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Breja: You're not correct at all, you're splitting hairs about semantics to avoid adressing the actual substance of the post when what I meant was clearly obvious to anyone who can pick up on sarcasm. So hooray for you indeed.
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qwixter: Nice. The ol' "it was sarcasm" excuse.
"Excuse" for what? You're still hanging on to that one word as if its use was the relevant part of the discussion, and not, I don't know, everything else in my post. I'd think the sarcasm in that post was glaringly obvious, and everyone who knows me on this forum will tell you I'm sarcastic all the bloody time, but really none of this matters. What matters is that you're deflecting, because your post was a load of nonsense, and it's easier to split hairs about how I used the word "supposed" than to confront that fact.
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OldOldGamer: I read a lot of smart posts, full of theories and incredible business models.

For me the boycott comes from far away and have simple reasons: reasons that GOG created by itself.
I'm quite of the few early customers, Not overly active on the forums. But a good buyer, I would say.
In the years, they betraied everything the setup for themselves.
One by one, GOG disappointed all its original promises.

From the purpose of the store (Good Old Games to just GOG... how stupid is that) to offline installer, fixed pricing, bonus contents for game and so on.
Additionally the quality of services is spiralling down with a subpar website. Crap forums. Crap new or old releases. Missing patches. DRM appearing in one form or the other. Pricing going up while I can see how in other stores prices are going down.

After 1200+ games bought on this store I would like the company to get a hold of itself and start operating as it was (is...) meant to be.
Restore some of the values lost along the road and make their word value something as things stands, whatever they say, is obviously "a best effort".
Well said!
100+ pages?? OMG... at this point nobody can even follow this anymore, even if they wanted.

I just want to chime in to say that DRM mechanisms will deeply hurt Linux users, since DRM software is notoriously known to cause problems on Linux systems, they never run properly on anything outside of Windows. Not even in Mac systems, since Mac users make use of Wine to play games too. So that decision hurts the Mac share of the market too (your wealthier customers LOL think about that LOL)

Now, 2nd, if the installer starts to break too, then it's just impossible. One of the advantages GOG always had over the competition was the presence of a simple, functional installer that never breaks. (specially useful, again, for Linux and Mac users since it doesn't depend on DotNet or other fancy libraries...) Upgrading just for the sake of upgrading, when there's no need for it, I'm sorry but it's not the best decision. Not always "newer" means "better".

Game companies should be more worried with things like Game Design, actually keeping the interest of their customers, and not on DRM mechanisms. If your concerns is piracy, piracy will never cease to exist, piracy existed since the days before Microsoft Windows, piracy existed on IBM PC's in the 80's, piracy existed on Commodore, Apple II. Why would you think you would be able to stop piracy now? Pirate users are not even a significant portion of the market share anyway, less than 10%? Gonna risk your entire business in exchange of 10% or less? OMG, sorry but it's just hilarious to me.

To me, game companies that choose to support this new model will hurt their reputation and end up losing market share. Don't you think that users these days are the gullible easily-manipulated ones that the market had on early 2000's. Things have changed. Information spreads much quickly now.

To the creator of this thread: I feel your pain, man. Don't waste more time or energy into this thread, it's obvious that the puppies will settle for the bones they've been chewing from their owners, there's no use in arguing with people like that. But that doesn't mean you are alone in thinking like that, there's silent opposition at all times.
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Time4Tea: I would like to announce that I have decided to boycott GOG for 2021. This is in response to several decisions the site has made over the past year that I believe have been deeply misguided:
Could you create a strawpoll and edit it into your 1st post on the 1st page?

Here, I'll do it for ya, you just have to paste it there:
https://www.strawpoll.me/45320589

2nd poll to see how many people are on Windows, Mac or Linux:
https://www.strawpoll.me/45320597

Strawpoll is a service that doesn't require log in, in case you're wondering =D No hassle
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FeelingShred: 100+ pages?? OMG... at this point nobody can even follow this anymore, even if they wanted. [...]

To the creator of this thread: I feel your pain, man. Don't waste more time or energy into this thread, it's obvious that the puppies will settle for the bones they've been chewing from their owners, there's no use in arguing with people like that. But that doesn't mean you are alone in thinking like that, there's silent opposition at all times.
No need to read 100+ pages to get into this thread. The most important posts are the posts of OP at the beginning anyway. All after that is to sum it up quickly, a lot of posts saying why the boykott is pointless, others staing the boykott isn't pointless and some side discussion what DRM even is? Is it cosmetics tied to an launcher, is it the restraint to launch a game without the internet all together? And much more. Lately the future of GOG as a company was discussed, their possible revenue, if or if not they sell GOG to some other company and who that might be.

