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StrongSoldier: I think the best thing would be for you to stop buying at gog. Honestly here there are users who say they are boycotting and then they have bought games.

Most users only use their game without drm and with the galaxy option. That's what gog gives users.

You have the zoom platform. Please buy there and leave the rest of the users alone.
It is a bold statement to say that users who stated (voluntairly) that they are boycotting bought games. Did you really investigate the list of 94 people (current as of post #1811) who stated that they are boycotting GOG this year and found some who bought games?

For me this boycott section is more an ongoing list of things GOG is doing today which a lot of people are at least to some degree uncomfortable (If this results in a stop of buying games here is a diffrent story).

IMO its a good thing to point out things you don't like. Sure there are other platforms, but just referring to other platforms doesn't change anything to the better here for sure.
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StrongSoldier: I think the best thing would be for you to stop buying at gog. Honestly here there are users who say they are boycotting and then they have bought games.

Most users only use their game without drm and with the galaxy option. That's what gog gives users.

You have the zoom platform. Please buy there and leave the rest of the users alone.
While I disagree with many of the grievances and I'm very skeptical about its impact on GOG's bottom line (GOG is a minority of the parent's company revenue and forum posters are a minority of GOG users so we're talking about the minority of a minority... heck, I'm probably one of GOG's biggest customers... top 5% for sure, but in terms of overall revenue, I'm a drop in the ocean), it doesn't affect me much as long as it is kept civil.

I think its pointless, but if it makes some users feel better, do what you gotta do.
Post edited April 01, 2021 by Magnitus
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StrongSoldier: I think the best thing would be for you to stop buying at gog.
That is what I am doing. Hence the boycott.

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StrongSoldier: You have the zoom platform. Please buy there and leave the rest of the users alone.
Am I interfering with you somehow? Don't like the topic of the thread --> don't read it or post in it then. Simple.
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StrongSoldier: I think the best thing would be for you to stop buying at gog. Honestly here there are users who say they are boycotting and then they have bought games.

Most users only use their game without drm and with the galaxy option. That's what gog gives users.

You have the zoom platform. Please buy there and leave the rest of the users alone.
I like Zoom, but unfortunately they don't have regional prices and that is a bummer when you're not rich and you live in South America. So I haven't bought from them as much as their anti-DRM stance deserves, tho I intend to raise my purchases gradually.

Anyway, I spent 39 cents in 4 months when I would have spent more than $54.60 (Yes, 4 months. I wasn't counting their lost sales during december when the Winter Sale happened and I was already boycotting.)

I think the message to Gog is still crystal clear. 39 cents instead of at least 54 bucks.
Besides, everyone has their own boycott limits, for example I remember someone said they will only buy DLC for the games they already own. And there is nothing wrong with that. They're still spending far less than Gog would expect from them, and so am I.

Edit: BTW, given that Gog takes 30% from every purchase except their own games my purchase got them a whooping 13 cents richer.
Post edited April 01, 2021 by joppo
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Just wanted to tell you that I am boycotting this thread.

Guess I`ll post every game, I bought recently.

-> Dorfromantik

Best Regards!

See you soon!

phil
Post edited April 01, 2021 by derwendelin
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derwendelin: Just wanted to tell you that I am boycotting this thread.
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derwendelin: See you soon!
You're doing it wrong.
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derwendelin: Just wanted to tell you that I am boycotting this thread.

Guess I`ll post every game, I bought recently.

-> Dorfromantik

Best Regards!

See you soon!

phil
You could do something even better. You could start a thread called "Not Boycotting GOG 2021" and list people who actively identify themselves --- by posting in your thread ---- as not boycotting GOG, That way we could quantify the relative magnitude of the boycott by comparing the two threads.

Because, you see, there have been people who have claimed that there are more people not boycotting GOG than there are those boycotting, but I don't see any proof of that claim. I know of 94 people boycotting GOG (listed in post #1) and only 1 not boycotting (you).
Post edited April 02, 2021 by mrkgnao
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derwendelin: See you soon!
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Breja: You're doing it wrong.
It hurts him to see people aren't buying from a dying company like gog.
Hell, I'm boycotting until they make a public appology to Devotion's developers, alongside proper reperations for their blatant breach of contract. Also, it'd be kind of nice if you know, they actually tried to make an effort to stick to that entire DRM-free thing again. Or not just stab small independent developerrs in the back constantly. Or basically show the slightest trace of human decency at this point.
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derwendelin: Just wanted to tell you that I am boycotting this thread.

