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I'm not surprised they are doing this.

Blizzard, much like Valve, lives on the past goodwill of gamers. They've long since exhausted any creative talent they had and are now intently focused on propagating their service platform of World of Warcraft, which has long since ceased being a game and is more a social media service at this point.

That's why it takes them almost ten years to make a sequel to one of their most popular games in history and why the purchasing of another huge social media service company in King was such a good move for them.

My guess is that now that the story of Starcraft is coming to a close with Legacy of the Void and WoW's numbers keep plummeting after such a huge purchase, they are looking to recoup some of the revenue by repackaging and reselling their older, neglected properties.

It's not a bad idea for them. Remade versions of the Warcraft series and Diablo will probably sell very well, even if they are just the same games with a 4K resolution mod slapped on.
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playerone81: "Compelling stories. Intense multiplayer. Endless replayability. Qualities that made StarCraft, Warcraft III, and Diablo II the titans of their day. Evolving operating systems, hardware, and online services have made them more difficult to be experienced by their loyal followers or reaching a new generation.

We’re restoring them to glory, and we need your engineering talents, your passion, and your ability to get tough jobs done.

So if you like wearing many hats, know small teams are the most effective, and look forward to challenges that will create millions of new adventures for our players: we would love to hear from you.

RESPONSIBILITIES
Make gameplay first again on modern operating systems.
Create conditions for experiences that look as good as they play.
Own implementation and curation of features new and old.
Combat hacking to improve multiplayer.
Diagnose and fix all the things: crashes, deadlocks, overflows, heap corruptions, etc."

http://us.blizzard.com/en-us/company/careers/posting.html?id=15000XZ
If you like wearing many hats and know small teams are the most effective, go play Team Fortress 2 :D
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IwubCheeze: I can understand the pessimism but geez, calm down already. Remember several months back when people were harping on Bethesda for being married with Steam and they would never come to GOG? Look how that turned out. Wouldn't it be more logical to wait and see what Blizzard does first, actually SEE the results first and THEN respond?

Or is frothing at the mouth and filling your posts with as many "f" words as possible all the rage whenever someone mentions Blizzard?
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micktiegs_8: It's probably best to actually reply to the person you're talking about. What's the worst they can do? Get sour at you for telling them off? :3

Everyone likes to argue lol.
There's quite a few ragers here so I never bothered to reply to a specific person.

Yeah, I'm guilty of likingto argue too :P
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nightcraw1er.488: Ha, hahha, mwuhhahaha. What they in fact mean, is they want to take their old games which have made them vast amounts of money, whack a widescreen mod on it, then resell it for vast amounts of cash again, whilst linking them all up to the real money auction houses and drm riddled software.

If anything these fuckwits should be legally banned from touching any old material, but unfortunately IP laws allow this kind of underhand theft off dumb people.

My opinion, stop buying from them full stop.
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Elenarie: Get a life.
Why, I don't want to feel superior to you.
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nightcraw1er.488: Ha, hahha, mwuhhahaha. What they in fact mean, is they want to take their old games which have made them vast amounts of money, whack a widescreen mod on it, then resell it for vast amounts of cash again, whilst linking them all up to the real money auction houses and drm riddled software.

If anything these fuckwits should be legally banned from touching any old material, but unfortunately IP laws allow this kind of underhand theft off dumb people.

My opinion, stop buying from them full stop.
It reads like, we want you suckers to do all the work so we can make some money. We'll sell an overpriced widescreen mod heaped on to a pile of DRM bullshit.

If they gave a shit about their old IP's they woud release them here.

Fuck these guys.
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Elmofongo: why the fuck is everyone assuming they will implement always online DRM and microtransactions in the classic games?