In sum: This Thread can help you to let some steam off, and talk about all the things you think should be changed by GOG and you can join the visible group of people who (at least claim) to boycott the store finacially. But all of these people have their very unique reasons not necessarly tied to the complaints OP has.

So now you should be kinda up to date what was going on in the last 100+ pages.

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Time4Tea: I would like to announce that I have decided to boycott GOG for 2021. This is in response to several decisions the site has made over the past year that I believe have been deeply misguided:
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FeelingShred: Could you create a strawpoll and edit it into your 1st post on the 1st page?

Here, I'll do it for ya, you just have to paste it there:
https://www.strawpoll.me/45320589

2nd poll to see how many people are on Windows, Mac or Linux:
https://www.strawpoll.me/45320597

Strawpoll is a service that doesn't require log in, in case you're wondering =D No hassle
BTW cool strawpoll :D
Post edited May 26, 2021 by The_Puppet94
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FeelingShred: Here, I'll do it for ya, you just have to paste it there:
https://www.strawpoll.me/45320589
What "changes proposed by GOG for the future" are you referring to? Can you post a link to them?
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FeelingShred: 100+ pages?? OMG... at this point nobody can even follow this anymore, even if they wanted.
You must be forgetting about people who spend their sweet time backtracking as well as those who were reading things as they were showing up.
Personally I have been lurking in this thread long before I signed to the list (and on the list I am fairly early on) and I have read 50+ % of all posts here.

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FeelingShred: Pirate users are not even a significant portion of the market share anyway, less than 10%?
Any real data to back this off?
Because I have seen some researches regarding this data in the past and iirc none of them cited your legendary precise "less than 10%".

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FeelingShred: To me, game companies that choose to support this new model will hurt their reputation and end up losing market share.
"New model" :P
LOL. Now THAT is hilarious.

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FeelingShred: To the creator of this thread: I feel your pain, man. Don't waste more time or energy into this thread, it's obvious that the puppies will settle for the bones they've been chewing from their owners, there's no use in arguing with people like that. But that doesn't mean you are alone in thinking like that, there's silent opposition at all times.
Basically you are saying we all should shut up and "not bother" being PUBLICALLY VOCAL since "majority won't agree with us anyway".
Interesting attitude.
But people having the courage to be in this thread while ACTIVELY voicing their concerns here, let alone those who signed to the list, generally don't agree with this point of yours.

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Time4Tea: I would like to announce that I have decided to boycott GOG for 2021. This is in response to several decisions the site has made over the past year that I believe have been deeply misguided:
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FeelingShred: Could you create a strawpoll and edit it into your 1st post on the 1st page?

Here, I'll do it for ya, you just have to paste it there:
https://www.strawpoll.me/45320589
This poll of yours is badly constructed.
I don't think I will waste my time explaining how bad it is since there's so much wrong with it.
But it deserves instant trashing.
It's REALLY BADLY made.

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FeelingShred: 2nd poll to see how many people are on Windows, Mac or Linux:
https://www.strawpoll.me/45320597
Now THIS POLL is just PATHETIC.
Any real Linux user would know why.
First of all, single choice? REALLY?
What about people who dual boot for some 1 game or software piece that refuses to work under Wine?
Would you say they should pretend they don't use Windows or pretend that they don't use Linux?
Also, "regardless of Wine"?
CRINGE.
Wine changes fundamentally EVERYTHING.
This is some casual level of poll design that doesn't take into consideration 99% of ANYTHING *NIX-esque :S

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FeelingShred: Strawpoll is a service that doesn't require log in, in case you're wondering =D No hassle
You should have picked a different platform for hosting your poll.
Some that is more privacy friendly and based in a country different than "certain big western country with questionable privacy of data stored in there as well as transitioning through servers there".

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The_Puppet94: No need to read 100+ pages to get into this thread. The most important posts are the posts of OP at the beginning anyway. All after that is to sum it up quickly,
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The_Puppet94: But all of these people have their very unique reasons not necessarly tied to the complaints OP has.
Pick one.
You cannot both say that people here represent different reasons to boycott, some of which are COMPLETELY MISALIGNED with the original statement/opening post of this thread (which is TRUE, probably for majority even), AND then simulatenously say that "only the OP post is important anyway".
In fact not too many people being vocal in this thread agree 100% with OP post.
Most people have their own reasons.
And majority here doesn't boycott BECAUSE OF this thread.
Most (of the vocal ones) simply found it and started talking with people sharing SIMILAR views.
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qwixter: Nice. The ol' "it was sarcasm" excuse.
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Breja: "Excuse" for what? You're still hanging on to that one word as if its use was the relevant part of the discussion, and not, I don't know, everything else in my post. I'd think the sarcasm in that post was glaringly obvious, and everyone who knows me on this forum will tell you I'm sarcastic all the bloody time, but really none of this matters. What matters is that you're deflecting, because your post was a load of nonsense, and it's easier to split hairs about how I used the word "supposed" than to confront that fact.
eh yea, some words imply action. "supposed to" is basically a verb which means "expect to" or "required to". My post never said that. Then your one reply was how my post couldn't be interpreted any other way then you change to "it was sarcasm", and finally it's am getting hung up on one word and "splitting hairs".

