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General discussionBoycotting DRM and Game Censorship on GOG, 2021-2022(5216 posts) (5216 posts) 
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Posted January 10, 2022
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HappyPunkPotato: They seem to have lost interest in me anyway!
Don't Jinx it! o.0 ;)

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HappyPunkPotato: And I agree about the arguments over exact definitions. The one I'd like to know is GOG's exact current definition of DRM-free.
Well said....as for me, cut back my spending a bit more and only got 2 games(one for someone else) for around $3 total during the winter sale**.....also not buying much more for the time being except maybe cheap personal "must haves"/games for others during sales.

(side note) If some think i'm not a "tru-cotter" cuz of that, my answer is: "whatevs"
(**yeah, it's due in part to having a bunch of games, but also due to some various things re: Gog recently)
Post edited January 10, 2022 by GamezRanker
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Quote from mrkgnao, page 9, 1/6/2021:

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_Auster_: I'm limiting my purchases on GOG to games with huge discounts and DLCs for games I already own, so does this count as boycotting? If not, at least I'm sympathetic to the concept.
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mrkgnao: Any form of boycott is welcome. I believe people should decide for themselves where they draw the line. Some prefer to buy absolutely nothing, some --- like you --- decide to significantly reduce their spending. Both are valid forms of boycott.
I don't expect everyone to have read every post on the first 10 pages of the thread, but it's worth noting that, in fact, it was mrkgnao who started compiling the boycott list, which I then copied to the first post. I'm not sure I said so explicitly, but I agreed at the time with his looser and more 'permissive' interpretation of the term 'boycott' and I have tried to carry on the list in that inclusive spirit ever since.

My point being, again, that absolutely nothing has changed here since the very first birthings of 'the list'. Go back and read through pages 9-11 - I don't recall anyone making a fuss about it back then in Jan 2021.
Post edited January 10, 2022 by Time4Tea
Posted January 10, 2022
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Time4Tea: Quote from mrkgnao, page 9, 1/6/2021:

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mrkgnao: Any form of boycott is welcome. I believe people should decide for themselves where they draw the line. Some prefer to buy absolutely nothing, some --- like you --- decide to significantly reduce their spending. Both are valid forms of boycott.
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Time4Tea: I don't expect everyone to have read every post on the first 10 pages of the thread, but it's worth noting that, in fact, it was mrkgnao who started compiling the boycott list, which I then copied to the first post. I'm not sure I said so explicitly, but I agreed at the time with his looser and more 'permissive' interpretation of the term 'boycott' and I have tried to carry on the list in that inclusive spirit ever since.

My point being, again, that absolutely nothing has changed here since the very first birthings of 'the list'. Go back and read through pages 9-11 - I don't recall anyone making a fuss about it back then in Jan 2021.
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Posted January 10, 2022
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HappyPunkPotato: It seems to me that all of the people complaining about the boycott must be worried it's causing GOG trouble otherwise it seems like a huge waste of time for you to keep reading this thread and complaining about it.
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GamezRanker: I'd just ignore that user....they seem to be trolling to derail the thread, and will likely keep doing so if you keep replying....that said(to all):

I think we all should ignore those nitpicking/arguing about semantics/etc(like what constitutes a boycott), as it's only derailing the thread.
Projection 101. Seriously, you should stop calling others "trolls" when that was a Class A flame bait.

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HappyPunkPotato: They seem to have lost interest in me anyway!
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GamezRanker: Don't Jinx it! o.0 ;)

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HappyPunkPotato: And I agree about the arguments over exact definitions. The one I'd like to know is GOG's exact current definition of DRM-free.
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GamezRanker: Well said....as for me, cut back my spending a bit more and only got 2 games(one for someone else) for around $3 total during the winter sale**.....also not buying much more for the time being except maybe cheap personal "must haves"/games for others during sales.

