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HappyPunkPotato: So fellow boycotters, what are you planning to do now we're in our second year? I think if GOG recommits to DRM-free and starts behaving like they care I'll start doing most of my game shopping here again. If they admit they don't really feel that strongly about it and add an easy way to see (and avoid) which games have DRM I might buy a few things here. If they carry on as they are I probably won't buy anything here again.
Until you deem that you want something then you'll go against your own convictions by buying it. Then, to justify that you still have convictions, you'll engage in Boycott # 3... then 4... then 5... etc...
Post edited January 10, 2022 by Krogan32
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Yeah, but boycotting is so easy; you literally have to do nothing.
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HappyPunkPotato: So fellow boycotters, what are you planning to do now we're in our second year? I think if GOG recommits to DRM-free and starts behaving like they care I'll start doing most of my game shopping here again. If they admit they don't really feel that strongly about it and add an easy way to see (and avoid) which games have DRM I might buy a few things here. If they carry on as they are I probably won't buy anything here again.
Second year? Bah, you still have to catch up! I will enter my third year in April; check my profile signature! And, since GOG will obviously not change their trajectory (and that means more Galaxy) and since I started my own boycott because of Galaxy, I will not invest more of my money into Galaxy, as almost all of last few years of GOG-s money went into Galaxy!
What an Abomination that turned out to be! That's the stuff of nightmares!
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HappyPunkPotato: So fellow boycotters, what are you planning to do now we're in our second year? I think if GOG recommits to DRM-free and starts behaving like they care I'll start doing most of my game shopping here again. If they admit they don't really feel that strongly about it and add an easy way to see (and avoid) which games have DRM I might buy a few things here. If they carry on as they are I probably won't buy anything here again.
Likewise. My goals aren't much different from yours, and neither is my planned reaction to Gog going back full strength to DRM-free.
However, if they declare DRM-free is "officially not that important after all" I believe it will have different effects on my habits: I will be more tempted to pirate a Gog game than to buy it (I don't think I would do either of them, but it means whether I pirate or not they'd get zero income from me); and I'll be too annoyed to even check these forums again.

BTW, even if late I say you shouldn't waste your keyboard on Krogan32. Look up the bizarre arguments they kept throwing to justify Hitman's DRM and the replies they got in this thread. They're nothing but a troll, and a pretty bad one at that. This post sums it up. After Gog pulled Hitman and thus proved his arguments were empty he crawled back under his bridge to wait for another shot at getting this thread locked.
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HappyPunkPotato: So fellow boycotters, what are you planning to do now we're in our second year? I think if GOG recommits to DRM-free and starts behaving like they care I'll start doing most of my game shopping here again. If they admit they don't really feel that strongly about it and add an easy way to see (and avoid) which games have DRM I might buy a few things here. If they carry on as they are I probably won't buy anything here again.
I've been hardline boycotting GOG since before I knew this thread existed, and only ever bought one game since, which was McPixel on Humble (I was hoping to eventually buy more games on GOG, but they seem to be strangely uninterested in carrying McPixel, so that one seemed reasonable to get elsewhere).

The price for getting me back as a customer is at minimum to 1) start communicating for real with (not just to) their customer base and 2) make some noticeable effort to try and address at least some of the issues mentioned here. The specifics on what would be enough depends on which issues they decide to address and the manner in which they do so. It's too complex to flesh out here and I won't really know it until I see it anyway.

If that doesn't happen in the next couple of years I'll likely give up entirely on GOG. I've downloaded all of the games I own here, so I'm all set for that already.
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GlorFindel: I started my own boycott because of Galaxy, I will not invest more of my money into Galaxy, as almost all of last few years of GOG-s money went into Galaxy!
What an Abomination that turned out to be! That's the stuff of nightmares!
I don't think I have seen someone put it this way before. That is really sobering. I have suggested at times in this topic that it may be worth "holding one's nose" and buying simply as a practical matter to get the offline installers, since it is clear to me at least they are not being prioritized as the future of GOG. But, if we think of it as "every dollar (essentially) goes to Galaxy" such purchases could arguably be hastening the collapse, as it were. Thank you for putting forth the really interesting and sobering food for thought.

Not going to address the one user directly, but here's my bid asking the mods to indeed keep this thread open. Quite obviously, whether people are following through on their boycott to the backseat drivers' satisfaction has no bearing on the quality of the topic.
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joppo: BTW, even if late I say you shouldn't waste your keyboard on Krogan32. Look up the bizarre arguments they kept throwing to justify Hitman's DRM and the replies they got in this thread. They're nothing but a troll, and a pretty bad one at that. This post sums it up. After Gog pulled Hitman and thus proved his arguments were empty he crawled back under his bridge to wait for another shot at getting this thread locked.
Except what you linked doesn't disprove anything. The game did sell extremely well. However, there was enough of the vocal minority that led to GoG removing the game. Congrats to that. However, it doesn't refute any of the facts that I stated. But, hey, it's easier to throw out insults instead of actually discussing the topic just like you did, amirite? Typical.
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Time4Tea: I'm not sure it would count if you had bought everything you wanted and were pretty much done with the site anyway. If you would have continued buying more games, but don't want to because of dissatisfaction with GOG's decisions, then I'd call that an effective boycott and would be happy to add you to the list.
If they somehow acquired the license to sell DRM free versions of SoulCalibur VI and Tekken 7 then maybe I would come back. Not going to happen since they're both owned by Bamco.
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HappyPunkPotato: They seem to have lost interest in me anyway!
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GamezRanker: Don't Jinx it! o.0 ;)

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HappyPunkPotato: And I agree about the arguments over exact definitions. The one I'd like to know is GOG's exact current definition of DRM-free.
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GamezRanker: Well said....as for me, cut back my spending a bit more and only got 2 games(one for someone else) for around $3 total during the winter sale**.....also not buying much more for the time being except maybe cheap personal "must haves"/games for others during sales.

