I'm sure it'll turn up in some bundle at some point, well before I exhaust my backlog.

for sure :) keep your eye open :D its worth it.

No. Again wrong.
I would like to have the quality and values of 2007-2008.

I'm with you. i completely stopped buying games altogether (no steam due to DRM, no GOG due to CCP). I plan to keep strong and I urge others to do the same. it may be a little bothersome in the now, but if this is not nipped in the bud, the consequences will be much more dire in the future.

Seeing That GOG have not addressed our concerns I'm about to start the process of deleting my GOG account. They have had ample time to fix the problems we have tried to get them to pay attention too. No response over Devotion coupled with DRM now starting to infest GOG (Cyberpunk 2077 locking awards behind Galaxy in a single player game) I don't have any optimism for GOG course correcting and no way of guaranteeing If I actually own the games I buy on here. Hope to be proven wrong but at the moment, It is not looking too good.
Just submitted my cancelation request with the following message to them:
Hi

Regrettably I am requesting that my account to be deleted. This is due to the following reasons:

1. Devotion being pulled in spite of promising it would be released and making us out to be the reason when it was actually a politically motivated (with the additional pull of finances) move:
As I have stated on the forms we do not like politics interfering with what gets put into store fronts. I for example use gaming as an escape from that depressing topic. Pulling Devotion brought this topic into my head as it explained why this got pulled. My worry is this, If you pull one game because of this how far will this go.

2. The encroachment of DRM into Single player games.
A big worry of mine is the fact that a form of DRM was placed into Cyberpunk 2077.
At the boot up of the game there is a my rewards section which requires GOG galaxy. This is worrying as one of the founding principles of GOG was that it was a DRM free site. I want to be able to own the games I buy. With DRM that is no longer the case. This is likely to increase piracy as that could soon become the only way to play certain games along with emulation for example the timing battery of the PS4 could make the console unplayable in the future when the PS4 PSN gets shut down meaning games could be rendered unplayable by legal means. Not saying I'll pirate any games but can understand why people would do it though.
Also the response on the DRM front was very concerning:
"All games available on GOG have offline installers available. We stay in touch with the partners and do our best to keep them up to date. However, video games continue to evolve with many titles offering online modes, cosmetics, and incentives for completing certain actions by players. This might be subjective, but as long as these additional features and rewards do not affect the single-player offline experience in a major way, we believe that the developers and publishers should be free to design and sell their games in a way they choose." My concern here is thst this could get a great deal worse. For example a vital par of a main story line gets locked behind a DRM. This would be very frustrating. Imagine for example in Portal 2 just as you go to confront Wheatly a message pops up stating "you must pay £25 to play the final boss".

3. The seeming lack of response of GOG:
9.000 people want Devotion back on the store form and nearly 6 months on you have not responded.
It seems as though you will not respond to our concerns on DRM ether apart from that concerning response.

I went to GOG in May 2020 because I could own the games I buy and non of the political nonsense. within 6 months that statement aged poorly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zxCknHqf60&ab_channel=DanielAllenDanielAllen

Just a little shtick:
When you delete your not-in-use account you literally free up their server space and reduce their "mandatory bandwidth required for any given user to be able to access their storage (games) at any given time without delays" (bandwidth user reservation for a lack of a better term on hand).
This might be seen as guerilla tactics by some - but if you want to send a message you should probably keep your dead account alive, just without any use, that way YOU don't care while they don't get reduction of costs.

As evident by their original "Devotion" cancelation twitter post - NO.
But nontheless they seem pretty keen on using memes for marketing of their own creations as well as a ruse to escape any consequences by casually throwing in a joke as a misdirection and to pose as "the cool guys".

I would just say that while there are "games with some DRM" in the site, the vast majority in the library does still provide some offline entertainment with an option for installer downloads that is a very rare practice nowadays.

A few of the games were pretty much out of their hands and you can't blame them for accepting the titles for profit. I would recommend a newer tag to indicate such games like Gwent and those mentioned by the TC. But for GOG to continue hosting games so old and trying to get them to run on newer systems? I'd still praise and support them for that. If my support can push more older games to get released as opposed to those newer games with online requirements. I'd say that's not a bad trade off.

