oh now this is becoming very interesting.... it's hilarious and priceless... thank you for the epic laughter and please, be my quest, go on and continue your show, really.

i just want to see how hard and deep you can dig to bury yourself below ridiculous, and i can tell you indeed have a mighty shovel.

(enthousiast applause)

Maybe it is just me - but I find the stance of anti-bullying to be banal in context of European post-Christian enlightenment.

It is wrong, because while I do not dislike whom I am as stands - I do believe I was born with what is inherently benevolent and resilient about us humans. It was tested, it resisted - but it was not nice, and the intrinsic human qualities do not need testing. Some lose them on the way.

In fact, I am more of a good friend, more firmly a socialist, more firm of a a The Witcher 2 boycotter because I was mobbed to be not me.

I would never abandon my friends, my left-wing ideals, nor my boycott of TW2, even if only the last one has brought me any pain.

The other two are real pleasures, and the TW2 a matter of principle, which is more important than my individual gaming pleasure.

Being a bullying victim, I would feel a sell-out to endorse an unkind punch-down.

Elegant, popular, or openly cruel. But a punch-down is wrong, and elitist, still. And it will probably unsettle some when I say that I love saying that. ;-)

Djaron, why would you not just love your friends, lovers, and gaming?

AND not dismiss bullying victims?

Djaron, I loved my year + in Paris - and France, and still do - I find that France is important influencer in European Union.

So if you try and provoke me to express negative views about my European partners - go for it, poppet.

I love France, Scandinavia and Europe - but also think that good schooling in our continent makes us more successful. As much I am patriotic about the Finnish one - eliminating bullying would make it even better.

So how shall you allocate yer enthusiastic applaud above, then?

Timppu - you are a Finn.

If you imply that women should be subject to national conscription, you would understand why I think that Finns generally should have opinions tempered by universal education.

Do so. But then I wonder - do you not feel deep affection for anyone, or care for some that do?

Say you were always either the alpha or the unoffensive follower in the fold - never a sibling, a cousin, a friend did worse, or suffered?

If you would say "no" - I genuinely think it is making yourself feeling better, more than being truthful. I know that I was invited unto that annual school meeting.

You know. I was a victim of Bullyin for the most of my life. I never liked it, but as time passed I noticed something. There are two ways to deal with it and those are the only two ways to save yoru ass. Either you manage to manipulate the bully into calming down or you intimidate it to the point it no longer messes with you. Asking for help from authorities does not work, it only makes them stronger, learn to defend yourself, if you can't fight alone gather others to work together. Doe not show weakness, that is what they feed on.


Now, I noticed one of you posted some very negative things about The Witcher 2. Well, if you don't like it don't play it, but do not expect it to be banned or to be censorsed. Censorship is a disease and actyually is an act of intellectual bullying.

You see, Bullies are not always physical, heck most of them are not even in direct contact with their targets, most bullies are actually emotional, eintellectual, and social bullies. People who use bully tactics to make others fall in line. People who want books to be banned, who wants views to be censored, people who police speech.

Want to end bullying? Don't take part of it, defend the weak not only by fighting for them but by teaching them to walk on their own two feet and defend themselves. Bullies will ever exist, that is something we must admit, but only by teaching their targets to fight back we will reduce the damage, otherwise they will end up killing others, it has already happened. In my country, MExico in case you are to lazy to check my user prfile (It is OK, I am that lazy too), there are dozens of anti bullying campaigns which do jack shit. They just don't work, children get killed by bullying every year because those campaigns don't work. Even worse, since children are in so much contact with organized crime they have begun to play simulations of criminal acts. Most of the time I say there is no such a thing as rape culture on the west, at least not in an institutional way. But in the low strata, in the criminal subcultures there is, and children in Mexico have been infected by it in some communities, a few years ago two kids of elementary school age got a classmate naked against her will (I am OK with underage sexuality but not with molestation, one thing is "Playing doctor" with your neighbor and a very different thing is forcing her to undress) because they were playing to "Rape" because of how often they see rape in news and hot criminals do normalize it.

Again, I insist, there is no institutional rape culture in the West, but unless we start ending crime syndicates and start depicting rape in the media as if it was common and unpunished (Ironically it is the politically correct media which does that for the sake of propaganda) we will get one, and bullying in schoold will be part of it.

You have a very good point.

i couldnt say for sure... it's only based on experience, logic and common sense; so it could rather be some sort of "offensive shit" all the same... who knows ?

I actually read yer post - through and through.

And unless you really felt that either selling-off or counter-bullying were the only ways - I feel bad.

I never sold off, or bullied. But I suffered cruelly, and thence I am the good friend, a socialist, the Dethmold critic that I am. I do think I would still be - but I wish I could have been more softly thus.

As to homophobia of Dethmold.

Or your "TW2" censorship misrepresentation.

I have never asked The Witcher 2 be censored. If you bothered about my longitudinal posts you will see that I am The Witcher fan; and a homophobia hater.

The Witcher series is one of the best, and very few, PC unto console bridge builders. (I think alike of DA2, perso)

Only that I personally have principles that prevent me from ever playing it again, nor to procure The Witcher 3 unless it is so cheap as to permit but a single play-through.

This is not a call for censorship. My position on GTA:5 Australian debacle was clear - a given shop cannot be forced to carry a product, but Australian gamers should be allowed to procure GTA.

So your "censorship" claim is to make you think more easy, I take it?

I have never asked TW2 or TW3 to be censored generally. I have not meanwhile hidden that I felt that I must - personally, because I love gaming; and want everyone to feel the same.

No to censorship.

But: yes to universal gaming immersion, inclusive of not feeling the love for a game that seems to not love all gamers in return. And saying so.

So, you are telling me that villains should never be homosexuals because that is homophobic? You know, that is discrimination and it is sickening.

Not at all.

My original point at the my OP was that a game developer CD Project Red would have been more admirable to consider the real world context, and not to suck it up one on one.

As one identifying with Mexico, you would not probably know that at the time when The Witcher 2 was published; and played, Poland made negative European headlines for their constitutional court accepting a party insignia that was openly homophobic?

It might seem silly to you - but to me Poland is deeply European.

It maybe might not be perso-scandi as bad as the Swedes or Icelanders hating homos - but it cut deep.

It is not about Dethmold being bad - it is about the clichéd hatchet job. The pimple popping and the slave raping was hardly necessary, IMO.

I did - btw - post that as a BioWare char Dethmold might have passed. A massive downrep. Tell my why!

And also - let it be added - bullying a bit low on yer agenda... as much it is not casually joining the fray, I hope...

But please understand that there is human cruelty why I cannot do as easy as you - and fear you might do worse than is the natural benevolence of a man.

You know, You can make everything homophobic nowadays, and maybe th writers of the game did not care about that because they did not have the same politically correct views on anything so they did no even notice Dethmold was "offensive" because it was not intended to be. I mean, he was kind of cliche, but he was a diferent cliche which I have seen in real life. The misogynist closet homosexual. He constantly badmouths sorcerresses for being women, and he is not openly gay, that is why he rapes slaves.

Maybe if you ceased to see everything as offensive you would learn yo enjoy the world a bit better.

Certainly not.

I think of two cases, mainly.

David Kato - we remember you. You should have lived; and not had your head bashed in.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/africa/targeted-by-gay-hate-paper-then-murdered-in-his-home-2196700.html

Dethmold. I cannot replay TW2.

So if you ask me why Dethmold bothers me - I tell you; because David Kato should not have been bludgeoned to death.

You find me very unusual with that?

Why would you want to kill baby seals? What did they ever do to you?