I've read the webpage and nothing implies that?
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KingofGnG: And why the fuck should I assume the opposite? It's Blizzard, it's a just a monstrous corporation that wants to squeeze users, nay, "customers" to get as much money as they can. "Gaming", for Blizzard and me, means two completely different things nowadays...
Who also recently made availed for free several classic games...
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RottenRotz: Not on GOG-NO Buy
DRM-NO Buy
Silly cosmetic upgrades like Widescreen-NO Buy

there are 99% chances i wont buy it
I'll take those odds.
It's good that they still care about the classics but I don't trust them very much. I guess they will rather add pointless things like DRM and achievements instead of really restarurating the classics they have.
How...exciting...We'll wait and see. Right now...not exactly a Blizzie fan.
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IwubCheeze: I can understand the pessimism but geez, calm down already. Remember several months back when people were harping on Bethesda for being married with Steam and they would never come to GOG? Look how that turned out. Wouldn't it be more logical to wait and see what Blizzard does first, actually SEE the results first and THEN respond?...
Sure, that would be more reasonable, although it's also not wrong to statistically estimate future behavior partly also from past behavior. Bethesda might just be a rare exception from the general rule.

And people just like to speculate. That's human. Gossip, guesswork, .. it's what people like, even if they do not have many facts. And partly it's interesting to see what other people think will happen.

I can understand the pssimism too and share it even partly. I would even bet money on all the new games having DRM.

But you're right. It's much better to judge them by what they did in the past, not what they may or may not be doing in the future.

So judging Activision by what they did in the past... well DRM wise they were quite unfriendly.
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TheTome56: I'm not surprised they are doing this.

Blizzard, much like Valve, lives on the past goodwill of gamers. They've long since exhausted any creative talent they had and are now intently focused on propagating their service platform of World of Warcraft, which has long since ceased being a game and is more a social media service at this point.

That's why it takes them almost ten years to make a sequel to one of their most popular games in history and why the purchasing of another huge social media service company in King was such a good move for them.

My guess is that now that the story of Starcraft is coming to a close with Legacy of the Void and WoW's numbers keep plummeting after such a huge purchase, they are looking to recoup some of the revenue by repackaging and reselling their older, neglected properties.

It's not a bad idea for them. Remade versions of the Warcraft series and Diablo will probably sell very well, even if they are just the same games with a 4K resolution mod slapped on.
I don't think you're right about past goodwill.

While at start Diablo 3 was somewhat rubbish (to be fair, it was good, but not really amazing) they kept improving on it and giving people like me reason to go back and play a bit more from time to time. I honestly have more than 120 hours in that game and it is literally the only game that I have played for anything even remotely close to that amount of time.

People may whine as much as they want about how the game ruined the series by being so different from D1 and D2, but even though I enjoyed those games a lot, I never felt as much desire to go back and spend more time on it and try to achieve new and different things as I feel with D3. Yes, it sucks royally that it is online only, but it works, so it's acceptable. Hell, I even want those guys to put out another expansion pack just so that I can have more content to explore and have fun with.

Like Valve, Blizzard doesn't always get things immediately right, but they have the resources and will to keep iterating and eventually fine tune their games into really good stuff.

And if you think this is a modern trend, that in the past they would always get it right first, well, when I played D2 all those years ago, right after it launched, I didn't enjoy it much. But when I bought a complete copy about a year before D3 came out, boy, did I have fun with it.

As for resurrecting old games, in recent years Blizzard has been looking into low cost projects that could be profitable, instead of always spending millions and eras in their next major iterations of their famous IPs. That's the sole reason Heartstone exists and I think that Overwatch follows the same vein as well. So bringing back legacy titles is another way to generate money with low investment. It makes business sense; it makes cultural sense as well.
A lot of people will rebuy games if the modern port feels convenient and if it improves anything at all, that’s a big bonus.
As long as they release Diablo 1 and Warcraft 2 in a form similar to the other classic games on their site, I'm fine with this.
Ok, what about making Diablo (1) and Warcraft 1+2 available via Battle.net? They HAD announced plans along those lines some time ago, or am I making this up? >_>
Post edited November 04, 2015 by Nergal01
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Crosmando: Starcraft and Diablo 1-2 need widescreen resolutions, that's about it.
WarCraft III has some issues with the cutscenes on modern systems.
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TheTome56: I'm not surprised they are doing this.

Blizzard, much like Valve, lives on the past goodwill of gamers. They've long since exhausted any creative talent they had and are now intently focused on propagating their service platform of World of Warcraft, which has long since ceased being a game and is more a social media service at this point.

