vsr: TL;DR: Governmental =/= Lies. Americans (and Brazilians, as a result) will understand this in future, when they'll pull away from the veil of lies, laid on them by oligarch-controlled media.
zeogold: >implying that the government isn't this same set of rich people trying to control things
I have some bad news for you, friend.
This doesn't mean you should destroy everything, just because someone is rich. If his riches were earned illegitimately, he should be prosecuted. Otherwise your government should work on your laws, to make them "closer to people" (olygarchy won't like it though). In Russian government there are people who earn in a year so much money, that most people will not earn in theirs entire life. This is legacy of the past 200x and 90s years. Process of fixing it is slow (Laws, Propaganda, Laws and Laws and Propaganda ;)). If you hasten it, then so-called 'elites' will stir things up, will try to wreak havoc (USA 'today'). The more correct way would be to control them, to have them by your side, to direct them in a way which will benefit all people and themselves (otherwise they'll just take all the money and run abroad).
This is basically what Putin is doing now. By the way, Trump is copying Putin by demanding localization of manufacturing (Work places! Yay!). ;)
vsr: Listen to your Presidents. Abide the Law. And everything will be good.
zeogold: Have you ever read George Orwell's "1984"? Just curious.
Let's not go over there. -_-* Obama already signed laws, which allows total espionage. NSA's ex-agent (system administrator) Edward Snowden told this to the World. Also, before retiring, Obama signed another law, which allows hacking any computer in internet by order of any American judge.
Brits are doing same stuff. You already live in '1984'.
vsr: America has a good president now (judging by how oligarchy hates him). The more he is hated by oligarchy - the better for simple folks.
zeogold: While I'll admit that "the rich and powerful hate him" is a pretty convincing argument in terms of concept/emotion, it's a terrible one logically. The enemy of your enemy isn't always your friend, it could still very well be your enemy.
Consider this: Trump was already one of these "oligarchs" before he ever ran for the presidency (I can confirm that, culturally here in America, people used his name for years as sort of a modern-day Ebenezer Scrooge for some of the crap he's pulled). What if he's hated just from sheer jealousy? He, by your line of reasoning, could be powerful enough to pull the rugs out from under them, but who's to say he's "for the people" and not in it for himself?
I'm not saying he's a terrible president, I'll reserve that judgement for AFTER I see how he does in office, but I am gonna go out on a limb here and say your arguments, as they currently stand, are terrible.
Not terrible at all. Think yourself. He many times said that USA will not be involved in other country's politics: no revolutions, no invasions (Iraq, Libya, Syria, Yugoslavia, Vietnam, Afghanistan, <God knows what more>...) under his rule. Many times he said that Russia is not an enemy (Hillary, a lackey of oligarchy, said exactly the opposite). What that does mean for oligarchy involved in weapon production? - No Money. There are other spheres involved of course (destroying other country's local industry and agriculture to sell your stuff, etc), so it's not only military industry. Joe Biden's son, Hunter Biden, was going to extract slant gas in Eastern Ukraine, but theirs plan failed. So count gas and oil here too.
About "Not for the people":
Basically you can question every President this way. And what answer you expect to hear? What 'proof' you expect to see. This is childish.
You make decisions before elections, not after, demanding 'proof'. If he is not worthy, don't elect him. -_-*