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Posted January 02, 2021
The one thing that bugged me about people who did not like Epic Games was when their main complaint was to do with exclusives to their platform (or the lack of a shopping cart or other conveniences that Steam currently had that Epic being a new store did not). Exclusivity does not bother me and for whatever reason when it comes to Steam (like Half Life 2) it never bothered these same people. Even non-Valve Steam exclusives do not bother these people and their only reasoning is, "but all of my games are already on Steam." So what? They have to start someplace and aside from being a Fortnite launcher or whatever they had to have some reason to stand out from Steam and DRM-free was not about to be it.

There are, of course, plenty of legitimate to dislike Epic but timed or otherwise exclusives was never one of them. (Not that anyone here was saying that, to my knowledge, just a pet peeve.)
Posted January 03, 2021
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yep and those epic exclusives are maybe just for one year and they can buy those on steam anyway
steam exclusives are only available on steam same with ps you cant even play those on your pc ,but still they only bruhuhu about one year exclusive
imho these are just a bunch of whiner kids with steam fanboyism nothing else
Posted January 03, 2021
Chinese investors do not mean Chinese ownership, I don't know why so many people present them as the same thing. That said, yes Sweeney has an interest in keeping his Chinese investors happy. That's really no different from GOG or Steam though, which also are heavily reliant on the Chinese market. China has worked very hard at becoming a global financial power that can influence the world like the U.S. has done for decades, and they're achieving that goal.
Posted January 03, 2021
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Heck no. Just look at their track record. They weaponize the underage kids of the Fortnite community to try to win frivolous lawsuits, along with what you mentioned. Tim Sweeny is out of control and they have no ethics. I would never allow their recent software on my devices. If it doesn't contain malware yet, it probably will soon, and they have plenty of money to hire extremely talented hackers to hide a trojan REALLY well so that the IT security community has a very hard time finding it.

I say this as someone who used to be a fan back in the UT99 and Epic Megagames days. I'm done with them until they find their ethical compass again.

Oh, and then there's the part where the CCP botnets and propagandists are neg-rep-bombing the topic for even asking. That should tell you plenty. Where THAT kind of suppression gets involved, either fight it or boycott it. With Epic, I currently choose the later.
Post edited January 03, 2021 by ChinaGovtIsFascist
Posted January 03, 2021
There is no need to talk about Gogs installer as it's not needed. Epic's is required to use their games, that's a significant difference.

https://www.pcworld.idg.com.au/article/669720/epic-games-store-china-controversy-explained/

My concern regarding Epic is reasonable. And I asked for peoples opinion as a precaution. So I absolutely don't get why a bunch of people down-voted my thread. I don't know exact numbers but I see my OP is "low rated" and I have lost a significant number of rep points, what the hell's up with that? We got some Epic super fan on the GOG forum that can't even stand someone asking about Epic?
Post edited January 03, 2021 by myconv
Posted January 03, 2021
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myconv: There is no need to talk about Gogs installer as it's not needed. Epic's is required to use their games, that's a significant difference.

https://www.pcworld.idg.com.au/article/669720/epic-games-store-china-controversy-explained/

My concern regarding Epic is reasonable. And I asked for peoples opinion as a precaution. So I absolutely don't get why a bunch of people down-voted my thread. I don't know exact numbers but I see my OP is "low rated" and I have lost a significant number of rep points, what the hell's up with that? We got some Epic super fan on the GOG forum that can't even stand someone asking about Epic?
Like I said right above your post... it's not Epic fans, not mostly anyways. It's mostly CCP botnets and paid propagandists neg-rep-bombing anything they notice that is against their political agendas (and Epic is an ally substantially under their influence, so... there you have it.) As long as posts like yours remain low-rated, we know GOG has failed to stop them.
Posted January 03, 2021
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myconv: There is no need to talk about Gogs installer as it's not needed. Epic's is required to use their games, that's a significant difference.

https://www.pcworld.idg.com.au/article/669720/epic-games-store-china-controversy-explained/

My concern regarding Epic is reasonable. And I asked for peoples opinion as a precaution. So I absolutely don't get why a bunch of people down-voted my thread. I don't know exact numbers but I see my OP is "low rated" and I have lost a significant number of rep points, what the hell's up with that? We got some Epic super fan on the GOG forum that can't even stand someone asking about Epic?
There's also this to take into account:
https://www.looper.com/258562/the-shady-side-of-tencent/
Posted January 03, 2021
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StingingVelvet: Chinese investors do not mean Chinese ownership, I don't know why so many people present them as the same thing. That said, yes Sweeney has an interest in keeping his Chinese investors happy. That's really no different from GOG or Steam though, which also are heavily reliant on the Chinese market. China has worked very hard at becoming a global financial power that can influence the world like the U.S. has done for decades, and they're achieving that goal.
yep but for evil deeds
Posted January 03, 2021
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myconv: My concern regarding Epic is reasonable. And I asked for peoples opinion as a precaution. So I absolutely don't get why a bunch of people down-voted my thread. I don't know exact numbers but I see my OP is "low rated" and I have lost a significant number of rep points, what the hell's up with that? We got some Epic super fan on the GOG forum that can't even stand someone asking about Epic?
You're probably just getting downvoted for saying Epic is based in China when they're not. It's silly, but that would be my guess. People are quick on the downvote trigger around here.

