GoGs rules are as vaguely as on every other side and mods as well as admis will enforce this rules after more strickt internal rules.
The real borders are widely know to how mods in here work.

In this threat there was more then enough posted to shoot it down. In fact even topics from other threads that have been shoot down for various reasons have been brought over to this threads and mods didn't closed it.
I mean, it is another bring back Dev-whatever thread, the thread starts out political. And no other company I know allows a general do not buy here thread in their own forums.

Just alone the first post got at last 3 reasons to shoot the thread down.
It did not happen.

And no, in a private and closed forum (does not mean nobody from the outside can see it, but that entrance is restricted and can be taken away, a random image board would be private and open), free speech does not applies.
In fact, GoG can do in here whatever they want. And you cry havoc about it but it wouldn't change anything. The rules that are written down are just guidelines for the users. Not formal laws. And the people who work with the rules only have to justify them self in front of the owner.
Here you are in this private bar. When entering you decided to follow the guidelines of the house. And if the owner does not like you, what you say or your behavior, you will be removed.
Free speech is a very US centric thing (remember, GoG is Poland in Europe...) and ONLY applies to your relationship between the Government (US in this case) and you as a citizen.
NOT to you and your relationship to a company when using their very own things.
Everyone who is crying about free speech at a cooperate platform should hold its tongue forever, because he is talking pure bullshit.

Sure, you got free speech in democratic countries. But depending on the topic it is more or less restricted. Many things that are allowed in the USA are not allowed in other countries. For example in europe we are much more strickt about far right wing propaganda. And to say some things without attacking a person directly (wich is against the laws in the usa) can bring you to prison.

Right now big US tech and social media companies (remember again, this forum does not fall under US law...) try to build up private structures to avoid falling under a law similar to free speech. For the time being, free speech does not even applies to even the biggest players like facebook or google.
Still you guys cry "free speech" over and over again in here, even when knowing it is pure BS what you are saying.


Looking at this situation, it is nearly like this thread got some protecting hands over it from above.
Somebody with a high rank on GoG feeled, that this thread should stay open, for the time being no matter what does happen.
Which would be an open hand from the side of GoG you only tend to slap away or bite into - just how you like it at the moment.
And you still call them hypocrites.

It truly makes me laugh.

Or as my most liked post about the free speech stuff says.
Falling back to calling out free speech is the ultimate concession. The best thing you can bring up for your defense is, that what you do and say is not outright illegal.

Just another mirror for you today.



Btw, you where the guy who left here long time ago and is just posting in here against gog for his personal entertainment, right?

Certainly, but it's not only "raising legitimate complaints", it's "Let's boycott this place, who's with me". And that will get you booted from most places quickly, no matter how legitimate you feel your issues are.

And rules or no rules - this is GOG's own site, they can do whatever they want. There is no right of "free speech" here. The whole forum only exists on GOG's whim, stuff like the CoC are guidelines for the users, not the host.

I've seen enough places where (valid!) criticism of the host is quickly deleted, and the users could be blocked or banned (sometimes silently, which I find especially nefarious). Many German news outlets silently remove posts pointing out mistakes in their articles... Do you think they have "Users must not complain" rules in their CoCs or TOS'? Of course not.

See, I cannot take you seriously when you write such things.

What exactly do you mean by silently if I may ask?

Sure, and following the same logic they can sell games with DRM if they want and make Galaxy obligatory. So I guess we have no reason or right to complain when that happens.


There are plenty of thieves and murderes in the world. Simply not being one of them does not make me a hero. Other places being shitty does not mean that simply not doing something shitty is in and of itself worthy of special praise.

I'm sorry, I'm tired of this. Of this bowed-head, cowering approach to some store or other corporate entity. This place exists because the people on the boycott list and other who left already spent money here. There is nothing wrong or even questionable with using this most straightforward way of making their issues heard. GOG should be criticised for not responding to them in any way, not praised for not silencing them. This is pure madness.

Hahaha, randomuser.833 sounds soooo salty right now! xD

I just don't understand what's controversial about any of this.

1) Release Devotion.
I mean, I don't care at all about the game, but I don't like the fact that they cancelled the release essentially just to appease China. Not cool.

2) Remove Gwent from GOG.
I mean, yeah. I think games like Gwent are terrible abominations and should not be created or sold by anyone, ever. So... yeah, duh.

3) Remove DRM from the bonus cosmetics in Cyberpunk 2077.
The amount I care about Cyberpunk 2077 is similar to the amount I care about which socks Keanu Reeves is wearing to his next event. But I also don't like DRM, so... why not?

4) Address the games on GOG which include DRM.
Pretty f-ing reasonable, yeah.

5) Address games that include locked cosmetics.
Fine.

6) Cancel the deal with Epic.
Probably a good idea, given their DRM-soaked business model and disturbing relationship with Tencent.

7) Treat all users equally.
Sounds fair.

8) Assign adequate resources to maintenance of the offline installers.
Good plan. You know, for running a business that sells offline installers.

Nothing about any of this should be particularly controversial. This all seems about as controversial in 2021 as global warming and evolution and whether the field of geology studies rocks.

So if anyone wants to put some pressure on GOG to get those things done, great. I hope they hear us. I hope it works.

In the USA you can say that holocaust never happend and while not everybody will listen to your bullshit, you can say it.
In some countries in Europe you can go to the jail for that.
And you can go to jail for using various symbols, that are related to germany from 1933 to 1945. Mostly know would be the flag of that time.

