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Fight Club... when I saw it the first time, I thought it was the greatest movie eva.

When I saw it again recently, I felt it is just pretentious movie trying to be cooler than it really is. Everyone is so COOL and sarcastic and whatnot in the movie. I guess it came out at the right time when everyone was still like gee Reservoir Dogs and Pulp Fiction are sooooo cooooooool (and Fight Club was too).
Post edited June 09, 2016 by timppu
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Crewdroog: boobs don't do much for me *shrugs* the two i have are enough.
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sunshinecorp: You can never have enough.
I mean, as a whole. Two per person are fine, attached. But distributed? No.
hahaha, so like a bed of boobies would just be amazing then, eh?
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timppu: Fight Club... when I saw it the first time, I thought it was the greatest movie eva.

When I saw it again recently, I felt it is just pretentious movie trying to be cooler than it really is. Everyone is so COOL and sarcastic and whatnot in the movie. I guess it came out at the right time when everyone was still like gee Reservoir Dogs and Pulp Fiction are sooooo cooooooool (and Fight Club was too).
HUSH YOUR MOUTH! all those movies are amazing.

:)
Post edited June 09, 2016 by Crewdroog
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sunshinecorp: You can never have enough.
I mean, as a whole. Two per person are fine, attached. But distributed? No.
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Crewdroog: hahaha, so like a bed of boobies would just be amazing then, eh?
It's how I prefer to sleep.
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Crewdroog: hahaha, so like a bed of boobies would just be amazing then, eh?
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sunshinecorp: It's how I prefer to sleep.
hahahahaha

you should write to a mattress factory. you could make a fortune.
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timppu: Everyone is so COOL and sarcastic and whatnot in the movie.
Are they though? I hear this complaint often about it but it never makes much sense to me. Spoiler Ahead.

Nolan is pathetic at the beginning of the movie. A guy who works a job he hates that competely desensitized him and turned him into a cynic. He has to build his Identity around IKEA furniture and the only way he can feel human contact is at revelling in the misery of others at self help meetings. He loathes himself so much he has to create a fantasy version of himself to pick himself up.

Tyler (Brad Pitt) is THE cool guy. He's the friend you always wanted, who can do whatever he wants and fuck any girl he wants, but he still hangs out with a loser like nolan and always covers his back because they bonded. That's the whole point of his character he's not real, there's no Cool Guy Tyler Durden in reality.

Marla seems to be this quickwitted woman with a sharp tongue, but that too is just a front she's an emotinally fragile mess behind that facade who never moved beyond being the edgy girl in highschool.

The Fight Club itself is just a refuge for loosers who haven't hit rock bottom hard enough to become criminals but like Norton don't enjoy their lives either.

I do agree though that the film works much better when you're a teen or just a bit older and you really get swept up in Tyler's persona and his whole Anti-system anti-capitalist thing, before the movie slams it back into your face (the book handled it better, especially the ending but I liked both). A good substite movie is American Beauty which basically also deals with being unsatisfied by your life but with a lot less angst/edge and more actual real adult fears.

And if you are in any way shape or form implying Pulp Fiction still isn't the coolest film ever there's something wrong with you, man.
Post edited June 09, 2016 by WBGhiro
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WBGhiro: Nolan is pathetic at the beginning of the movie. A guy who works a job he hates that competely desensitized him and turned him into a cynic.
In his monologues he is cool (in a cynic way) from the beginning, making such sharp observations about the world around him, like his boss already having his "latte enema", about his own life etc. And when he talks with Marla, it is like they are having some verbal sword fighting, both trying to prove who comes up with the best and most cynic/sarcastic one-liners.

Ok the ex-bodybuilder with big manboobs was not maybe cool, but he was presented as a freak character to the freak show, and he was a side figure anyway.

Maybe that's why I liked The Big Lebowski so much, pretty much all central characters had their own weaknesses and oddities, making them charming. Come to think of it, many Coen movies (Fargo etc.) were kinda refreshing deviation from all the "cool movies" of the time.


I just think Fight Club happened to come out during the pre-WTC Tarantino time when everything was so cool, including Matrix, Tarantino movies, all the various Tarantino-wannabe movies with slick characters who look badass even when they jumpkick a fly in mid-air in their designer sunglasses and leather jackets etc. I was into it all back then very much, but maybe I've just become old and cranky now and see all that as some juvenile shit (that I also happened to adore).
Post edited June 09, 2016 by timppu
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timppu:
I love the Big Lebowski too (And yeah all Coen films I've seen so far were great) but that's like comparing apples and oranges.

I do get what you mean some films just want to be "cool" and just end up being annoying and every character is a narcissist prick (For people who want to suffer watch The Item, or the RLM episode). But for me the movies that were actually great and not just stupid schlock still feel "cool". Hell I even like the new Tarantino movies. What annoys me far more in movies nowadays are characters that the audience is just supposed to identify as cool, but do everything half-assedly or flub their one liners and just go "whatever" and are cool in an ironic way (New DmC comes to mind), that very rarely works for me.

As for Robert "Manboobs" Paulson, god bless Meatloaf, he seems to be just a side character but for me he's one of the reason the Nolans cynicism or coolness doesn't rub me as annoying, is because he isn't manboobs the plucky comedic relief to make the mc look better. He's actually one of the more sympathetic figures in the film.

Well or maybe I'm too young to feel jaded about movies yet.
Have people been invoking the Name of His Dudeness?
White Russians all around!
Cynthia Rothrock even more!
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mike_cesara: Cynthia Rothrock even more!
Cyndia, Carlos, Bruce and Van Damme are my favorites ever! Good on the stage, in life and in person!
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WBGhiro: I do agree though that the film works much better when you're a teen or just a bit older and you really get swept up in Tyler's persona and his whole Anti-system anti-capitalist thing, before the movie slams it back into your face (the book handled it better, especially the ending but I liked both).
I agree which reminds of an excellent review of the book I read recently.

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WBGhiro: A good substite movie is American Beauty which basically also deals with being unsatisfied by your life but with a lot less angst/edge and more actual real adult fears.
That movie is amazing, I watched it a little more than a year ago and it floored me.
That short clips shows and proves the continuing degradation of the human race.
Why do people have to act like animals or some viral zombies?
Don't they have even an ounce of pride, backbone and self esteem?

At first I thought that Pitt Brad was visiting the monkey yard of some obscure zoo...
He is so dreamy.
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Firebrand9: Oh great! Now insipid celebrity gossip has reached the GOG forums. The end is nigh!
No gossip, just Mr. Pitt saving a young girl from a retarded crowd.
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Dalthnock: No gossip, just Mr. Pitt saving a young girl from a retarded crowd.
"We" need rescue from "retarded crowds", too; the same retarded crowds that his wife is partly responsible for polluting my yard and entirely responsible for them having to remain here indefinitely.
Post edited June 09, 2016 by KiNgBrAdLeY7