(side note) If some think i'm not a "tru-cotter" cuz of that, my answer is: "whatevs"
(**yeah, it's due in part to having a bunch of games, but also due to some various things re: Gog recently)
So, you are claiming that you are boycotting without actually boycotting just like Time4Tea, HappyPunkPotato, and many others. Therefore, your boycott is faux, which is why the moderators should close down this thread. Boycott literally entails 100% or nothing not, "Oh, I'll buy something here and something there." I know, because I have boycotted Steam since June 2018. Not a single game or DLC bought from them since. I have conviction.
Post edited January 10, 2022 by Krogan32
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GamezRanker: I think we all should ignore those nitpicking/arguing about semantics/etc(like what constitutes a boycott), as it's only derailing the thread.
Well said and I intend to do exactly that. I am not going to respond directly to any more posts arguing about semantics and especially those that are trying to paint me as a 'liar' or a 'hypocrite'.

What I see is a handful of people who are not on the boycott list, who don't have the conviction to take concrete actions to make a stand for the principle of DRM-free. And yet, they are trying to rock the boat because they feel that we are not hardline enough, that they can lecture us about how to boycott 'the right way'.

Well, we don't need backseat drivers. We don't need a set of 'Boycott Consultants' to tell us the right way to do it. If you are not on the list and taking concrete action to stand up for your principles: you can type until your fingers fall off - I don't care what you think.

I am doing this for the ~120 people who are boycotting and making a stand. If any of those on the boycott list have any concerns about this or how the boycott thread/list is being run, please let me know, either here or in a PM. So far, very few of them have voiced any concerns.

What I will do though is add a note to the first post, to clarify that we are (and always have been) using a somewhat loose and permissive interpretation of 'boycott'. So as to avoid future misunderstandings.
Posted January 10, 2022
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I have made the requested changes to the lists.

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ReynardFox: I asked in PM to be moved to the sympathetic list a week ago, but that didn't get a reply, so I'll ask again here. Either move me to sympathetic, or remove me overall, your call. I'm not sure if it matters at this point either way however, as now that I've been made aware that the thread creator can't abide by his own rules, this whole thing has been irrevocably damaged, a house of cards just waiting to fall.
I was extremely busy through December and must have forgotten to reply to your PM. I apologize for that. I have now moved you to the sympathetic list. Thanks for your support, as always.

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Time4Tea: ...
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apehater: hey Time4Tea, what do you think of extending the reasons for the boycott in your op?
It depends what the proposed extension is. I'd be reluctant to add more things to a list that a lot of people have already signed up to, without 'putting out the feelers' to see if there is widespread support for it. The current list has two main top-level themes: DRM and censorship.

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Apples90: Does it count as a boycott if I wasn't planning to buy anything? I got all of my favourite old school games on here when the world affectively ended in 2020. At this point I'm more concerned about clawing my freedoms back than what game I'm going to play during the winter holidays.
I'm not sure it would count if you had bought everything you wanted and were pretty much done with the site anyway. If you would have continued buying more games, but don't want to because of dissatisfaction with GOG's decisions, then I'd call that an effective boycott and would be happy to add you to the list.
Post edited January 10, 2022 by Time4Tea
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Krogan32: Projection 101. Seriously, you should stop calling others "trolls" when that was a Class A flame bait.


So, you are claiming that you are boycotting without actually boycotting just like Time4Tea, HappyPunkPotato, and many others. Therefore, your boycott is faux, which is why the moderators should close down this thread. Boycott literally entails 100% or nothing not, "Oh, I'll buy something here and something there." I know, because I have boycotted Steam since June 2018. Not a single game or DLC bought from them since. I have conviction.
You seem to be suffering some kind of comprehension issues. One game for someone else because I agreed to before starting to boycott is not "Oh, I'll buy something here and something there."

Only boycotted Steam since June 2018? I've been boycotting them since sometime before 2010 without buying a single thing. I have at least 8 years more conviction than you!

