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tfishell: I think most people would count that as DRM but I suspect many users don't really care about multi-player in general. (and multi-player tends to be gutted from older releases anyway rather than be ported, like TR2013 and XCOM 2)
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Truth007: Yes but then you get a half assed version of a game.
I don't speak for everyone naturally. However, GOG has no leverage since there's very little money to be made here. In general, it seems you can get an older single-player "AAA" game here with online stuff cut, or nothing at all. (granted we haven't gotten much from "AAA" publishers in a while anyway) Personally I don't care about multiplayer or achievements, and, imo, the main concern should be games missing patches/updates (or single-player DLC or goodies like soundtracks).

Dusk got full multiplayer and even an exclusive map, but hardly anyone plays it anyway, and I think Dusk on GOG is now missing single-player content (at least extras) compared to Steam.
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Wishmaster777: Let's say that I enjoy their mental breakdowns and panic over this thread, and the struggle in their malicious attempt to sabotage it and lock it.
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tfishell: "Mental breakdowns"? You sound unhinged dude :P (which I guess if you're going for Joker "we live in a society" ... all right) Working at GOG is a job, not some conspiracy or crusade or whatever. Pepe Silvia

If they wanted to, GOG could easily lock this thread if they wanted, but they allow this to stay up.

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(as an aside, are people allowed to create "Boycott Steam" threads on Steam, or does that break TOS? Or we do worship Steam since they're infallible and we'd never question their decisions? ;)

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GamezRanker: they can still "bump the messages/criticisms/etc up the chain of command", so to speak.
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tfishell: I do concur with this.
Your reply is a total mess.
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I think the multiplayer issue would be solved if developers would stop relying on 3rd party software all the time for it. It's like the days of building the co-op or LAN code into games are dying out. Developers either let a 3rd party seller handle it or the game turns into a manipulative shitty experience because it was built around monetization.
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Wishmaster777: Your reply is a total mess.
lol. Take some time for reflection, dude.

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jamesplayinggames: I think the multiplayer issue would be solved if developers would stop relying on 3rd party software all the time for it. It's like the days of building the co-op or LAN code into games are dying out. Developers either let a 3rd party seller handle it or the game turns into a manipulative shitty experience because it was built around monetization.
I agree. We'd need some big-name big-budget developers to lead the way though, who can afford to implement this and have influence / set a trend, and that seems unlikely to happen.
Post edited February 20, 2022 by tfishell
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Wishmaster777: Your reply is a total mess.
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tfishell: lol. Take some time for reflection, dude.

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jamesplayinggames: I think the multiplayer issue would be solved if developers would stop relying on 3rd party software all the time for it. It's like the days of building the co-op or LAN code into games are dying out. Developers either let a 3rd party seller handle it or the game turns into a manipulative shitty experience because it was built around monetization.
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tfishell: I agree. We'd need some big-name big-budget developers to lead the way though, who can afford to implement this and have influence / set a trend, and that seems unlikely to happen.
I believe it's due to it being convenient for devs to use what steam provides. Sometimes you get lucky here and there and some let you create servers or not rely on steam. It seems that indie devs are more likely to provide this.
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tfishell: lol. Take some time for reflection, dude.

I agree. We'd need some big-name big-budget developers to lead the way though, who can afford to implement this and have influence / set a trend, and that seems unlikely to happen.
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Truth007: I believe it's due to it being convenient for devs to use what steam provides. Sometimes you get lucky here and there and some let you create servers or not rely on steam. It seems that indie devs are more likely to provide this.
Yes. Some indies might if they have the technical skill, or budget and a belief in the importance of this. But I do still think it'd require some big company with big resources to set the trend in the opposite direction we currently see, with values that consider open multiplayer important.
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tfishell: Working at GOG is a job, not some conspiracy or crusade or whatever. Pepe Silvia
(underlining mine)

Yet some amount of GOG staff(either of their own volition or at the behest of higher ups) seem to push various causes/ideologies/etc through game releases/sales/etc......it doesn't take a Pepe Silvia type to see that much.

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tfishell: If they wanted to, GOG could easily lock this thread if they wanted, but they allow this to stay up.
So then we should pray they don't alter things any further? o.0

Silliness aside, I don't think GOG would ever close their "designated talking space" for this topic......as i'm guessing others would likely (like with prior topics) either branch out and make new threads and/or move their criticism to sites that GOG cannot control.

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marcob: I think it's better to loudly point out the most outstanding/over-the-top cases, as a deterrent for publishers to cross some basic respectful lines.
I think you missed the word not right before the word cross in the reply bit above......otherwise I agree.
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tfishell: Working at GOG is a job, not some conspiracy or crusade or whatever. Pepe Silvia
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GamezRanker: (underlining mine)

Yet some amount of GOG staff(either of their own volition or at the behest of higher ups) seem to push various causes/ideologies/etc through game releases/sales/etc......it doesn't take a Pepe Silvia type to see that much.
You'll have to be more specific - Hitman GOTY, the porn, games with leftist causes, neglected installers pushing Galaxy, ... ? (also by crusade, I moreso meant people thinking the average low-level GOG staff member has the devotion to a "DRM-free crusade" like some of the members here.)

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tfishell: If they wanted to, GOG could easily lock this thread if they wanted, but they allow this to stay up.
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GamezRanker: So then we should pray they don't alter things any further? o.0

Silliness aside, I don't think GOG would ever close their "designated talking space" for this topic......as i'm guessing others would likely (like with prior topics) either branch out and make new threads and/or move their criticism to sites that GOG cannot control.
If they were to close this topic they'd presumably make any discussion of "boycotting" against the forum rules. Besides the bad PR that might result (like Hitman GOTY) from such an action, I suppose some people might be so pissed they'd dedicate time to creating new accounts and spamming topics, not sure; doing so would seem mentally unhinged to me. Also, criticism has moved elsewhere already to some extent, like the Zoom discord.

I don't think GOG will close this thread either, but I feel like they would if they actually felt "threatened" financially by the content in the thread.
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Wishmaster777: Your reply is a total mess.
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tfishell: lol. Take some time for reflection, dude.
What a mess.
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Somebody has bursted like a light bulb, and has a mental breakdown. Good, keep this thread going.
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Their down-vote bots and derailers couldn't stop this thread, now they're trying to use false flag spammers instead.
Pathetic.
They even include tells like "a deep", and "acis".
Can't wait to see the cleanup..
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"Eat at Mickey D's."
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Notice how the reputation on both accounts remains -5 for the whole day, despite having all posts downvoted. Gog, Gog, what are you doing, Gog. You are being sloppy.
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Someone is unhinged; 599 posts in approximately two and a half hours. There have been several attempts to get this thread locked before, but none like this one.
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Usually not one to ask this in internet land but uhhhhh...aren't there mods to address this sort of thing? I'm not bothered by anyone having opinions or disagreeing with me (even distastefully) but this seems like a clear case of 'off topic discussion'.

Thread is related to grievances with GOG and individuals actions/discussion about that. If you want to run up in the forum shouting 'la la la la la I can't hear you' I'm sure there's a nice swingset and ballpen nearby that we can direct you to, but you're in the wrong place at the moment.

Edit: Fixed a typo.
Post edited February 21, 2022 by Mplath1