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Posted August 26, 2015
The Elder Scrolls. Quake & Doom. Fallout. Alright.

Welcome, Bethesda, to our pantheon of all-time classics!
Today, we're happy to start a blooming new partnership with Bethesda Softworks, one that brings an impressive lineup of their unforgettable games to our DRM-free platform, and plenty of guts and nuclear smiles to our faces.

We're teaming up to release some of the greatest hits from the Bethesda vault, some DRM-free for the first time ever. Eleven new arrivals include The Elder Scrolls and two digital-distribution premieres, totally retro id Software shooters, plus the long-awaited return of the Fallout franchise! To make the day even sweeter, The Elder Scrolls: Arena and The Elder Scrolls II: Daggerfall will be added to your game shelf entirely for free when you buy any Bethesda game.





<span class="bold">The Elder Scrolls</span>, perched high up among the most famous video-game worlds ever created, are now DRM-free and updated for your modern computer - you can purchase all three to receive a 33% discount.:
--The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind - Game of the Year Edition.
--The Elder Scrolls Adventures: Redguard - digital distribution premiere.
--The Elder Scrolls: Battlespire - digital distribution premiere.
--The Elder Scrolls: Arena - FREE with any Bethesda purchase.
--The Elder Scrolls II: Daggerfall - FREE with any Bethesda purchase, too.





Megahit <span class="bold">id Software</span> first-person shooters join the fray - also 33% off if you grab all three:
--Quake including Mission Pack 1 and Mission Pack 2
--The Ultimate DOOM
--DOOM II + Master Levels for Doom II + Final DOOM





And last we find that goodbyes are not forever (and that war never changes). <span class="bold">Fallout</span>, the premiere post nuclear role playing game franchise is finally back on GOG.com! Save 66% if you complete your collection in one purchase.
--Fallout
--Fallout 2
--Fallout Tactics



The bundle promos end on Wednesday, September 2, 12:59 PM GMT.


Stream watch:
We'll be showing off many of these fresh and returning releases on our Twitch channel! Follow us (or track our dedicated streaming Twitter) to not miss 'em!
Posted September 23, 2015
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Emob78: (...)
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0Grapher: In my opinion, it's great to have an official place where you can get mods but it shouldn't be tied to the store you bought your game on.

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skeletonbow: Calling it DRM is a fear argument that holds no water. You can go on Steam and install Skyrim mods by downloading them through the web browser or an FTP program, then unzipping them at the commandline in Windows and moving the files to where they need to be if you like, there is absolutely nothing whatsoever about copy protection involved in the experience.
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0Grapher: So, tell me how I can download Workshop mods without owning the game on Steam.
Last time I checked you could not do that.
I just don't get why people feel the need to corral and organize the shit out of everything with 'official' anything. In the 'good old days' gamers would make mods themselves, then host them at a variety of places like fileplanet, rpgheaven, moddb, nexus, or even their own websites. Now everything has to be unified under one umbrella, one website, one client. Some people might think that's convenience. I think it's laziness and shows lack of interest.

But the real problem is that Steam forces its mod integration into games that it distributes as part of the deal, as if that file structure and coding was meant to be part of the game itself. They have melded together, and not in a good way, IMO. People can spout the benefits of it and throw flow charts and university studies around all day long. At the end of the day, I think what Steam is doing with how it releases games and/or mods is fucking stupid. It's a bad idea. And bad ideas can't use solvable math.

Gaming as a hobby is changing from a universe of ideas and challenges to a bottled up morning after pill.
Posted September 23, 2015
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Emob78: snip
As I said, I am not fine with Steam using their power to force anything on the users or companies.

Apart from that I can't see a single sensible notion in your comment.
I couldn't care less if you don't want to use it or if you do because it doesn't prove that other people don't want to use it.

What is the harm in an official place for mods that doesn't require you to have purchased the game? I never said it should be the only mod site.
Post edited September 23, 2015 by 0Grapher
Posted September 23, 2015
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0Grapher: So, tell me how I can download Workshop mods without owning the game on Steam.
Here you are. Some games do seem to give it trouble, but it can download mods for other games just fine. Tried it with Shadowrun Returns that I don't own on Steam, Civ V and Prison Architect that I do own. Didn't work with Skyrim (which I do own) and Towerfall Ascension (which I don't own).
That was with a quick search, there may be other methods available.
Posted September 23, 2015
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JMich: snip
Thank you. I wonder if scripts like this one are safe.

Needless to say, I still don't agree with skeleton bow because there obviously is a major drawback to Steam Workshop if you have to use possibly illegal scripts.
Posted September 23, 2015
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0Grapher: Thank you. I wonder if scripts like this one are safe.
Good thing about such scripts is that you can check the code, and see if they do any funny business.

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0Grapher: if you have to use possibly illegal scripts.
No idea about the legality. The script queries the workshop page, the page returns the download info, then the script adds a button to download it. Too bad SimonG no longer frequents the forum, he should be able to comment on the legality of it.
Posted September 23, 2015
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0Grapher: Thank you. I wonder if scripts like this one are safe.
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JMich: Good thing about such scripts is that you can check the code, and see if they do any funny business.
Well, the only knowledge of scripting language I've got is what I could gather from looking at the python scripts for GOG's linux games.
I certainly am not the person who feels confident enough to check a program for malicious code.
Posted September 24, 2015
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Emob78: snip
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0Grapher: As I said, I am not fine with Steam using their power to force anything on the users or companies.

