First off, I don't know if you know this or not, but you are giving unfair examples in your first bit to make your position look reasonable by comparison....not good debating tactics, and if you are doing it on purpose it's questionable at best.

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1st bit: It depends on how fun it was to play and who was playing it, of course.

Also, i'd rather they be honest about why they were doing such and not hide it behind PR spin.

2nd bit: Nope. Gender is a social construct and thus any number is as valid as any other. 2 genders, no genders, infinite genders....all valid.

Also it's not bigoted to say actual scientific fact(such as the correct phrasing[not what OP said] that there are only 3 s*xes, and gender is just feelings and doesn't count in the long run scientifically).

But why do I keep replying to you? From your wording/replies(especially the one calling everyone who holds such beliefs bigots, which in effect makes YOU a bigot) you seem to be in the NPC crowd of "those guys/gals are bigots/x-ist/x-phobic" and likely just repeat whatever the lib media tells you to.

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Some claimed and I agree that normalization and "defanging" those terms and phrases takes away their power. Trying to censor such(as some do and want) or getting upset over such just strengthens them and makes them more powerful.

Also if you mock people who claim there are 2 genders then you must also mock anyone who claims other numbers of genders as since gender is made up and in the mind any number is equally valid and calling one bigoted or wrong as you are is in fact being very bigoted and closeminded.

This culture war 20% of the world is having is really freaking tiresome.

Then I apologize. But I shouldn't have to point out to you that scapegoating is *not* exclusively practiced on the right, or that there isn't a single marxist gov't, currently or historically, that championed the cause of human rights. At one point Cuba was on a trajectory to achieve that distinction, but ultimately failed, and rather badly.

If you can find a way to leave it without leaving the planet or humanity itself let me and the rest of us know. :|

Because racism is (for the most part) considered bad today, I used it as a mundane example, because transphobia is still more widely accepted. Sorry if you consider that unfair.

So when the communist government of China denies the existence of the Taiwanese people, they're as equally valid as the Taiwanese people who say they exist? :)

But I guess I'm just a bigot for calling bigots bigots. How will I live with myself?

Not liking what trans people do/some of what they do or thinking there are a different number of made up genders is not transphobia, just like being suspicious of a minority that is doing something suspicious(or arresting them for comitting a crime) is not racism(as an example).

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Yes, technically be labelling all people with such beliefs as bigots you are being extremely bigoted. The only difference is it's accepted and okay(by some) to be bigoted against such people for some odd reason.

There are 2 gender/sexes or whatever you want to call them. It is a scientific fact. It is silly for some people to argue against that.

God I'm growing to detest you guys...

When did they do that exactly?

What they deny is the legitimacy of the so-called "Republic of China", which is what the Taiwanese government fancies calling itself. But that's an entirely different can of worms and has nothing to do with "the existence of the Taiwanese people".

But bonus points for bringing up the communists. You figured the mere mention of the c-word will send the local conservatards into a tailspin and no one will dare debunk your made-up bullshit. Nice try, though!

So when male frogs turn into female frogs, I assume you consider them female from that point on?

CD Project* went WOKE? But everyone has to go to sleep, and everyone has to wake up!

Right? Right?



*also, it's Projekt.

So you believe in "state capitalism"? lol

For the arguing or the stances being stated by those here?

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The difference being that the frogs(I assume) can then function as that gender(reproduction/etc)....not so with other species like(most) humans. Also that is a rare exception and not the norm(afaik) in the animal kingdom....usually most animals stay the sex(or lack of one) they are born into...barring the rare exceptions to the rule.

Although that poster you replied to is wrong....s*x and gender are separate and there are 2(or 3 with inters*x) sexes and any number of genders(as gender is a social construct).

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1st bit: Funny and interesting reply, but it is true in another way....we all sometimes need to wake up to reality in various ways(I know, waxing philisophical on a forum for games is kinda odd, but I roll with it).