Anyway, if there were malware and whatnot beyond the client then people would have found it by now. I also don't think China can do much with your email address and gaming preferences. The only real issue is you're supporting the Chinese government to some degree, when you buy from companies that do business there. However that's so impossible to avoid at this point, I'm not sure it's something to get upset about on a micro scale.
Posted January 03, 2021
Trust nobody, not even yourself.
Posted January 03, 2021
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tfishell: Trust nobody, not even yourself.
why not?
imho those who don't trust others live a miserable life
do you want a miserable life?
Posted January 03, 2021
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After giving this whole post some more consideration, mainly because i do have some concerns with EPIC, namely the giveaways of games .I do would like to add that point as one of minor negatives. While I lack information about the whole makeup of the giveaway system. Is it entirely payed by EPIC could be a question with interesting outcomes for example. The whole way the giveaways are setup not to mention the type of games to be found in those offers seem to indicate that not all is what it seems over there by, with EPIC games
Posted January 03, 2021
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Zimerius: After giving this whole post some more consideration, mainly because i do have some concerns with EPIC, namely the giveaways of games .I do would like to add that point as one of minor negatives. While I lack information about the whole makeup of the giveaway system. Is it entirely payed by EPIC could be a question with interesting outcomes for example. The whole way the giveaways are setup not to mention the type of games to be found in those offers seem to indicate that not all is what it seems over there by, with EPIC games
what? they giving out free games and thats bad ? what ?
are u real? what? oh jesus...
Posted January 03, 2021
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Zimerius: After giving this whole post some more consideration, mainly because i do have some concerns with EPIC, namely the giveaways of games .I do would like to add that point as one of minor negatives. While I lack information about the whole makeup of the giveaway system. Is it entirely payed by EPIC could be a question with interesting outcomes for example. The whole way the giveaways are setup not to mention the type of games to be found in those offers seem to indicate that not all is what it seems over there by, with EPIC games
Interested to understand what your concern with the giveaways actually is?

I assume there is some financial incentive involved. For the "indies" (as much as I hate that term to describe games), they're also getting big exposure and may be able to monetise later products as a results (i.e. "I loved generic asset swap rogue-like shooter 12 from this developer, I'll have to buy generic asset swap rogue-like shooter 13 when it comes out"). For some bigger games, you get the base game but not the addons or DLC - so some people will enjoy the base game and then spend on the DLC.
Posted January 03, 2021
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Zimerius: After giving this whole post some more consideration, mainly because i do have some concerns with EPIC, namely the giveaways of games .I do would like to add that point as one of minor negatives. While I lack information about the whole makeup of the giveaway system. Is it entirely payed by EPIC could be a question with interesting outcomes for example. The whole way the giveaways are setup not to mention the type of games to be found in those offers seem to indicate that not all is what it seems over there by, with EPIC games
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pds41: Interested to understand what your concern with the giveaways actually is?

I assume there is some financial incentive involved. For the "indies" (as much as I hate that term to describe games), they're also getting big exposure and may be able to monetise later products as a results (i.e. "I loved generic asset swap rogue-like shooter 12 from this developer, I'll have to buy generic asset swap rogue-like shooter 13 when it comes out"). For some bigger games, you get the base game but not the addons or DLC - so some people will enjoy the base game and then spend on the DLC.
My main concern would actually be the lack of information concerning those giveaways. Exposure does seem to be a good enough reason.
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Zimerius: After giving this whole post some more consideration, mainly because i do have some concerns with EPIC, namely the giveaways of games .I do would like to add that point as one of minor negatives. While I lack information about the whole makeup of the giveaway system. Is it entirely payed by EPIC could be a question with interesting outcomes for example. The whole way the giveaways are setup not to mention the type of games to be found in those offers seem to indicate that not all is what it seems over there by, with EPIC games
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Orkhepaj: what? they giving out free games and thats bad ? what ?
are u real? what? oh jesus...
well call it a bit of old fashioned but i never went very wrong with the saying, only the sun comes up for free
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