(side note) If some think i'm not a "tru-cotter" cuz of that, my answer is: "whatevs"
(**yeah, it's due in part to having a bunch of games, but also due to some various things re: Gog recently)
When I see people talking like you are here, it brings to mind infantilization. That's not how adults think and talk. Adults have the capacity for self-discipline and self-awareness, and value honesty and integrity, and are not so foolish as to dilute the meaning of a word for the sake of a "consensus" that is too weak to achieve anything of significance. In essence, you're playing "boycott" the way children play house; which is certainly your prerogative, but I think the respectful thing to do would be to ask a mod to put a game tag on the thread.

Later.
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GlorFindel: Second year? Bah, you still have to catch up! I will enter my third year in April; check my profile signature! And, since GOG will obviously not change their trajectory (and that means more Galaxy) and since I started my own boycott because of Galaxy, I will not invest more of my money into Galaxy, as almost all of last few years of GOG-s money went into Galaxy!
I was probably still thinking GOG was a great new find when you started your boycott! I also thought an optional client would be cool until I realised it was slowly getting less optional.
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joppo: BTW, even if late I say you shouldn't waste your keyboard on Krogan32. Look up the bizarre arguments they kept throwing to justify Hitman's DRM and the replies they got in this thread. They're nothing but a troll, and a pretty bad one at that. This post sums it up. After Gog pulled Hitman and thus proved his arguments were empty he crawled back under his bridge to wait for another shot at getting this thread locked.
I thought the name was familiar! I really can't understand people like that at all.
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Hexchild: I've downloaded all of the games I own here, so I'm all set for that already.
Same here. So glad the people who made tools like gogrepo.py have shared them here or it would've been such a pain!
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Time4Tea: Well said and I intend to do exactly that. I am not going to respond directly to any more posts arguing about semantics and especially those that are trying to paint me as a 'liar' or a 'hypocrite'.

What I see is a handful of people who are not on the boycott list, who don't have the conviction to take concrete actions to make a stand for the principle of DRM-free. And yet, they are trying to rock the boat because they feel that we are not hardline enough, that they can lecture us about how to boycott 'the right way'.

Well, we don't need backseat drivers. We don't need a set of 'Boycott Consultants' to tell us the right way to do it. If you are not on the list and taking concrete action to stand up for your principles: you can type until your fingers fall off - I don't care what you think.
Well, I think some also dislike the "leader" of this "movement" not boycotting to a standard/level they think you should, and they don't want to be associated anymore as a result. That said, the above is well said for the most part.



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N1c3_0n3: (usually because all the forums are censored to hell but that's a topic for another day).
Not gonna talk about this topic other than to say: well said/agreed

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N1c3_0n3: In short, please, add me to the sympathetic list. I'd be honored to.
Welcome :)


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illiousintahl: Cry me a river baby; nothings stopping this train!
Toot toot? ;)


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joppo: ....and I'll be too annoyed to even check these forums again.
I do hope that day never comes to pass...yer a good sort and I love reading a number of your posts :)
Post edited January 11, 2022 by GamezRanker
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(Thread preface: only replying to this one post as this user is often a good sort and their post isn't to the level of some of the others....after this, i'm going back to ignoring)
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richlind33: When I see people talking like you are here, it brings to mind infantilization. That's not how adults think and talk.
You know me rather well...do you think I care much how people perceive the words I use?

That aside, I find this seeming attempt to "sit upon an intellectual high horse" and "tell others how non-adult/non-boycotting they are" by yourself to be somewhat childish as well......case in point:
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richlind33: ....but I think the respectful thing to do would be to ask a mod to put a game tag on the thread.
In other words, take some of your own words from your latest post here to heart and reflect upon them awhile.

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One dislikes the thread and the direction it's going in? One wants to civilly talk about such or about the topic? All fine
One insults** other users and their level of thread participation in a neg/rude manner, which starts to derail the thread? Not fine
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Post edited January 11, 2022 by GamezRanker
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I wasn't going to "butt in", but it's clear it's not going away.

Taking into account that not everyone is an native English speaker, and that we've agreed upon a loose definition in the past pages of this thread, I think it's foolish to divide this consumer protest and boycott over important issues due to semantics.
I do think that people who continue to buy many games while still on the first page list are hypocritical, but we're all working towards the same goal, and division only hinders that. So those that oppose and leave this are equally hypocritical. Their will and fortitude might not have been enough for a prolonged surcease of gaming purchases, and are looking for a way out. They should just say so, instead of appearing to remain "virtuous".
Or, they could attempt to make another thread which more accurately reflects their values and intents. I'd join that one too most likely.
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Vendor-Lazarus: I wasn't going to "butt in", but it's clear it's not going away.

Taking into account that not everyone is an native English speaker, and that we've agreed upon a loose definition in the past pages of this thread, I think it's foolish to divide this consumer protest and boycott over important issues due to semantics.
I do think that people who continue to buy many games while still on the first page list are hypocritical, but we're all working towards the same goal, and division only hinders that.
Seconded.

((HAH, downvote that!))
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I do have a question to wards the people who boycott, but still buy games.
How ist GOG supposed to know that you are boycotting them if you are still buying games? How should GOG know that you are buying less games than without your „boycott“?

I for one will not give GOG one dollar/cent when I‘m on on the bycott list.