I never usually call anyone a troll and prefer to give the benefit of the doubt but judging by your lack of anything new to say and deliberate provocation I'll take your lead and GamezRanker's suggestion and stop feeding you. Perhaps we could reconvene in a couple of years and see if I'm still winning the ultimate boycott challenge?
Posted January 10, 2022
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Time4Tea: Quote from mrkgnao, page 9, 1/6/2021:

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mrkgnao: Any form of boycott is welcome. I believe people should decide for themselves where they draw the line. Some prefer to buy absolutely nothing, some --- like you --- decide to significantly reduce their spending. Both are valid forms of boycott.
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Time4Tea: I don't expect everyone to have read every post on the first 10 pages of the thread, but it's worth noting that, in fact, it was mrkgnao who started compiling the boycott list, which I then copied to the first post. I'm not sure I said so explicitly, but I agreed at the time with his looser and more 'permissive' interpretation of the term 'boycott' and I have tried to carry on the list in that inclusive spirit ever since.

My point being, again, that absolutely nothing has changed here since the very first birthings of 'the list'. Go back and read through pages 9-11 - I don't recall anyone making a fuss about it back then in Jan 2021.
I agree. Nothing has changed since day one. This thread has always essentially been a support and information thread for all people boycotting GOG, each doing it for their own valid reasons and in their own valid manner.
Post edited January 10, 2022 by mrkgnao
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Krogan32: Projection 101. Seriously, you should stop calling others "trolls" when that was a Class A flame bait.

So, you are claiming that you are boycotting without actually boycotting just like Time4Tea, HappyPunkPotato, and many others. Therefore, your boycott is faux, which is why the moderators should close down this thread. Boycott literally entails 100% or nothing not, "Oh, I'll buy something here and something there." I know, because I have boycotted Steam since June 2018. Not a single game or DLC bought from them since. I have conviction.
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HappyPunkPotato: You seem to be suffering some kind of comprehension issues. One game for someone else because I agreed to before starting to boycott is not "Oh, I'll buy something here and something there."
Considering I responded to GamezRanker, not you, it's clear as day who has "comprehension issues" here, and it's not me. Anyways, you are projecting as usual.

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HappyPunkPotato: Only boycotted Steam since June 2018? I've been boycotting them since sometime before 2010 without buying a single thing. I have at least 8 years more conviction than you!
Very good... that's a boycott. What you are doing on GoG is NOT a boycott as you are buying things from GoG. See the difference?

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HappyPunkPotato: I never usually call anyone a troll and prefer to give the benefit of the doubt but judging by your lack of anything new to say and deliberate provocation I'll take your lead and GamezRanker's suggestion and stop feeding you. Perhaps we could reconvene in a couple of years and see if I'm still winning the ultimate boycott challenge?
By your statements, in a two year time frame, you'd be on your 31st boycott of GoG.
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Time4Tea: What I see is a handful of people who are not on the boycott list, who don't have the conviction to take concrete actions to make a stand for the principle of DRM-free. And yet, they are trying to rock the boat because they feel that we are not hardline enough, that they can lecture us about how to boycott 'the right way'.
Like how you, HappyPunkPotato, GamezRanker, and many others are still buying games from GoG despite "boycotting" them. Seriously, this is the prime definition of projection.
Post edited January 10, 2022 by Krogan32
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Hi, Time4Tea.
I usually don't sit on the global forums so this thread is new for me. (usually because all the forums are censored to hell but that's a topic for another day).
Didn't read the whole thread of course, but I am still amazed how you managed to consistently put up valid points for years and not get mentally tired.
Unfortunately, people don't follow whoever is right, but whoever is stronger. Right now the GOG's investors are stronger than it's single user (or ~100 users), so people are mostly downvoting you and lowkey licking moderator's asses since it's the path of least resistance for some.
I'm glad this thread exists (Devotion issue alone is enough reason to justify this thread's existence) and that we are still allowed to at least discuss this issue......yet.
I'm open to the idea that GOG might not even be the bad guys here, for example it's entirely possible that points made in this very thread are debated (or at least heard) in their offices.
In short, please, add me to the sympathetic list. I'd be honored to.
Post edited January 10, 2022 by N1c3_0n3
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Krogan32: Considering I responded to GamezRanker, not you, it's clear as day who has "comprehension issues" here, and it's not me. Anyways, you are projecting as usual.
Oh come on, it's so difficult to not reply to someone who keeps being wrong all the time! Replying to someone who was talking about me and not to me has nothing to do with comprehension. What exactly is it that you think I'm usually projecting in our few, brief interactions anyway?
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Krogan32: Very good... that's a boycott. What you are doing on GoG is NOT a boycott as you are buying things from GoG. See the difference?
Bought one thing that I promised to buy before boycotting vs. buying things. See the difference?
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Krogan32: By your statements, in a two year time frame, you'd be on your 31st boycott of GoG.
I see your maths skills are just as good as your reading skills. At most I would've just started my 4th boycott if I carried on shopping at the same rate. However, if we're judging by my statements then I will obviously still be on this boycott.
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Krogan32: Like how you, HappyPunkPotato, GamezRanker, and many others are still buying games from GoG despite "boycotting" them. Seriously, this is the prime definition of projection.
Like I said before, I'm not "buying games". If you fail to get that right in your next post it will be definite proof that you're a troll (or just a bit thick - if that's the case, I apologise).