Apart from that I can't see a single sensible notion in your comment.
I couldn't care less if you don't want to use it or if you do because it doesn't prove that other people don't want to use it.

What is the harm in an official place for mods that doesn't require you to have purchased the game? I never said it should be the only mod site.
Because your version of official and my version of official might not want to shake hands and make sweet martian love in the back of a dune buggy. I don't believe in homogenizing the shit out of everything. Tends to water down the recipe.
Posted September 24, 2015
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Emob78: I don't believe in homogenizing the shit out of everything.
If that's the way how you think you should also be against fileplanet, rpgheaven, moddb, nexus.
Your stance doesn't make any sense.
Posted September 25, 2015
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Emob78: I just don't get why people feel the need to corral and organize the shit out of everything with 'official' anything. In the 'good old days' gamers would make mods themselves, then host them at a variety of places like fileplanet, rpgheaven, moddb, nexus, or even their own websites. Now everything has to be unified under one umbrella, one website, one client. Some people might think that's convenience. I think it's laziness and shows lack of interest.

But the real problem is that Steam forces its mod integration into games that it distributes as part of the deal, as if that file structure and coding was meant to be part of the game itself. They have melded together, and not in a good way, IMO. People can spout the benefits of it and throw flow charts and university studies around all day long. At the end of the day, I think what Steam is doing with how it releases games and/or mods is fucking stupid. It's a bad idea. And bad ideas can't use solvable math.

Gaming as a hobby is changing from a universe of ideas and challenges to a bottled up morning after pill.
Well said! (and upvoted)
Posted December 13, 2015
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0Grapher: In my opinion, it's great to have an official place where you can get mods but it shouldn't be tied to the store you bought your game on.

So, tell me how I can download Workshop mods without owning the game on Steam.
Last time I checked you could not do that.
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Emob78: I just don't get why people feel the need to corral and organize the shit out of everything with 'official' anything. In the 'good old days' gamers would make mods themselves, then host them at a variety of places like fileplanet, rpgheaven, moddb, nexus, or even their own websites. Now everything has to be unified under one umbrella, one website, one client. Some people might think that's convenience. I think it's laziness and shows lack of interest.

But the real problem is that Steam forces its mod integration into games that it distributes as part of the deal, as if that file structure and coding was meant to be part of the game itself. They have melded together, and not in a good way, IMO. People can spout the benefits of it and throw flow charts and university studies around all day long. At the end of the day, I think what Steam is doing with how it releases games and/or mods is fucking stupid. It's a bad idea. And bad ideas can't use solvable math.

Gaming as a hobby is changing from a universe of ideas and challenges to a bottled up morning after pill.
Steam does NOT force any mod integration if you don't want to use it in your title. This is just FUD. Devs have made that choice themselves, simply because workshop works. Doesn't mean I like it. Because it expects Steam won't ever go away, and that is stupid. Everything goes away some day. I am a bit of a history buff, and I am worried about the senseless amount of work that will become lost forever, because of DRM and stupid integrations like that. But it isn't forced on anyone. It is *our* fault as customers however, for not speaking up against it. Things like that should be open.

That being said.. I wish Bethesda releases their later titles here as well. Not just old ones.
Posted December 13, 2015
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Mithril.218: ...But it isn't forced on anyone. It is *our* fault as customers however, for not speaking up against it. Things like that should be open.

That being said.. I wish Bethesda releases their later titles here as well. Not just old ones.
Then it's forced by the devs who are supported by Steam in this. It doesn't matter really unless one is prepared to totally boycott Steam/.. and this is relatively hard.

All in all I also wish Bethesda would release more modern games here and actually use this distribution channel more. I would surely buy games from them here.
Posted December 13, 2015
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Mithril.218: ...But it isn't forced on anyone. It is *our* fault as customers however, for not speaking up against it. Things like that should be open.

That being said.. I wish Bethesda releases their later titles here as well. Not just old ones.
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Trilarion: Then it's forced by the devs who are supported by Steam in this. It doesn't matter really unless one is prepared to totally boycott Steam/.. and this is relatively hard.

All in all I also wish Bethesda would release more modern games here and actually use this distribution channel more. I would surely buy games from them here.
I look here first. Only if it isn't here I look at steam. I prefer not buying anything there if I can avoid it. Because here, I own the titles I buy. On steam I 'subscribe'. Which is a vast difference. Not many people really read the EULA these days.
Posted December 13, 2015
Bethesda: "No more games for you, you've had enuff."
Posted December 13, 2015
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tfishell: Bethesda: "No more games for you, you've had enuff."
To Bethesda: No more moneys for you, you've had enuff.

(coming from someone who bought all the Bethesda/Idsoft GOG titles)
Posted December 13, 2015
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Trilarion: Then it's forced by the devs who are supported by Steam in this. It doesn't matter really unless one is prepared to totally boycott Steam/.. and this is relatively hard.

All in all I also wish Bethesda would release more modern games here and actually use this distribution channel more. I would surely buy games from them here.
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Mithril.218: I look here first. Only if it isn't here I look at steam. I prefer not buying anything there if I can avoid it. Because here, I own the titles I buy. On steam I 'subscribe'. Which is a vast difference. Not many people really read the EULA these days.
What makes it unavoidable?
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