GamezRanker: Imo it's a pretty fair comparison (work load wise) as it takes a bit of work(or so I have heard) to make pie-rat editions of games DRM free(especially in cases of games with DRM like denuvo/etc).

GamezRanker: It'd likely have galaxy features if it came here, but to answer this bit: a good number of the "old guard" GOG users, for starters, and also some of those who don't want or use such features

GamezRanker: Well it'd likely make some sales, as there are those who don't/won't/can't buy on Steam.....but some other reasons for bringing it here might be things like increasing brand(company) visibility and generating good PR(for dropping the game here DRM free) among the GOG userbase, among other things.

GamezRanker: Agreed, and there likely are some who don't own it yet and/or won't buy it unless it was DRM free/on GOG for bethesda/GOG to sell it to.

GamezRanker: Tell that to some others who make such things, who lock the old versions as "goodies" you need to buy the new one to get. ;)

GamezRanker: Sounds good.....now I will ask: Why give companies more money for the same(more or less) thing over and over? Why buy a new version and not be happy with the old one? :)

Of course all the above said: I don't mind remakes/remasters/etc too much, and even play some on occasion. I just prefer them not to cut content or make changes that end up making it actually worse than the original.

MysterD: About buying new versions of games that are Remasters, Remakes, etc - if they're great and you love a game and want to spend $ on it, why not? Don't you want to see the new version? The big appeal would be improved graphics, audio, the game being easy-to-run out-the-box, etc etc - like say what the Diablo II: Resurrected Remaster is trying to do.

MysterD: I would guess many would love it to be on GOG for DRM-FREE support and stuff, even just for those reasons alone - but do we really think Microsoft is going to allow one their games to hit GOG while they are right now supporting DRM-laced places like Steam and Microsoft Xbox for PC Store and especially PC Game Pass?

MysterD: About old-versions out-of-print or locked behind "Remasters" as extras - publishers and dev's can, unfortunately, do what they want w/ their titles. I don't like the practice of no longer selling old-versions and keeping them out of print....but it's often what they do.

MysterD: Don't you want to see the new version? The big appeal would be improved graphics, audio, the game being easy-to-run out-the-box, etc etc - like say what the Diablo II: Resurrected Remaster is trying to do.

patrikc: I agree with you for the most part, but I don't think Galaxy is superior to Steam, especially at this point in time, just looking at the software itself. Galaxy is a work in progress, there are many things that need attention and dedication. And while it's being advertised as optional, it seems to me they are pushing it more and more, which is not nice. But that's just my opinion, others might see it differently. I wish it would stay optional and they would not lock certain content behind it. Or have it interfere in any way with the offline installers.

TomNuke: Steam Workshop makes GOG look like an inferior platform? Do people actually even use that? I'll take my offline installers instead though, thank you very much.

Outside of social fluff for kiddies who want a "Steamspace" page they can show off with all their stickers and showcases, and other crap (LOL), what does Steam really have that GOG doesn't? Both have the big things like Achievements, Cloud Saving, multi-player, etc, as far as apps go Galaxy is optional and just far superior to Steam. Trading cards? Yeah... I'm sure gonna sweat over a few trading cards that I might be able to sell for 10 cents a piece if I'm lucky. Please... What does Steam have that beats offline installers? Nothing, so that's the mic drop right there.

Steam has more games, which can be a big deal for some, but only because it supports anti-consumer DRM. It's also a rental store though with "life-time" rentals, and Valve has even said that themselves. So maybe I miss out of heavy DRM'd anti-consumer games that are likely filled with other crap like MTX. Isn't that a good thing though?

Sometimes I will go and scroll a ways through the top sellers on Steam, and I honestly never feel like I'm missing much, if anything at all. A lot of real good stuff that I would actually buy is already on GOG, and not once have I ever felt like I don't have amazing games to play here.

Steam having more games is also a big negative though also. Steam is literally the PC gaming cesspool. It's filled with garbage - everything from shovelware to asset flips; tons and tons of porn games... Yeah, I'll pass on that trash store. Steam and it's flea market approach, or it's transformation into this digusting mix of DLsite and itch.io isn't good for anyone, especially not the publishing partners.

I'm sure Square-Enix was thrilled when they see Dragon Quest XI on a Valve advertised monthly top seller list next to Dick Dine Futa girl, or some crap like that...

I completely abandoned Steam, and it's the best decision I've ever made. I love it here on GOG, and I'm finding awesome games that I never would have even heard of on Steam, because I'd have to dig through a landfill just to find them.

I feel like I get more for my money on GOG also. I feel like I actually bought something, unlike with the rental stores, and because of that I'm buying more games.

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Also, I don't see the big hurdle this other guy is talking about when it comes to having a game on different stores. It doesn't seem all that difficult to port, or even emulate Steam features to work on Galaxy or vice versa. That stuff is already happening on both stores, and you likely don't even know it.