Sorry everyone else for replying to this person again, I'll try to restrain myself in the future :-P
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Krogan32: Considering I responded to GamezRanker, not you, it's clear as day who has "comprehension issues" here, and it's not me. Anyways, you are projecting as usual.
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HappyPunkPotato: Oh come on, it's so difficult to not reply to someone who keeps being wrong all the time! Replying to someone who was talking about me and not to me has nothing to do with comprehension. What exactly is it that you think I'm usually projecting in our few, brief interactions anyway?
Sorry, but your deflection attempt has failed. You claimed I had "comprehension issues" yet stated that my message was for you when it was not. Thus, you were projecting. I know... I know... as you have proven it is difficult for you to comprehend facts and reality.
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Krogan32: Very good... that's a boycott. What you are doing on GoG is NOT a boycott as you are buying things from GoG. See the difference?
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HappyPunkPotato: Bought one thing that I promised to buy before boycotting vs. buying things. See the difference?
I see you don't see the difference. It's OK, we all know that your boycott of GoG is faux.
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Krogan32: By your statements, in a two year time frame, you'd be on your 31st boycott of GoG.
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HappyPunkPotato: I see your maths skills are just as good as your reading skills. At most I would've just started my 4th boycott if I carried on shopping at the same rate. However, if we're judging by my statements then I will obviously still be on this boycott.
"Boycott" > # 1 = Not a boycott. Math is great.
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Krogan32: Like how you, HappyPunkPotato, GamezRanker, and many others are still buying games from GoG despite "boycotting" them. Seriously, this is the prime definition of projection.
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HappyPunkPotato: Like I said before, I'm not "buying games".
Yet you bought games. I destroy your whole point with that simple fact. No matter how many times you deflect, project, and justify, you are not boycotting GoG since you bought from GoG.

Anyways, I, again, formally request that the moderators shut down this thread as it is based on fakery, and is losing many of it's subscribers due to this fakery.
Posted January 10, 2022
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So fellow boycotters, what are you planning to do now we're in our second year? I think if GOG recommits to DRM-free and starts behaving like they care I'll start doing most of my game shopping here again. If they admit they don't really feel that strongly about it and add an easy way to see (and avoid) which games have DRM I might buy a few things here. If they carry on as they are I probably won't buy anything here again.
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N1c3_0n3: people are mostly downvoting you
I don't think people are downvoting (at least not masses of them), it's some buttmunch using bots.
Post edited January 10, 2022 by tfishell
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I like to imagine every down vote is someones tears. >:D

Cry me a river baby; nothings stopping this train!
Post edited January 10, 2022 by illiousintahl
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