mrkgnao: You seem to be under the impression that this thread is about Devotion. It's not.
Timboli: Well as usually the first item mentioned on a list is the most important one, and that this thread and others have been seemingly kicked off by sentiment related to Devotion, that is what I focused on.
Well it's not anyone's fault that you made an assumption based on one person's post and applied it to several others who didn't say they think EXACTLY the same, now is it?
I actually believe there's a good chance that releasing Devotion isn't even feasible anymore. I mean, it was if they reacted quickly, but by now the damage they made to their own reputation is so big it's like they have a wound reaching necrosis. If they release it now they would barely restore their reputation, while at the same time getting on the news everywhere for
finally doing the right thing (which would lead to many people who aren't aware to know how they spent weeks doubling down on the wrong path, thus mitigating their cred restoration). And if the CCP bot army's threats were empty before, they might not be now with Gog getting too much attention on the game they want to see buried. So in the end I think NOW the risk might be high enough.
Even before I wouldn't consider the not-release the breaking point. Despite releasing the game being right thing to do even in the political angle, there's an economic factor too. Within that angle it's entirely within them the decision whether to carry the game or not. But that doesn't excuse the frankly ridiculous, blatant, pathetic lie of it being a request of "many gamers". And THAT is a thing I have a MAJOR issue with. Being lied to like that and used as an excuse is not something I take lightly, and I want them to address this or lose whatever money I was going to spend here.
Timboli: So it seems to me you are just punishing yourselves really, and not GOG.
A couple days ago I referenced the
Montgomery bus boycott led by Martin Luther King, where the black community went 381 days without using the bus to protest against racism. 381 days of personal inconvenience for themselves, but as you might know, it worked.
Protesting against something is often inconvenient to the protester, but if everyone stays sitting on the couch doing nothing I can guarantee that the only changes they're going to see are for the worst.
Timboli: Well what I said in that regard, wasn't really for those people.
Timboli: And the ZOOM Platform is another store... and maybe they are just seeking to get attention or take advantage of animosity toward GOG.
Well, duh. It's not their fault if Gog squanders their customers' respect.
Welcome to the Free Market world. If ZP offers a better service than the competition, they will grow and Gog will shrink. If Gog doesn't want that to happen it's in their hands, they just have to stop the loss of customer trust. Which is exactly what we're campaigning for.
And if it gets to a point where ZP is hands down the better choice... why would anyone still buy here? Why feel attached to this store? Go to the place where you're treated better.
Timboli: At least GOG were open, if perhaps not fully truthful ... that's more than you can say for the other stores silently ducking the issue. Parents tell white lies to their kids all the time
What alternate universe did you came from?
Or alternatively
Whatever it is you're smoking, I'm sure it's going to sell for a ton of gold if you find the right, ahem, "distributor".
Here, allow me to display how "truthful" Gog is currently being towards us. Let me remind you of
this thread where SmollestLight affirmed
We created GOG GALAXY 2.0 ... Since its launch, the most requested new feature has been the option to buy games not only from GOG.COM, but from other platforms as well, straight from the GOG GALAXY app.
The most requested new feature? Really? Allow me to pull the Community wishlist.
https://www.gog.com/wishlist/galaxy#search=buy or
https://www.gog.com/wishlist/galaxy#search=purchase Find me a single wish with 10 measly votes, heck, five votes! That comes even close to doing what this blatant obvious lie claims is the one thing
most desired by their customers.
Unless the request came from the same "many gamers" that demanded that Gog don't sell Devotion...
The truth is that Gog is pissing on our heads, telling it is raining and many of us are not buying. You should think if that is a behavior you want to encourage. I know I don't.
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Timboli: If you don't buy the games you would have at GOG and don't buy them elsewhere, you are penalizing their providers. You could also easily be sabotaging the DRM-Free movement, especially if those providers don't get enough sales at GOG ... The offset of doing such, could well weaken GOG ...
Yeah, no. Don't try pulling the "think of the [publisher's] children" card. They can sell on any other store too. Maybe they could join some store where DRM-free isn't just marketing BS? If they sell a game I want on Zoom I guess that's where they will get my money from instead.
Besides, if it hurts then these providers have more of a reason to see Gog's stupid decisions for what they are, and to use their weight to push Gog to correct their course. I know of at least one indie developer that decided not to sell their game on Gog after their Devotion blunder. If many do the same, it's certainly going to shake Gog's resolution of ignoring the valid criticism.
The offset could well weaken Gog... Good. So it's in their interest to react and ensure that that doesn't happen.
If the boycott gets big they will be forced to react, either going back to being a purchase-worthy store or by coming out in the open to clarify that
"Yeah, we've decided to fully embrace the dark side and would rather be the store you don't want us to be". In which case I would resign myself to pack up and leave to never come back. But at least
then they would actually be open with us.
I have never seen a boycott get any success if their concern is "lets make sure it doesn't get big enough to even as much as inconvenience them". Have you?
Timboli: I really think you should preserve boycotting for if and when GOG do finally go too far, where you will have many more, including myself joining you
The problem is, it is subjective where the line is drawn for everyone.
I saw people that drew that line several blunders ago. Mine were drawn now with these lies (including the CP2077 ones I didn't mention above), the encroaching of DRM and the worldwide censorship to appease one man's fragile ego.
But you don't get to dictate where the line is, except for yourself.