I am brimming with vitriol at gog and cdpr's behaviour and have been outspoken and complaining with every single negative change, especially gogs pushing of galaxy, but we find ourselves in a real catch 22 that needs to be considered carefully.

Anyone with a large game collection stands to lose out if GOG goes under. There's talk of backing up all games offline but realistically, not everyone has a strong enough Internet connection and if the masses of users start doing that then the servers are going to crawl.

With the way the management scum work now I wouldn't put it past them to just cut down server costs or stop paying them altogether without any warning; leaving our games unattainable.

The sad truth is the greedy management will survive, they will still have a wad of money in their banks at the expense of us and their staff. GOG might not and the drm scene will crawl back under it"s rock and just be a rare niche for the odd game.


China is unlikely to change anytime soon, they're just this decades Russia. It wasn't that long ago China had their revolution comparatively speaking and they are still desperately trying to cling onto the idea that it left them better off.

It takes a long time for a large portion to mature past blind patriotism (America has been independent hundreds of years but isn't there yet either and still relies on indoctrination.)


I'm sure there will be some daft comments stating how I'm an apologist or licking China's honey farts or some such nonsense but I suspect most of these are from the coat tail riding attention seekers that seem to crop up at every new scandal or popular 'cause' to show just how superior they are.

misspell in the topicname

agree boycot just doesnt work, especially as no real alternative for drm-free games , so if you want those you have to use gog mostly

Stupid phone and stupid gog for not using a real word (I know it used to be an acronym but now it means nothing whatsoever :p)

Not sure I can change a thread title?

> Anyone with a large game collection stands to lose out if GOG goes under. There's talk of backing up all games offline but realistically, not everyone has a strong enough Internet connection and if the masses of users start doing that then the servers are going to crawl.

No offense but, did the DRM-Free even matter to you if you didn't download your purchases to begin with?

Anyway, I was done with Game of Thrones a while ago already so no biggy for me.

If GOG goes under, I am not losing any game, because games here are DRM-free, and my game collection rests safe in my two computers and in an external backup drive. Both windows and linux installers.

This is one of the biggest draws of GOG: I wouldn't have started buying here if I couldn't play my games when the company goes belly up (I don't expect that to happen soon, but eventually, every company disappears).

Even if I don't have the best internet connection, I have already backed up all my games . Every time I buy a new title, I spend some minutes backing up and updating the games I care for. I strongly think every GOG customer should do the same, because if we all start trusting The Client and The Cloud, we would be telling GOG that we don't care if they start relaxing or even ditching their DRM-free core principle.

So now that you bring this to the table, this could be a good time to start backing up your collection.

The problem isn't the Cloud, the problem is spineless companies giving in to censorship at the first sign that China is unhappy. And the fact that you have backed up your games (which is a great idea) is only protecting your past favorite games. GOG giving in to Chinese censorship means that from now on whenever they choose to host a game or not, they will be self-censoring our games to please an authoritarian regime, which is hurting your future games.

I don't have any delusions that deleting my account is going to make any difference. But if I'm going to get fucked in the ass, I don't want to be fucked by a company pretending to be a "Truly gamer friendly DRM-free online gaming platform"

I still don't understand why people don't just backup their game after the first download. It saves you time and GOG bandwidth as well as eliminating the need for any single rush or surge to download everything at one (also reducing issues vs ISP if you have a bandwidth cap). That's literally the primary advantage of offline installers vs "download & delete, re-download & delete, re-download & delete" clients. I'm simply going to link to what I wrote the other day to better explain why "I'm buying fewer games on GOG" that many people are saying, isn't just a single issue that people over the past 24hrs have been incorrectly assuming it to be:-
https://www.gog.com/forum/general/gog_its_time_for_you_to_reflect/post13

The primary advantage I have of offline installers is no DRM and can use on machines I choose to keep disconnected from the internet (such as my arcade machine & Win XP machine.) Space has always been a premium for me and if my files are on a reliable site they take low priority. I have a lot of irreplacable stuff taking up hard drive space.... ok I probably have terabytes of raw files and video files I could go through and delete but again, I don't have the time to sit and do it. Generally in the past I keep certain media on certain hard drives, when that's full I remove it and get another (I have a hotswap bay for when I want to go back to them.)

Unfortunately I can't afford to add more storage right now because of all the chaos going on with covid along with moving home, new baby and Christmas. I have an old 2tb I can backup to for now but backing up to hard drives is no more reliable than having things in the cloud.

I whole heartedly agree that this has all been going on for a while though (I've been complaining about various changes for years, then just largely gave up on the forum.) Management has taken a good thing and utterly slaughtered it. GOG was never going to have the massive growth they foolishly imposed on themselves but the business could have turned a reasonable yearly profit if they'd kept it simple and expanded slowly instead of the constant throwing out of half baked ideas (and clients).

Yes, boycotting is the answer.

If we don't then we are making the decision way too easy for GOG.

If there is literally NO reaction when they let China dictate what games they can sell, then obviously they will just go with it to gain market share in China.

The result is the rest of the world having to live under the Chinese system, where everything has to be approved by the communist party. No thanks.

Sure it is.

The only reason I was still buying games on this site almost exclusively was because I granted gog some favour for being drm free and generally customer friendly.

After some runins with mods here and now the shitstorm with the CPR basically running the show I have to draw the line.
I'm not backing up anything for the time being as I consider my gamecollection here already lost.

I'm depressed about this situation though as I also had good memories with some of the mods, Judas Iscariot and Enigmatic_T specially, but I haven't seen Judas here for ages and in my experience gog went downhill ever since E_T left gog.

While I found the whole missmanagement situation about CP2077 bad for all the hard work that was put in by a lot of people, I have no personal feelings about this and the whole situation can still be mended (see NMS for example).

Just wanted to recommend gogrepo.py. Might be tricky to set up depending on your computer experience. Once you have it set up you can just leave it to download all of your files and easily run it again whenever you need to check for new or updated games.

I have always maintained a few very important backups, but not everything. I've tagged what I need to backup and am begging it all downloaded. All of my games combined are less gigs than cyberpunk and its first patch.

That said, I'm not boycotting gog. I don't think there's anybody who has done much better (as in treating customers with respect). However, I've been concerned about their business model for many many years.

If you sink almost all of your cash flow into a single major game, you will eventually strike out. Tastes change, technical shortcomings happen, and recessions strike.

They still have millions of happy customers. And cdpr usually releases a stinker which then gets patched quickly and then enhanced. They still have an opportunity to be the good guy. Our to be a fair business. Or an okay business.

The fact is, gog and cdpr make many sales because of how they treat customers. Their products are usually inferior in some ways. Slower download times, janky combat, board games not quite play tested enough times. But it's easy to forgive with drm-freesness, free dlc, commitments to fix what's broken without charging their customers, full and complete games, a smart and enjoyable community (for the most part - you know who you are).

I've been advocating gog for years. I've bought friends and family their games (gog and cdpr). I've rooted for them. Because they root for us.

But from what I'm seeing, greed may have snuck up on them. Greed causes you to do dumb things. But for all of their goodwill, I think they can still earn back our trust by getting it right. Trust is built when over a long time, words equal action. So this is their time to recover. I wish them luck. But in the meantime, I'm backing up my games.

That's a wonderful way of looking at it, I very much hope you're right!