It's sad that GoG had to back off the release of Devotion, but that's the cost of keeping a ship afloat. "That" market is deemed to be growing in power and profit, while their rivals are in political and economic turmoil. As a business, you will feel a bit more "confident" in your investment there. As long as you play nice. Well, I honestly hope Red Candle Games can get back after this. And the best we can do than rant on these companies who cater to a oppressive regime is support Red Candle Games straight up. Promote the game, point people to the right direction to where they can buy it.

Also, having a Winnie the Pooh profile pic and then demanding for Devotion is just funny considering that certain person who is compared to said character doesn't like the game ha ha. If intentional, bonus points for the TC.

It’s funny that you should mention that tag for not drm free system, as other stores went that way, and have now disappeared, or become inconsequential. Shinyloot is a good example, they introduced drm’d content after a while, and then shut down. Humble is nothing more than a steam key peddler now. The reason, and only reason, GOG is still here is because of the drm free. Unfortunately moving away from that is why there is so much of these types of things happening now, if they allow drm or online only they are no longer worth shopping at over the cheaper, larger catalog rivals.

With all due respect, one of THE main selling points of GOG always has been "DRM-free, EVERYTHING, ALWAYS, with no exceptions" (not in these exact words but with this exact meaning).
It was stated in the numerous places throughout the store, with "100% DRM-free" tags all over the place, CDPR Group (mother company of GOG) even created a special website to taunt competition while boasting how they are "100% DRM-free themselves".
Some time ago the "100%" was removed and only "DRM-free" stayed - it was done covertly so to this day many users have still not noticed the change.
Also, while majority knows that some games are in fact NOT DRM-free they STILL DO have "DRM-free" denomination on their product cards - which tbh - imo it's hard to not see that as an open lie to customers therefore falling under some customer protection rights (in SOME countries).
Maybe the move from DRM-free is not bothering YOU personally, but GOG user veterans here can easily see this sudden departure as the beginning of the end for this platform.

Also, "your support" - that's funny - that's noble and all, but in fact you DON'T control how your money is being used by this company.
Maybe your intent of spending here even after realizing some of the predicaments happening here is to "support the good side of things" but they may very well use your money to strengthen "the BAD".
They are infact pretty likely to do so.
After all we haven't seen too many incentives for old/good games in last considerable amount of time (relatively speaking, because there have been SOME, but considerably low number nontheless) while there has been a very noticable influx of "controversial" decisions that by all means required money to surface (ergo: take THIS for "where the money goes").

The sheer POSSIBILITY of GOG using the money wrong ways, for example for reinforcing what we don't agree with, is making us here decide to cease (or drastically reduce) spending (some of us anyway) to avoid that predicament - avoid our money being source of GOG's controversial doings - we don't want to fund things we don't agree with, therefore we decide to not spend here anymore.
It's that simple.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but afaik GOG as a STORE business is not officially active on "that" market to this day.
They are by no means present there officially - and let me remind you (or enlighten you if you don't know) that being there requires some sort of special permit of the gov.
To my understanding to this day GOG does not have any form of digital store presense there (not counting chinese version of Gwent that seems to be running independently from any digital platform (?), therefore maybe not even subject to GOG's distribution but *maybe* in fact directly published by CDPR themselves there).
So a "oh it's so that we don't loose our business position in that market" cannot even remotely be an excuse (not even invalid one) since GOG does NOT have an official presence as a store there, at least as far as I know.

