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Posted February 26, 2015
Herzlich Willkommen!




GOG.com goes German. Not completely, mind you, but starting today we'll be spreading our DRM-free love in one more language. Whether you're here because of the news, or you've been with us for a while, here is what we're doing to make our German speaking friends feel a little more welcome on GOG.com:




-A German version of our website. You can change your language using the drop-down menu towards the bottom of every page.
-A German corner of our forums. Your home away from home.
-German customer support. If you're more comfortable talking to us in your native language.
-More games in German. We're rolling out 25+ German localisations for our games today, bringing the total up to 350+.




No big announcement would be complete without a huge sale! This weekend we're holding the German-riffic <span class="bold">Herzlich Willkommen!</span> promo. The highlight is a ridiculous 97% off Deponia, but there are over 25 other German gaming hits available as well. There is adventuring with the remaining Deponia games, the cult strategy of The Settlers, the tough and turn-based tactics in Blackguards 1 and 2, and many, many more feats of German game design.


Check out <span class="bold">the weekend promo page</span> to see the full lineup. The promo will last until Tuesday, March 3, at 4:59 AM GMT.




Update:
Two games from our catalog had to be made unavailable in Germany: Commandos Ammo Pack and Commandos 2+3. Offering or promoting these games is considered a serious criminal offence according to German law, and we have to abide by this law to avoid the risk of serious legal action taken against GOG.com and GOG.com employees. Rest assured that if you've already bought a game - nothing will retroactively disappear from your shelves.
Post edited February 27, 2015 by Chamb
Posted February 27, 2015
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Thank you gog for fully german audio versions of
- Prince of Persia SoT Trilogy
- Die Siedler 2
- Floyd (Feeble Files)
- Normality and
- Darkstone

To me, german spoken language is important for older games I used to play in this language, because of nostalgia.
German text however, does not matter to me, personally. I still hope those games which only received german text yet, will be updated to audio sooner or later.
Post edited February 27, 2015 by Rhyney
Posted February 27, 2015
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Rhyney: I am sure, the GoG downloader would be integrated into the galaxy client. Even if gog.com would be evil, leaving the downloader out would make no sense or profit for them.

Don´t judge someone based on your assumption, even If you were disappointed in the past. Lets wait until Galaxy is released.
Right, lets see if it's usable on the command line or if it forces me to use a GUI and if it's open source so that I can check what it's doing with my game library. ;)

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BKGaming: Also even without the GOG downloader one can still download games via the browser, get a good download manager and that's really all you need.
You probably haven't used the lgogdownloader so far, otherwise you would know that it's functionality (like local checksumming, archive integrity verification, automatic backup of modified files, check for orphaned files, ...) cannot simply be replaced by a download manager.
Posted February 27, 2015
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johnnygoging: a big wtf at all the coolguys talking about leaving when galaxy shows up. gog has repeatedly stated that nothing would change for how they do things with galaxy. and until it does, you can't call out galaxy for anything bad.
It's because using basic common sense tells you that their "utopian" galaxy client, that promises pink rainbows and unicorns, will not be able to do that because of technical limited reasons.

The first downside of the galaxy client will be the "patched rythm" of a particular game. Those using galaxy will get updates fast, as released by the game's developer while those not using galaxy but the classic browser or downloader manager will not get fast updates (and this will culminate in getting no updates whatsover for the latter because some developers will choose only to support galaxy, not classic system of delivering updates).

And unfortunately this will not be all. After all, they break their promises several times, there's an extremely high chance that they'll break promises again with galaxy release.
What they are promising now with galaxy it's too pink, with all bells and whistles, and they'll not be able to deliver. You'll see.

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PaterAlf: Why doesn't GOG simply offer both versions for download?
They do it with several other games as well (e.g. FlatOut, System Shock) and it doesn't seem to be a problem.
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JudasIscariot: We already have the officially censored German versions of games (System Shock 2, I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream, Shadow Man) alongside their uncensored English counterparts so if you see a game for sale and it has an English and German version, you have the choice of playing the English version without fear of ONLY getting the cut German version.
Posted February 27, 2015
I don't like where this is going. :(
Posted February 27, 2015
I think this censorship should never exist, and the Commando game removed from GOG is a precedent.
Posted February 27, 2015
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johnnygoging: a big wtf at all the coolguys talking about leaving when galaxy shows up. gog has repeatedly stated that nothing would change for how they do things with galaxy. and until it does, you can't call out galaxy for anything bad.
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mobutu: It's because using basic common sense tells you that their "utopian" galaxy client, that promises pink rainbows and unicorns, will not be able to do that because of technical limited reasons.