So what's the next chapter in this saga? More down voting right, because that's showing me.
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qwixter: So what's the next chapter in this saga?
Nothing, as far as I'm concerned. It's clear you're going to hide behind the semantics of this inconsequential word choice until the heat death of the universe, so I'm done trying to have a conversation with you.
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Shendue: The ironic thing, to me, is that if a large amount of customers would do that, the company would be basically forced to address the issue. Which means that if GOG doesn't care about it, it's basically because most people here don't give a damn about an antidemocratic regime imposing to a private company in another country to deny the use of their platform to someone because they don't like the fact those people are critical towards them.
I guess they just think it's not their problem.
I sincerely hope those people will never face a similar situation, in which an authority makes them wrong just because they can, and people who may help don't care.
The ironic thing, to me: You sound like you are fighting any brutal regime. In fact you prefere not to buy video games from a company.

Best regards

phila

P.S.: Anyone who would really give a f*** would be up for fair wages for the people that biuld our computers and cellphones in Chine or would be keen to stop child labour in the mining for seldom earths in Africa... But none of us does care at all, I guess. Instead: We feel like Robin Hood not wanting to sing into an account playing Multiplayer Games. LMAO. I sincerely hope we will never ever have to deal with any more sincere problems!
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derwendelin: I sincerely hope we will never ever have to deal with any more sincere problems!
I sure hope when your faucet starts leaking you won't get it fixed. It just wouldn't be right to deal with such a minor problem in the face of all the big ones facing humanity.
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FeelingShred: Here, I'll do it for ya, you just have to paste it there:
https://www.strawpoll.me/45320589
What on Earth is "KekW KekW KekW KekW"?
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FeelingShred: Here, I'll do it for ya, you just have to paste it there:
https://www.strawpoll.me/45320589
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HappyPunkPotato: What on Earth is "KekW KekW KekW KekW"?
I think it's the sound Kookaburra's make.
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derwendelin: I sincerely hope we will never ever have to deal with any more sincere problems!
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Breja: I sure hope when your faucet starts leaking you won't get it fixed. It just wouldn't be right to deal with such a minor problem in the face of all the big ones facing humanity.
Haha! And you must be the guy going full "mimimi" about semantics. Don`t get me wrong (you will anyhow), there is nothing wrong with being an unsatisfied customer. I`m whining over laughable stuff myself sometimes.

But writing stuff like: "I sincerely hope those people will never face a similar situation, in which an authority makes them wrong just because they can" That`s what I call pathetic. The anglicist in you might disagree of course ;-)

All the best to you!

phil
Post edited May 27, 2021 by derwendelin
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InSaintMonoxide: The user OldOldGamer is listed twice as #85 and #96 in Time4Tea's opening post.
Thanks for spotting this - I just fixed it.

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Narakir: If you added in your demands that GOG should fix many of the old games they sell to properly work in Windows or have original files for their DOS games, I would be interested.
I sympathize with these issues and if you are boycotting over these, then I totally respect that. I'm not sure I want to add them to the list here though, as it is already quite long and I want to focus more on the Devotion issue and the slippage of GOG's DRM-free standards.

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FeelingShred: To me, game companies that choose to support this new model will hurt their reputation and end up losing market share. Don't you think that users these days are the gullible easily-manipulated ones that the market had on early 2000's. Things have changed. Information spreads much quickly now.
I wish this were true; however, unfortunately it seems like many of the large game development companies that have embraced DRM are doing rather well financially (EA, Ubisoft, Activision), as is Steam, which has pushed the normalization of DRM more than anyone. A widespread gamer backlash against DRM doesn't seem to have materialized, which is why, imo, it is very important to insist that GOG remains a true alternative to that.

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FeelingShred: Could you create a strawpoll and edit it into your 1st post on the 1st page?

Here, I'll do it for ya, you just have to paste it there:
I appreciate you doing this, although I think it is beneficial to have a list of GOG users who are boycotting that is posted and visible on the GOG forum. Also, the boycott is not so much in response to 'changes that have been proposed' by GOG, but more a reaction to things they are doing but not explicitly saying - to a negative direction they seem to be silently (but inexorably) creeping towards, inch by inch.