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Nope, Carmageddon's 2 graphics were awesome for me. The main goal anyway was not see their face (you couldn't even do that on the first one), it was to MAIM people and decapitate (or to destroy cars with more style). The only thing i hated about carmageddon 2 was the Desert maps and the Silo map.
Post edited May 09, 2012 by Epitaph666
Those 3d pedestrians didn't splash and explode like the sprite ones.
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tejozaszaszas: They have the original games rights, if they want money why don´t they sell them? Dammit!!!!
I don't think you've thought that through. How would that help them make a new Carmageddon game?
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tejozaszaszas: They have the original games rights, if they want money why don´t they sell them? Dammit!!!!
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hedwards: I don't think you've thought that through. How would that help them make a new Carmageddon game?
Well. They are asking for money. If they offer their games here they would get money from them instead of just holding their rights.
I think I'll start off with the 25 buck tier. I like the idea that developers can now fund their games without the constraints of a publisher like EA.
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hedwards: I don't think you've thought that through. How would that help them make a new Carmageddon game?
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tejozaszaszas: Well. They are asking for money. If they offer their games here they would get money from them instead of just holding their rights.
I'm willing to be just about anything that they don't won the rights to those games. At this point those rights are almost certainly owned by the publisher. Especially given how early this game was made in the existence of the studio. It's not unusual for that to happen.

EDIT: I think I misread you originally. They most likely only have rights to make a new game, not sell the old ones.
Post edited May 09, 2012 by hedwards
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tejozaszaszas: Well. They are asking for money. If they offer their games here they would get money from them instead of just holding their rights.
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hedwards: I'm willing to be just about anything that they don't won the rights to those games. At this point those rights are almost certainly owned by the publisher. Especially given how early this game was made in the existence of the studio. It's not unusual for that to happen.

EDIT: I think I misread you originally. They most likely only have rights to make a new game, not sell the old ones.
No, Barnden said that they have them

http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2011/07/25/carmageddon-reincarnation-preview/

"Neil Barnden: We go round and round with the discussion on this one. We do own everything, so if we want to we can – we absolutely own the rights to all the previous code, even the stuff that’s Carmageddon-related that we didn’t work on ourselves. It’s all ours. But I think because it’s so easy to go online and find a copy of Carmageddon from a warez site or whatever, it doesn’t feel to us like there’d be an awful lot of point in just rereleasing the originals. We had talked about it, but on our website now we’ve got guys talking about how to get it running on Windows 7, various patches which make it look nicer and high-res, so rather than try and shut them down and go after the people distributing the game, we just thought we’ve got to embrace that and let ‘em have it. They can do with it what they want, because there’s been a really loyal, core modding community who’ve continued to put stuff out for the games. They’re still going."
Post edited May 09, 2012 by tejozaszaszas
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hedwards: I'm willing to be just about anything that they don't won the rights to those games. At this point those rights are almost certainly owned by the publisher. Especially given how early this game was made in the existence of the studio. It's not unusual for that to happen.

EDIT: I think I misread you originally. They most likely only have rights to make a new game, not sell the old ones.
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tejozaszaszas: No, Barnden said that they have them

http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2011/07/25/carmageddon-reincarnation-preview/

"Neil Barnden: We go round and round with the discussion on this one. We do own everything, so if we want to we can – we absolutely own the rights to all the previous code, even the stuff that’s Carmageddon-related that we didn’t work on ourselves. It’s all ours. But I think because it’s so easy to go online and find a copy of Carmageddon from a warez site or whatever, it doesn’t feel to us like there’d be an awful lot of point in just rereleasing the originals. We had talked about it, but on our website now we’ve got guys talking about how to get it running on Windows 7, various patches which make it look nicer and high-res, so rather than try and shut them down and go after the people distributing the game, we just thought we’ve got to embrace that and let ‘em have it. They can do with it what they want, because there’s been a really loyal, core modding community who’ve continued to put stuff out for the games. They’re still going."
I stand corrected. I wonder if they know about us. Perhaps I'll pledge in seeing as I am interested in having the game and PM them the suggestion that some of us would love to buy the older releases.
Oh, not this again... I don't really like this. They stated their funds are covered and they will deliver the game and now they want the money.

I think they've seen how easy it is to gather the money on kickstarter with known brand, so they jumped in.

Looks like every game that is not coming from EA Acti or Ubi will be kickstarted now. The good thing is, they want only $400,000, so probably it's gonna be shit like new Flatout or something similar.
Post edited May 09, 2012 by keeveek
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keeveek: Oh, not this again... I don't really like this. They stated their funds are covered and they will deliver the game and now they want the money.

I think they've seen how easy it is to gather the money on kickstarter with known brand, so they jumped in.

Looks like every game that is not coming from EA Acti or Ubi will be kickstarted now. The good thing is, they want only $400,000, so probably it's gonna be shit like new Flatout or something similar.
I'm not sure if that's going to be the case with this one. But there's definitely a hype bubble building. Not a true bubble, but at some point it's going to burst and much of the interest will dwindle.
What is to be expected, we will probably see more "we need MOAR money" kickstarters soon, for many games that have "succesfull" kickstarters already.

Costs are almost always higher than originally expected. (especially with inflation)
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keeveek: What is to be expected, we will probably see more "we need MOAR money" kickstarters soon, for many games that have "succesfull" kickstarters already.

Costs are almost always higher than originally expected. (especially with inflation)
Lol, I guess we always need pessimists in this world. You could be right, but I think it's better to hope they will succeed
It's always better to be positively disappointed than the other way around :P
Post edited May 09, 2012 by keeveek
IIRC, they were looking for a publisher in the first place.
They didnt get one (or they didnt like the deals the pubs were trying to make), so they self funded.
Their money ran out, and they needed more to finish the game.

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keeveek: Oh, not this again... I don't really like this. They stated their funds are covered and they will deliver the game and now they want the money.

I think they've seen how easy it is to gather the money on kickstarter with known brand, so they jumped in.

Looks like every game that is not coming from EA Acti or Ubi will be kickstarted now. The good thing is, they want only $400,000, so probably it's gonna be shit like new Flatout or something similar.
A response from Stainless Steel about first two game!
@ James Hogarth, Veav, Wouter de Hoogd, Patrick, Buddy, Chris Kay et al: We are looking into ways we might revive the original two games and get them working on modern hardware. We should have more news on this soon.
And to clarify, we bought the IP rights and copyright to everything in the Carmageddon universe ever, so we can do whatever we want with it.
Come on GOG - they want to do it too - make it happen!!!!!!!