That's why it takes them almost ten years to make a sequel to one of their most popular games in history and why the purchasing of another huge social media service company in King was such a good move for them.

My guess is that now that the story of Starcraft is coming to a close with Legacy of the Void and WoW's numbers keep plummeting after such a huge purchase, they are looking to recoup some of the revenue by repackaging and reselling their older, neglected properties.

It's not a bad idea for them. Remade versions of the Warcraft series and Diablo will probably sell very well, even if they are just the same games with a 4K resolution mod slapped on.
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Falci: I don't think you're right about past goodwill.

While at start Diablo 3 was somewhat rubbish (to be fair, it was good, but not really amazing) they kept improving on it and giving people like me reason to go back and play a bit more from time to time. I honestly have more than 120 hours in that game and it is literally the only game that I have played for anything even remotely close to that amount of time.

People may whine as much as they want about how the game ruined the series by being so different from D1 and D2, but even though I enjoyed those games a lot, I never felt as much desire to go back and spend more time on it and try to achieve new and different things as I feel with D3. Yes, it sucks royally that it is online only, but it works, so it's acceptable. Hell, I even want those guys to put out another expansion pack just so that I can have more content to explore and have fun with.

Like Valve, Blizzard doesn't always get things immediately right, but they have the resources and will to keep iterating and eventually fine tune their games into really good stuff.

And if you think this is a modern trend, that in the past they would always get it right first, well, when I played D2 all those years ago, right after it launched, I didn't enjoy it much. But when I bought a complete copy about a year before D3 came out, boy, did I have fun with it.

As for resurrecting old games, in recent years Blizzard has been looking into low cost projects that could be profitable, instead of always spending millions and eras in their next major iterations of their famous IPs. That's the sole reason Heartstone exists and I think that Overwatch follows the same vein as well. So bringing back legacy titles is another way to generate money with low investment. It makes business sense; it makes cultural sense as well.
A lot of people will rebuy games if the modern port feels convenient and if it improves anything at all, that’s a big bonus.
If their games suck at the start but get better over time and this is fine, then why don't other companies get the same treatment?

Evolve and Civilization: Beyond Earth have both undergone drastic improvements since they were first released as well and are almost completely different games now. But you'd never know that looking at Steam reviews and Metacritic pages which blasted them. Why is it ok in the eyes of the community that Blizzard can release a mediocre product and improve upon it later, but 2K Games can't?

It's because Blizzard is living off the past goodwill of gamers. There's no other explanation for it. They are allowed to get away with the same business practices that gamers crucify other publishers and developers for because those same gamers keep giving them passes on it out of nostalgia for the things Blizzard did years ago.

Blizzard knows this, and they are exploiting this to the maximum. That's why Hearthstone and Heroes of the Storm are all based on past Blizzard IPs. They are constantly trying to say to you "Hey guys, we made Warcraft, Diablo and Starcraft! Remember? Keep forgiving us for the real world money Auction House in Diablo 3 and lying to you all about it being a 'necessary' part of the game design that we can't remove while you review bomb Overkill Software for doing the exact same thing in Payday 2, because of those awesome games we made once!"

It's wrong, plain and simple. The way we heap so much praise on Blizzard, Valve, Sony and any other of the gaming greats is wrong. They should be held accountable for what they are doing and they should be treated the same way we would treat EA, Ubisoft and Konami when they do they same things.

Re-releasing their old IPs is going to be a very effective strategy. There's no doubt in my mind that HD remakes of Diablo and Warcraft will sell great and everyone will praise Blizzard for it. But I'm concerned that what everyone is going to forget about is that Overwatch is the first original idea Blizzard has had in over 20 years. And for a company that apparently had $6 billion dollars laying around to spend on buying out the guys who made Candy Crush, spending 20 years to do something new is inexcusable.

And so long as Blizzard continues to have nostalgic player goodwill, they'll be allowed to make inexcusable mistakes that their fans will excuse them for. I may not be able to change that, but at very least, I can call it out for what it is.