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timppu: I had to google what "woke" means, though.
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Lifthrasil: Woke is just one of the keywords that mean: "I want to start a flame war!" ... no matter which side uses it.
That's not what it means. That is how it is used.
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richlind33: This too shall pass... :o
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paladin181: I'm sure. You really learn a lot about who people are in these threads though.
Get out of this place for a while, before it does you in.

If you kill yourself I'm going to be down one less person I can actually talk to without being inundated by bigoted hypocritical hate mongering bullshit.
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Lifthrasil: This statement is so, so wrong! There is a huge difference between criticizing what someone DOES and what someone IS! Not liking trans people on a matter of principle is transphobia. Not liking what certain people do is just not liking what certain people do. No matter who those people are. Trans people are not beyond reproach. They aren't perfect and uncriticizable by virtue of being trans - even if many pretend to be. Especially the assholes among them. Which exist just like in any other group of people.
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babark: If someone says 'I don't like what trans people do!', I can be fairly certain they're transphobic. They didn't say 'I don't like what that trans person did!' or 'I don't like what that person (who happens to be trans) does!'.
But that isn't a phobia. That's just someone who doesn't like it. Transphobic is being fearful of trannies. People have the right to be that way, if that is how they feel. We have no right to tell them otherwise.
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richlind33: This too shall pass... :o
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paladin181: I'm sure. You really learn a lot about who people are in these threads though.
It's not easy being human. Especially in a world that is undergoing rapid change. So do what you have to do to take care of yourself.
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Fender_178: There are 2 gender/sexes or whatever you want to call them. It is a scientific fact. It is silly for some people to argue against that.
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Pheace: So when male frogs turn into female frogs, I assume you consider them female from that point on?
If they have the same reproductive organs as female frogs then yes I do.
It got worse!
Post edited August 31, 2019 by user deleted
Reading through the last few pages here, I don't think you folks know what a phobia actually means. An irrational fear of trans people is being transphobic. Simply disagreeing with how they are is not.
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darthspudius: Reading through the last few pages here, I don't think you folks know what a phobia actually means. An irrational fear of trans people is being transphobic. Simply disagreeing with how they are is not.
'Not liking trans people' (as opposed to not liking a person for a reason unrelated to them being trans) is what transphobia is.

OED: dislike of or prejudice against transsexual or transgender people.

WIKI: Transphobia encompasses a range of negative attitudes, feelings or actions toward transgender or transsexual people, or toward transsexuality. Transphobia can include fear, aversion, hatred, violence, anger, or discomfort felt or expressed towards people who do not conform to society's gender expectation.
The only thing I'm concerned after I watched the new video was that the character creation has changed. Before male or female were naked with blurred reproductive parts and now they are wearing under garments.

I thought CD Projekt was firm on their stance from the beginning.
Post edited August 31, 2019 by novumZ
Screw it, it won't contribute to anything to reply.
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babark: 'Not liking trans people' (as opposed to not liking a person for a reason unrelated to them being trans) is what transphobia is.
Agh hahahahahaha Not liking trans people is what transphobia is Yeah umm... NO!

a PHOBIA is

phobia /ˈfəʊbɪə/
noun: phobia; plural noun: phobias
an extreme or irrational fear of or aversion to something.

It's just disgust not a phobia

disgust /dɪsˈɡʌst/
noun
a feeling of revulsion or strong disapproval aroused by something unpleasant or offensive.

It's weird that people can't differentiate the two.

It is the way they act that I find highly offensive Video example
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babark: 'Not liking trans people' (as opposed to not liking a person for a reason unrelated to them being trans) is what transphobia is.
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fr33kSh0w2012: Agh hahahahahaha Not liking trans people is what transphobia is Yeah umm... NO!

a PHOBIA is

phobia /ˈfəʊbɪə/
noun: phobia; plural noun: phobias
an extreme or irrational fear of or aversion to something.

It's just disgust not a phobia

disgust /dɪsˈɡʌst/
noun
a feeling of revulsion or strong disapproval aroused by something unpleasant or offensive.

It's weird that people can't differentiate the two.
People can. Just people like babark don't want to. You see it's very easy to lump ligitimate criticism with phobias, bigotry, etc. Than just call all those people "transphobes" and wish them to die.
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fr33kSh0w2012: Agh hahahahahaha Not liking trans people is what transphobia is Yeah umm... NO!

a PHOBIA is

phobia /ˈfəʊbɪə/
noun: phobia; plural noun: phobias
an extreme or irrational fear of or aversion to something.

It's just disgust not a phobia

disgust /dɪsˈɡʌst/
noun
a feeling of revulsion or strong disapproval aroused by something unpleasant or offensive.

It's weird that people can't differentiate the two.
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LootHunter: People can. Just people like babark don't want to. You see it's very easy to lump ligitimate criticism with phobias, bigotry, etc. Than just call all those people "transphobes" and wish them to die.
Harsh truths right there.
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AB2012: Unless I'm missing something, is there some link to describe what OP is referring to?
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amok: https://www.gameinformer.com/2019/06/15/cyberpunk-2077s-character-creator-will-include-nonbinary-gender-options

So instead of choosing gender (the option no longer exist) the player chose body types, and can mix up voice, face and body types if they wish.
Thus helping to erase the word and concept of 'sex' from our voculary and the ability to think about as a concept.

I was thinking maybe they just lost the ability to use the word sex, like people have already lost it; with the gender being placed in quite a few passports withch makes no god damn sense whatsoever. That if what I hear in the next 8 months is good I might still buy it.

But now their modding posts for fucking "hatespeach."

I'm done; CDPR have gone full woke; and they're not getting any of my money until after they're regained their sanity.

Hey, CDPR, you guys are from Poland, the rest of your country will want your hides.

If this is the modder being some dipshit in other country, fire him or her, and rehire the one you fired because a bunch of SJWs whined.
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GameRager: 2nd bit: Nope. Gender is a social construct and thus any number is as valid as any other. 2 genders, no genders, infinite genders....all valid.

Also if you mock people who claim there are 2 genders then you must also mock anyone who claims other numbers of genders as since gender is made up and in the mind any number is equally valid and calling one bigoted or wrong as you are is in fact being very bigoted and closeminded.
Nope, gender is the sex of your brain, and just like the sex of your body, there's only two of them.

And they most certainly do matter to science; of course, certain individuals who chance sex to "body type", who constantly whine about gender, and imagine there are 70+ (rather 7 billiong for they are collectivists and are trying to turn their own individual identity into a collective) are busy erasing the very concept of sex from our language, and with it our ability to think and use the concept.
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