As I said before at least few times already:
what GOG does is openly risking loosing their existing ESTABILISHED international well-founded userbase with ACTUAL provable income (from said userbase) for what is LITERALLY a market in which they (GOG) have so far no OFFICIAL store presence, a market with POTENTIAL *unguaranteed* higher income, with the catch being very restrictive market rules and "you are out on first offense" ruleset.
It's a trait of a serial gambler going for quick adrenaline shot.
Even if that would pay off it would still come at a cost.
The gambler would loose their credibility in their current employer's eyes (as a person willing to "risk it all for a moment") while GOG would loose their entire reputation in eyes of their international userbase.
They (GOG) cannot have both with their current attitude.
So it's a one way ticket.
One step to far and we (existing userbase) will start to crumble off rapidly (we are already just not that fast).
And it's not like their "desired market" is stable - it's a literal business minefield - going where the money lies isn't always the best choice - it's the way of a black market merchant, which imo, GOG looks more and more like other time - ditching their principles on the brim - not caring about reputation - be careful what pot you dip your fingers in GOG, you may burn yourself.

So then what, in your opinion we should cave in and "escape" usage of "non desirable for certain political party" depictions as to not "anger certain individual(s)"?
WHY?
The pooh is by no means a one meaning depiction. It can mean a lot of things.
And it's first and foremost most prominent and the original meaning is a kid's cartoon sugar-addict character.
Besides we are present on what is STILL a platform outside of *direct* control of the "red-yellow" country and therefore there should not be any pressing on users to not use "politically controversial" avatars depicting kid cartoon characters.
WE are not the problem. Why should WE get out of the way?

Well on that regard, I do often weigh in myself. Do i get the GOG version or get it from the "other" sites? And usually, I just pick what the other site doesn't have. But I do prioritize GOG more often than not if they have the item. Also, consider my other point, which is that GOG still provides older titles in their library not available on the other markets. It's part of their selling point and as I mentioned they have pushed for trying to make them playable for the newer OS.

Lets not forget the other major selling point, and it's that they still offer downloadable installers of those games as much as they can. This was in itself THE selling point.

If we consider that "Hey <Company> is selling DRM games now, its gonna fail eventually", wouldn't pushing for a boycott also affect it and hasten the downfall? I mean hey, I hate DRM as well. But come on, most titles mentioned by TC aren't exactly owned by GOG and if it includes a DRM-ish feature they can't really do anything about that especially if it's new. Much like the other older games here with their multiplayer. And you can't really say that not adding any new titles would not negatively affect the store. Just imagine all other companies just pushing for DRM. GOG just can't deny them to be added on the store.Especially if it's the hot new game of the week/ month. It's pretty much going to kill GOG. I mean if you can give a competitive way of getting more people to your store if the vast majority of the triple A companies are dishing out DRM games. I'd be very impressed.

Now we can consider that these DRM and online only titles as some factor affecting to the image. But do you see them hosting multiple MMOs? How about those .25 cent titles? GOG still prefers quality and tries to be it's own personality that it has established. In regards to Gwent, do you really think it's profitable and good for the image of CD Project to have your own game only available to your rival site and not on your own platform?

You mentioned those sites have changed because of DRM. But really, it can be a lot of factors. But if you want to see and keep that site alive they need support. And a boycott pretty much doesn't help at all. It promotes a negative impact to the site and can affect the sales too. And in turn, they will more likely end up trying what most fear the most which is change their brand to the "cheaper" way and be a more similar clone to it's competitors.

Also seriously, if its those games that are bothering most people can't we just ignore it? I have been avoiding and not caring about those kinds of games myself and they have not affected my experience at all.

This isn't as much as their selling point just an actual legal claim - it's literally in their TOS - the "Galaxy is ALWAYS optional" part - if they would suddenly stop delivering offline installers they would get major legal consequences of not fulfilling contract on their side of things - the contract being the version of TOS live at the time of purchase (ergo if they change TOS it does not change your rights to past purchase, if they stop allowing you to download offline installers for past purchase they are under legal fire from the get go).

Yes they can. They did in the past.
The "covert DRM" only really started creeping in in the last few years.