Anything you wanted to add?`

It was just an example where "free speech" can be restricted even by governments, that generally allow free speech.


But as I said too, GoG is not a government. GoG can do here whatever GoG wants to do.

You sure seem to like generalizing...
"Nobody", "Everybody"...
What are you? God? /s
Here's the tip: "majority" / "most" =/= "everybody".

If you mean complete ban of the entire user account then NO, GOG CANNOT do that based on forum activity.
The worst they can LEGALLY do is permanently block someone's access to forum.
If they would go ahead and ban ENTIRE account (ergo block access to past purchased content too) just based on FORUM activity then they would fall right under customer protection rights and depending on who they block they could even get sued (and depending on the country of said somebody said somebody would usually win).

Iirc only a subreddit mod or reddit admin personnel can REMOVE an ENTIRE thread. And as long as it's not violating Reddit TOS/rules nor subreddit rules it WILL stay.

I don't think you understand the dynamic between national/international law and TOS of a private platform.

Merely letting something exist in the wild is NOT acknowledging nor accepting it.

That's pretty interesting. Do you have some statistics on how many of users here started boycotting BECAUSE of this thread?
Do you have some data to back it off or are you pulling thee argumentation here out of your a**?
I for one was boycotting long before this thread showed up.
And upon discovering it I didn't sign to the list immediatelly. I was reading and lurking in this thread for quite some time before making signup decision.
And I would continue to boycott in the way I do even if this thread would cease to exist and/or I would be myself or by somebody removed from the list.

You accusation (of me putting words into your mouth) is completely baseless if you don't provide any direct proofs.
In fact I am pretty suprised by this as I definitely didn't intentionally do what you accuse me of at any point in time.

You are only proving my point.
GOG isn't enforcing their rules equally across the platform. Mods are lenient. Blues pretend things don't exist.
Rules ARE applied SELECTIVELY here.
And that doesn't change what ACTUAL rules are - those would be TOS/COC - NOT what is ACTUALLY enforced.

"I haven't seen it so it must not exist"
Nice try.

You are yet another person that does not understand the relation between law and TOS of a private corp.

You can MAYBE remove somebody from your premises. But you can't do just about ANYTHING (remember? You said GOG can do "whatever they want". Ergo EVERYTHING).
It doesn't matter if it's private house, private bar, or private forum or a private company with their public facing forum. Neither or those is a lawless zone where people can do "whatever they want".
TOS does NOT override law.

US this, US that.
Funny, from my perspective it REALLY looks like you just implied my country of residence without ANY proof whatsoever :D
Also, again, you don't understand the relation between law and TOS :P
( you don't even understand the relation between law and free speech it seems as it DOES apply outside of "citizen-government" relations )

US this, US that. Usa! UsA! USA! (...)
Dude. Lol.
ZA WARUDO does not revolve around only US and Germany.
Also it's funny how you bring up 2 US-BASED companies when trying to explain actions and liability of Polish company :D

With all due respect but you don't know what I know so REALLY it is pure BS what YOU are saying now (implying some people are INTENTIONALLY making fools out of themselves).

This argument is about on par with "you spent 600 hours in this free to play game therefore have NO RIGHT TO POINT OUT IT'S FLAWS ( /COMPLAIN ) as since 'you spend so much time in it you 'SURELY' enjoyed it'".
Stop bullshitting.

Merely sending a message does not mean it will arrive.
Taking for granted your cause made an effect is pathetic.

This is incorrect. You are confusing me with someone else.
There are a bunch of these "entertainment" guys in this thread but I am not one of them.
Also, for anybody who ever tries to say "oh you LEFT and now you're back" to me - I merely made a break - as I have LIFE outside of this thread and have other things to do than replying IMMEDIATELLY to EVERYTHING.

Probably SHADOWBANS.

There are more problems with GOG. Some were even pointed out in this thread. But ultimately this thread is OP's creation and he/she refuses to acknowledge some problems and add them to the list (out of personal bias perhaps?).
You should not take this list for granted. There is far more wrong with GOG / CDPR-Group-as-a-whole than this list describes.

I would like to point out that there is world outside of US and Germany.
You should really stop (RIGHT NOW) pointing fingers with "YOU are from the US, ...and YOU are from the US... and YOU (...)".
It's starting to really piss me off.
Some people will casually brush this off and laugh at this. But it WILL offend some people.
Not everybody views same countries in same ways. Some people WILL get offended when having certain-countries tags put on them without ANY proof whatsoever.
You are being so deep in your lucid nefarious typewriting that you seem to have forgotten that when you accuse somebody of connections with country X or Z you should have SOME proof to back it off first and foremost.

You still see your own posts, so they don't appear deleted. But they are hidden from everybody else. And you're never notified of it. It's called silent ban, or shadowban.
This usually comes out when you ask a fellow user "Did you see my post" and they reply "What post, there's nothing there".

Ah, ok. I already heard of shadow banning.

Correct. They could.

And where did I say that?


I can agree until here.

"Praised" may be to lofty a word, maybe "respected". Because most companies would have pulled the plug on that little uprising long ago.
It's kind of sad that you're unable to see that.

EDIT:

We seeem to be going in circles and like I said before, I'm really tired of all this. It's like this old joke about Stalin telling a little girl begging for food to fuck off and everyone admiring his kindness for not killing her on the spot.

Sir, you are talking to someone who was pointing out - and helping to fix - problems with this place before GOG was even out of beta. That said, I appreciate the update, as I must admit that since about when you joined in 2015, I've mostly been absent, and have missed a lot, I'm sure.