Guess I`ll post every game, I bought recently.

-> Dorfromantik

Best Regards!

See you soon!

phil
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mrkgnao: You could do something even better. You could start a thread called "Not Boycotting GOG 2021" and list people who actively identify themselves --- by posting in your thread ---- as not boycotting GOG, That way we could quantify the relative magnitude of the boycott by comparing the two threads.

Because, you see, there have been people who have claimed that there are more people not boycotting GOG than there are those boycotting, but I don't see any proof of that claim. I know of 94 people boycotting GOG (listed in post #1) and only 1 not boycotting (you).
Thank you for the idea! As I am not one of those, who claimed whatever you claim, they claimed - I`d rarther post my messages here. I like to stay in contact with people that I disagree with. There are selfmade bubbles enough, where people think whatever they belive to be true.

All the best to you!

phil
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derwendelin: All the best to you!

phil
Thank you for your help in keeping the thread visible by posting here.
I don't get it, why western people so upset with Devotion situation? There is whole cancel culture in the West right now when people get a lot of problems IRL if activists think that this person wrote something wrong on Twitter. People got their сareers ruined, their reputations destroyed. After all, in China, there are strict rules and in the USA you can get into big trouble basically for anything. So, why are you upset with the Devotion situation? I thought after Trump's situation with censorship, you're used to this kind of thing by now?

Personally, I don't boycott GOG because it is still a DRM-free store and I like to buy games here. I haven't bought many in January and February because the payment was problematic due to new laws, but right now problems are solved and I spent about 13 USD on this sale already. And I plan to buy more games from GOG in the future if they will be still offering DRM-free games.
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Andrey82: I don't get it, why western people so upset with Devotion situation?
For me the worst thing about that wasn't that GOG caved in and bowed to Chinese pressure. It was the way how they treated their customers when telling us of that cancellation. The pathetic 'many messages from gamers' lie. It implies that GOG thinks us so stupid that we'll swallow any lie. GOG, the company that used to be famous for open communication, has turned into a bunch of lying cowards who don't even dare to admit the real reason for that cancellation. Or to apologize for the lie.

But the Devotion thing is not my personal reason to boycott. It's the DRM thing. The change in policy, that they are now OK with DRM on the single-player part of games, "as long as they don't affect it in a major way". They even put DRM on the DLC of their own flagship game. That sends a clear message, that they don't want to stay DRM-free.

And even if one were to accept the transition of GOG from DRM-free store to DRM-agnostic store, they still do it in the most anti-customer way possible: by hiding the fact that there is DRM on a game. It would be better, if they would just put clear labels on the games, for example "Fully DRM-free", "Multiplayer-DRM" and "Other DRM", and allow filtering by DRM. But they don't. They pretend that all their single-player games are not DRM-ed and leave it to the customer to find out, after buying, in which cases that was another lie.

I haven't bought anything since the Christmas Secret Santa thing. I made an exception for that. Normally, I would have bought some items from my wish-list at each sale. I usually did. So my wish-list is basically a list of the games that I would buy sooner or later, if GOG would return to being DRM-free.
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Lifthrasil: The pathetic 'many messages from gamers' lie. It implies that GOG thinks us so stupid that we'll swallow any lie. GOG, the company that used to be famous for open communication, has turned into a bunch of lying cowards who don't even dare to admit the real reason for that cancellation. Or to apologize for the lie.
So, are there any proofs that it was a lie? )))

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Lifthrasil: The change in policy, that they are now OK with DRM on the single-player part of games, "as long as they don't affect it in a major way". They even put DRM on the DLC of their own flagship game. That sends a clear message, that they don't want to stay DRM-free.
Well, that is really doesn't affect a single player in any major way. But yes, there I can agree,

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Lifthrasil: They pretend that all their single-player games are not DRM-ed and leave it to the customer to find out, after buying, in which cases that was another lie.
Can you provide a few examples, when single-player games on GOG were DRMed? Except Cyberpunk 2077?
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Andrey82: I don't get it, why western people so upset with Devotion situation?
Just speaking for myself here, but I thought the dev's previous game was legit great and was really looking forward to playing this one. The Devotion cancellation had the unfortunate side effect that said previous game got shitcanned from gog as well.

And just because cancel culture is raging waaaay out of control in Western Clownworldia doesn't mean that you should just accept it and move on.