No, what's going to kill them is totally caving in and giving up with their only unique selling point. They fill in a nishe, and that nishe is their only saving grace, as otherwise they are not very competetive in any way at all.
Most people are here primarily because of DRM-free.
Many of us already sensed the wind of change and are in the process of retreating from the platform.
You may not understand it due to various reasons, but there isn't much point in buying here short of purely for the DRM-free part or for games that are not sold anywhere else (tho consider that those are usually the ones that were once available in physical box distribution so TECHNICALLY you CAN still get them outside of GOG).
If GOG abandons their "COMPLETELY DRM-free" selling point - majority will flee the platform - there is simply no special incentive to buy here for most.
Regardless of what some people say, and regardless of some people's wishful thinking, this platform is lacking functionality, has terribly dated CMS, does not listen to community feedback ANYMORE, and is not very competetive short of their designated DRM-free niche.
It's their main and only avenue.
If they stop doing that and "start selling normal things like any other store" then people will regard it no longer as "this store that specializes in DRM-free" just "yet another store that does not really add anything worthwhile".

You can certainly try and then wait and see where you wind up landing when not paying attention to things around you.
"Not bothering" is a cowardly move - it means you don't care - you can't both care and "not bother" - pick one - and if you don't care then don't be suprised how things change over time.

This smells heavily with implication that by boycotting we are "hurting the platform" or "accelerating it's downfall".
Both are false and are being joyfully repeated by some people who don't know any better.
You're also heavily implying it's OUR FAULT that GOG has made these questionable moves. You couldn't be possibly more mistaken - it's only after GOG started doing controversial sh*t that people started boycotting - not in reverse.
I have said enough on the matter already so go read my previous post. Don't force me to repeast myself:
https://www.gog.com/forum/general/boycotting_gog_2021/post2436

And it's why I recommended a clear disclaimer and change it for those with DRM. Most of them aren't actually under their control and they can't exactly remove them on the fly. And you can't very well not add the "Flavor of the month" to your library, Especially for triple A titles. You risk losing new people joining and purchases in favor of your competitors.

Also I am a said veteran member of GOG (April 2012).

The bad? I would like to ask how many DRM titles are there in this platform compared to the non-DRM? And how many of those non-DRM titles are available anywhere else? I'm not particularly worried since the games I am getting are pretty much DRM-free and that's it. I get what I paid for. Does it ruin my image of GOG? No. For one, I don't like most of the triple A games because of DRM. And I remember them for "Good OLD Games - No DRM"

Actually, if you consider their actions as to why they banned "Devotion" it is pretty clear. They do want to tap that market in the future. Or at least, there have been ways to get GOG there illegal or otherwise. Would they risk moving or accessing to another market? It is entirely possible. Sony did it already by having moved their headquarters to the West. (After a hefty power struggle) Would CD Project do it at the risk of their established fanbase? If the profit, outweighs the losses? Definitely. And yes, I haven't forgotten about the "special permits" (it's basically the "play nice" part. I should know, being close proximity to the giant. I have seen more shenanigans that they've been doing than most of you outside our region) I mean really, what other reason would there have been for GOG to suddenly back out? If they were the only ones who hosted "Devotion". It would be massive profits and publicity. And they willingly backed out of it. That is saying something.

Also these "risk taking" have been going on for a lot of companies even before these. To them, it is the more profitable route. Would they crash and burn? Who can say? To them everything is a gamble after market research. Do you know what they say is the most commonly used business language? I hear it's not English at all. It's Cantonese.

And me referencing Winnie the Pooh is pretty much about "that communist leader". I was just having fun with the image since we oh so love to mock them with it as well.

Well. Old game are not a priority, it’s not been good old games for a long time. Steam provides drm free games, as does epic. That’s not the most unique thing now.
I do agree, CDPR need to be separate from GOG, they clearly have completely different ideas. Cyberpunk was designed from the ground up as a multiplayer, micro-transaction marketplace. Gwent is much the same. These ideals do not gel with drm free.
We can ignore it, eventually you will not need to ignore it though as it will fill the store, it’s inevitable.

Oh, to add, my problem is not just this devotion, or the addition of gwent, it’s is many things. Mostly detailed in other threads like:
https://www.gog.com/forum/general/provide_a_full_and_complete_changelogged_download_system
Lack of decent compression, lack of patches, changelogs. Broken website, forum. The list goes on. None of which has ever been addressed, and like this thread isn’t even acknowledged.