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Skyrim not being on GOG is because they don't want it here, and that's it. It has nothing to do with Steam integration. It most definitely could be done, and it would make them money, because there's a a lot of people here who'd insta-buy Fallout 4, Skyrim, and say DOOM 2016 if they were released here.

GamezRanker: I think there's a good chance it'll come here some day, but probably not until they've milked it dry via other revenue streams.

GamezRanker: They can do what they want within the confines of the law, but that doesn't mean we(gamers) should be happy about such things or keep quiet about such either. ;)

GamezRanker: Depends if it's good enough and priced well, but yes...sometimes I might, for the heck of it & to see what's changed/how it plays.....but other times I can and have done without such.

It's like the new iPhones and etc that come out every year...they change one little thing or a few things and make people think they need it, so a bunch of people toss out(or trade) their old phones/etc for new ones....even when the old ones worked fine enough as is.

Lastly, I am fine with remakes/remasters being made and people buying/playing them....I am more against game companies disagreeable practices re: such new versions, including: some of them charging through the roof for the same game(more or less) over and over, some of them making people buy new versions to get old ones, etc.

paladin181: Well, some of the features you're so dismissive of like social platform and Steam Workshop are a big deal to a lot of users. They love having mods at their fingertips to install at the touch of a button (and many mods are exclusive to Steam even in games with non-Steam versions).

paladin181: GOG used to offer a differing "fair" pricing model. GONE
GOG used to offer one price for the world. GONE
GOG used to be consumer-centric GONE
GOG used to offer only DRM-Free content. Still mostly true, but gets less and less true every day.

GOG has no commitment to their principles anymore. They were once a champion for consumer rights and have turned into another corporate predator.
“Battle not with monsters, lest ye become a monster, and if you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you.” - Frederich Nietzsche

GamezRanker: Workshop has some negatives, though: being able to install mods so easily makes people even more dependent on such things in general and less willing(perhaps even less able) to do so or even to learn how to do so themselves, and also imo locking mods to a particular client isn't a good thing either.

MysterD: Best chance Skyrim: SE & Fallout 4: GOTY might hit GOG - probably when Microsoft loses support and/or already have most people using Xbox/PC/Ultimate Game Pass; and when Elder Scrolls VI comes around; and/or when Fallout 5 comes around.


We can keep complaining, petitioning, whining, and whatnot about XCloud, Game Pass, DRM, game-client services, and everything taking our gamers' rights away - but is it really going to stop Microsoft from doing what they do w/ their games and putting it where they put them (i.e. mostly on Steam and Xbox for PC Store)? This madness and these practices are all just going to continue.

But, let's be real - we've been doomed in the rights aspect ever since the invention of DRM, MMO's, online-only games, multiplayer-games stopped really having LAN support, and client-services killed the 2nd-hand market. We all know that the next step is things like GeForce Now, XCloud, and PC Game Pass aren't just options, but actual freakin' requirements for games.

MysterD: They (Microsoft's Bethesda) also going to have to get a team, crew, or something - to mess w/ all of those dependencies of SteamWorks that it has (Steam Cloud and Steam Achievement) and the Bethesda Store. Namely, remove them; comment them out; and/or implement GOG Galaxy stuff for GOG Version.

MysterD: We can keep complaining, petitioning, whining, and whatnot about XCloud, Game Pass, DRM, game-client services, and everything taking our gamers' rights away - but is it really going to stop Microsoft from doing what they do w/ their games and putting it where they put them (i.e. mostly on Steam and Xbox for PC Store)? This madness and these practices are all just going to continue.

MysterD: In terms of actual re-releases, remasters and remakes for rebuys - sure, I might buy some of my all-time favorites for whatever reasons on GOG or whatever (i.e. Vampire: Bloodlines - namely b/c it comes w/ Wesp's Basic Patch equipped and GOG Cloud Saves). For some games, having it DRM-FREE might be enough; right now, Shenmue 3 GOG is probably on my list b/c Steam and Epic versions don't work offline.

MysterD: But, for most other titles, for me - there's gotta be something I'm missing there, something new, or something important here - see what Titan Quest: Anniversary did, adding new DLC's in the new version with Atlantis DLC and Ragnarok; or BG1: EE also having Dragonspear DLC/expansion.

paladin181: I didn't say they were good things, I said it was an advantage to the users and some people love it. Some people love the easy plug-n-play, or click-n-done mentality of Steam. It's not a bad thing for them. They also like all their eggs in one basket (despite a well-known cliché advising against such) and prefer to have everything from one source (until that source gets disrupted, that is). Everything you said was true, and people still love it.

TomNuke: The Steam community at it's core is just forums, which is exactly what we have here.

TomNuke: Steam has turned to literal garbage. I don't like dumpster diving just to find quality games.

patrikc: Argh, now that's a scary thought, Elder Scrolls VI and Fallout 5. Dang.