The first downside of the galaxy client will be the "patched rythm" of a particular game. Those using galaxy will get updates fast, as released by the game's developer while those not using galaxy but the classic browser or downloader manager will not get fast updates (and this will culminate in getting no updates whatsover for the latter because some developers will choose only to support galaxy, not classic system of delivering updates).
Well, at least they cannot take your already downloaded installers away.

If you are at least a bit smart, it is really advisable to download all your purchases and store them somewhere on an (external) hard drive offline. Also keep in mind - as long as you have the disk space for it - do not delete the old installer, if feasable.

It is also a bit odd that GOG got some of the more DRM greedy publisher (Disney) onto GOG, it would be intrigueing why GOG could seal the deal. Well, strange times ahead.
Posted February 27, 2015
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johnnygoging: Secondly, a big wtf at all the coolguys talking about leaving when galaxy shows up. gog has repeatedly stated that nothing would change for how they do things with galaxy. and until it does, you can't call out galaxy for anything bad.
It's not a threat, it's a hunch. Things have gone downhill fast and the potential of Galaxy to destroy all that is left is staggering. Whatever gog is saying about Galaxy isn't as convincing as it used to be, and one can safely expect that they will maintain complete silence over any gigantic downsides and leave them as a surprise for us to find.

So while I still hope for best, I totally expect the worst. I've had my bags packed (everything downloaded) for a while now.
Posted February 27, 2015
I don't know if it has been asked, but why doesn't GOG offer only the German version of Commandos to Germans? Why remove it completely?
Posted February 27, 2015
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Rixasha: Whatever gog is saying about Galaxy isn't as convincing as it used to be
In Galaxy related news, Aliens vs Predator now supports Cross-play between GOG and Steam users. So there's definitely work being done with Galaxy, and it is on the part we (or at least I) considered the hardest.
Posted February 27, 2015
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Laserschwert: I don't know if it has been asked, but why doesn't GOG offer only the German version of Commandos to Germans? Why remove it completely?
That would need there to be a German version and its a series that was banned for mentioning Nazis in a world war 2 setting so it never had one.
Posted February 27, 2015
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GOG.com: Two games from our catalog had to be made unavailable in Germany: Commandos Ammo Pack and Commandos 2+3. Offering or promoting these games is considered a serious criminal offence according to German law, and we have to abide by this law to avoid the risk of serious legal action taken against GOG.com and GOG.com employees. Rest assured that if you've already bought a game - nothing will retroactively disappear from your shelves.
This is such an arbitrary measure.
If you realy cared about german law, you had an functionating age verification for 18+ Titles by checking the ID card of the purchaser.
Posted February 27, 2015
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bubbabenali: This is such an arbitrary measure.
If you realy cared about german law, you had an functionating age verification for 18+ Titles by checking the ID card of the purchaser.
Checking an ID card would not be enough (you can be sure that Steam would already do that if it was an option).
here's an article:
http://www.it-recht-kanzlei.de/Thema/verkauf-computerspiele.html
Also for digital goods it would have to be a system similar to PostIdent.
Posted February 27, 2015
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Laserschwert: I don't know if it has been asked, but why doesn't GOG offer only the German version of Commandos to Germans? Why remove it completely?
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CountDandy: That would need there to be a German version and its a series that was banned for mentioning Nazis in a world war 2 setting so it never had one.
Wrong, there is a German censored version, it was even delivered in gaming magazines here.
I guess GoG just doesn't have the rights to distribute it.
In the past, users made German language patches for games only available here in English (including "Die Siedler" series), in the future there'll probably be more blood patches instead.

Anyway: If GoG really wants to enter the German market so deliberately, they have no other choice than to implement an expensive age verification system and if they do this properly, they can practically offer anything they want to us here, even porn games. If they do not, they'll stay in a legally grey area even if it's only about unrated games for children.
Post edited February 27, 2015 by Klumpen0815
Posted February 27, 2015
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GOG.com: Two games from our catalog had to be made unavailable in Germany: Commandos Ammo Pack and Commandos 2+3. Offering or promoting these games is considered a serious criminal offence according to German law, and we have to abide by this law to avoid the risk of serious legal action taken against GOG.com and GOG.com employees. Rest assured that if you've already bought a game - nothing will retroactively disappear from your shelves.
GOG.com goes German indeed... Great! :(
Post edited February 27, 2015 by RS1978
Posted February 27, 2015
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bubbabenali: ...functionating age verification for 18+ Titles by checking the ID card of the purchaser.
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Piranjade: Checking an ID card would not be enough
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Klumpen0815: ...implement an expensive age verification system...
Why go to such complicated and expensive things when there's already an easy system implemented/working:
- a child cannot make/authorize the payment for a digital product, unless he has his legal guardian (parents) consent.
Last I know, a child can have bank accounts and shit but he cannot make any sort of payment without the consent of his legal guardian. Has this changed? I don't think so.
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