, fair point. I only wish I was as "broke" as Disney is :)).

But then again, we're probably comparing where they are to where they'd like (and were planning) to be. In that sense, yes, they sort of went a bit broke, you could say.

I don't think it has as much to do with "wokeness" as some would like to think, though. People are simply tired of them milking every damn franchise they acquire.
Post edited October 14, 2022 by WinterSnowfall
Posted October 14, 2022
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mechmouse: Please name a company that's gone broke, or even suffered the slightest loss of income from having a Rainbow flag or using peoples Pronouns
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LootHunter: LucasFilms, BBC, Disney, Amazon. Though, just to be clear, they did a lot more than "Rainbow flag and Pronouns".
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mechmouse: Really can't see them as Broke, or anything close to it.
So, you can't see that each Star Wars Disney Trilogy movie had grossed less money than the previous?
You can't see why Doctor Who's viewership declined, can you?
Have you never heard how Disney lost some of its privileges in Florida for going into politics at full force?
House of Dragon never kicked Rings of Power's ass in popularity?

As I've said earlier - yes they are far from getting broke because of the sheer amount of money they have. But no matter how many resources those corporations have, those aren't infinite.
Post edited October 14, 2022 by LootHunter
Posted October 14, 2022
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WinterSnowfall: I don't think it has as much to do with "wokeness" as some would like to think, though. People are simply tired of them milking every damn franchise they acquire.
For me, Disney is like one of the AAA of the movie/tv industry.

You know that with the amount they spent producing and vetting everything, it won't be terrible, but unless you haven't seen a lot, you're very unlikely to be blown away by anything they come up with.

Its a safe, campy entertainment choice.

If you have all the time in the world, maybe you can pad your time with that, but with the limited time I have, I want to be blown away (or at least try, go for something new). I want them to dare going outside of ultra predicable boring boundaries that have been threaded to death 10 times over.

So, not a whole lot of Disney for me.
Post edited October 14, 2022 by Magnitus
Posted October 14, 2022
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Narushima: Piotr Nielubowicz (6.81% of shares in CD PROJEKT S.A.)

BlackRock owns 1.23% of shares in CD PROJEKT.

You will be educated according to the ideology of a billionaire, and you will like it.
8.04% are far from being a majority...that's all I'm going to say here.
Posted October 14, 2022
In modern western public discourse, the overton window has moved so far to the left that the centrists of 10 years ago are now considered racist and fascists. The rampant double standards don't even need to be talked about. But it has gone so far now that woke people wants to stifle free debate and discussions. They're emulating China to a T.

As for "go woke go broke", it's a simple cold hard fact that's been shown over and over again. Whether you agree with the ideology or not, whenever any show is woke, the quality takes a huge nosedive. Because the creators aren't concerned with making a good work of art anymore, their main priority is to make sure that it's ideologically acceptable. Netflix has cancelled numerous shows because nobody was watching it.

Resident Evil got cancelled just a month after it's debut because it simply was so bad. Not even woke people themselves watch woke shows. Chris Pratt's show on Amazon on the other hand, is a resounding success.

The ESG score is antithetical to market economies. They might as well just go all the way and become like China and Soviet Union. The free market will speak for itself, regardless of what your ideology is.


Now that CD Projekt is adopting the ESG score, I do wonder how it will affect the games they decide to release for GOG. Makes me wonder how Witcher 4 will turn out.
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