2nd bit: True enough....you'd think people would have better respect for grammar. :)

I think this is kinda the reason for "they bent" accusations. A lot of people think that CD Project is afraid to name a male a male and a female a female, because of fear to trigger ResetEra crowd.
There are no people with legitimate criticism of intersectionality and "progressive" politics, only bigots, nazis and homophobes, right?

Quite a genius resolution that CDPR made here. In my opinion not giving genders a label would also be the best choice and I'm glad that CDPR figured that stuff out as well.

So Instead of physically provide gender options with an UI dropdown field, simply leave stuff out and let people fill in the gaps. This change is also very inoffensive, because what isn't there can't be really be complained upon. Skyrims Racemenu does this sort of thing as well. Instead of labeling things in terms just give things a number instead and people will work out what they mean, which in the end has the same effect as not labeling it at all (albeit Racemenus way is a bit more complicated than what CDPR does here).

I'm fairly certain CDPR has taken some ideas from these sort of things but I feel that simply understanding abstraction with and inside art is a simple solution to many things overall so I'm not absolutely sure if I'm right here.

At any case, its also only logical and reasonable to see humanity trend to shift into a more diverse existence as well, as well as a more tolerant one. Let me get political for a bit. If we say for instance that feudalism would make a political comeback worldwide I can say for certain that it won't serve the exact same functions as it did even just 200 years ago, simply because on how society developed prior before its new-found existence. The same applies for basically every single ideology that didn't fully stood the test of time (though compared even to nowadays perspective important stuff like democracy for instance was applied differently 2250 years ago than today as well). This reasoning literally applies to any political ideology. What people fighting for in the end is never fully what they initially fought for because they compare ideologies from different eras. Only the largest extremes that trend to be vastly positive for humanity, such as the right for freedom for instance, is basically ideologically homogenerous. The science also indicates that people will become less racially divided as well.

Besides politics the science of intergender is still petty new though, but simple logic can be applied here as well. There is one big rule: The amount of people correlate to its diversity of the general population. Which means that the size of the population is directly responsible to its diversity. Or in other terms the larger the genepool the higher the chances are of the potential of a more diverse genepool and potentially more people who're LGBT. It simply means being a trans person has a higher chance to happen then it does now, but all in all it still boils down to personal choice. As with anything people can choose to simply keep living their lives without adhering to outside influences of social pressure. As an example I know of two trans persons, with one simply chosen to not have gender surgery and just live their life instead without fully committing/spending (mental) resources and become stressed about it. What I mean is that one can also simply choose to not care about "(fe-)maleness" at all. You could be the sexiest woman or the hunkiest man in the world but if you don't feel like it just be something else or simply be whatever you want instead and your soul/aura will reflect that. In the end it always boils down to your own commitment in what and how you want your life to feel like.

And last but not least and thats stuff people mentioned before, Cyberpunk is all about intersectionality between technology and humanity, which also including an far larger extreme, which is transhumanism. Without ranting too much further. In the end if you don't enjoy that stuff at all simply don't play the game which is what I would do if I don't like something. It would take 10 times less time to make such a purchasing decision than to type this sentence, thats how much of a issue that would be for me :).

EDIT: Having read the thread fully now I still don't get some of the criticism that people voiced. You can still play as a male/female person but its simply just not intentionally labeled as such. In fact doing it this game kinda gives you more options in the way players can choose to play the game with the character they seek out to create. Its not even very political, its kinda more about the RP element that CDPR considered than it is of a political nature. Stop circlejerking around Social Media bubbles where you're forcefed the notion that everything must be political and instead understand that the effect of your actions can simply have a trend to become political, its all cum hoc ergo propter hoc stuff that people do in order to make people believe something that is wrong if you look into it for longer than a minute or so.

EDIT 2: Oh my, my first "low rated" comment, exciting times indeed! But imagine getting downvoted for simply stating that humanity is bound to become more tolerant due to inert tendencies though :P.

EDIT 3: Why is the "low rated" tag away? What a rollercoaster ride, haha.