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Random_Coffee: I'm currently playing Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance 2, which is pretty awesome. I completely forgot Baldur's Gate had a console hack n slash spin-off, but I came across it recently and was positively surprised. I'll try to get the first one as well, but it's pretty rare, and prices aren't great.
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HunchBluntley: From what I've seen, prices are a lot higher for Dark Alliance 2, so if you got it fairly cheap, you're lucky. The first one was reissued as a 'Greatest Hits' title on the PS2, which probably means it originally sold enough to have all kinds of copies floating around for sale. Currently, the cheapest price Amazon shows a used copy of the second game being sold for -- for me, at least -- is about $29 U.S. (though a Japanese import copy is almost $10 cheaper); the first game, on the other hand, can be had (again, used) for under $10.
I'm playing it on Xbox though, and it seems to be slightly more expensive on that console. I don't think I've seen any rereleases of it ether (Greatest hits is a PS2-thing, but Xbox had a similar thing called Xbox Classics I think). Seeing your recommendation of the game now, I just want it more :D I'll keep looking for a decently priced one.

Champions of Norrath also looks really interesting, but it's for PS2 only, which I don't own.
Post edited January 10, 2016 by Random_Coffee
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Random_Coffee: I'm playing it on Xbox though, and it seems to be slightly more expensive on that console. I don't think I've seen any rereleases of it ether (Greatest hits is a PS2-thing, but Xbox had a similar thing called Xbox Classics I think). Seeing your recommendation of the game now, I just want it more :D I'll keep looking for a decently priced one.

Champions of Norrath also looks really interesting, but it's for PS2 only, which I don't own.
Ah, yeah, I shouldn't have assumed you meant PS2. On the plus side, though, used PlayStation 2s are probably no more expensive than many of the games for that console now. ;) Then again, Dark Alliance was also released for the Nintendo GameCube, so if you have one of those, or a Wii with backward compatibility, you could check prices for that console's version. That still wouldn't help you with the Champions games, though.
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HunchBluntley: Ah, yeah, I shouldn't have assumed you meant PS2. On the plus side, though, used PlayStation 2s are probably no more expensive than many of the games for that console now. ;) Then again, Dark Alliance was also released for the Nintendo GameCube, so if you have one of those, or a Wii with backward compatibility, you could check prices for that console's version. That still wouldn't help you with the Champions games, though.
Good news! I found a copy for Xbox today at a decent price :D I got lucky, just like I did with the second game :) (though I did pay slightly more for the first). I'll receive it in a few days, I'm hyped. Sixth generation consoles do have pretty good prices these days, that's true. The same goes for a lot of games (excluding the rare ones). Sometimes I pay more for shipping than I do for a game.. :P
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Random_Coffee: Good news! I found a copy for Xbox today at a decent price :D I got lucky, just like I did with the second game :) (though I did pay slightly more for the first). I'll receive it in a few days, I'm hyped. Sixth generation consoles do have pretty good prices these days, that's true. The same goes for a lot of games (excluding the rare ones). Sometimes I pay more for shipping than I do for a game.. :P
Awesome! If you need any tips when you're ready to play it (not that it's particularly difficult), let me know. : )
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HunchBluntley: Awesome! If you need any tips when you're ready to play it (not that it's particularly difficult), let me know. : )
Thanks! I'll keep that in mind. I'm very familiar with the gameplay of Dark Alliance 2 by now, so if it's any similar, I won't have any problems, but I'll let you know if I need some tips :)
Maybe Legend of Grimrock comes off as a dungeon hack and slash.

That is a good game too.
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tinyE: Has anyone mentioned FATE?

Okay so it will probably never go down on anyone's best of list but it's not a bad little time killer, and even the monsters are cute. :D
I thought it would be inevitable?
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tinyE: Has anyone mentioned FATE?

Okay so it will probably never go down on anyone's best of list but it's not a bad little time killer, and even the monsters are cute. :D
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nightcraw1er.488: I thought it would be inevitable?
That name makes it a bitch to find on line. XD Try to Google anything with the word FATE and the last thing you will get is any kind of a FAQ about a silly little dungeon crawler. It's like looking up 'X'. :P
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nightcraw1er.488: I thought it would be inevitable?
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tinyE: That name makes it a bitch to find on line. XD Try to Google anything with the word FATE and the last thing you will get is any kind of a FAQ about a silly little dungeon crawler. It's like looking up 'X'. :P
Surprised that google didn't put an Easter egg on that (or an accident they call it), like recently the search for Russian federacy returned mordor (it was the news), and French military victories having no results.

Why are you searching for X anyway, what did you expect to find, bit like searching for big hugs.
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tinyE: That name makes it a bitch to find on line. XD Try to Google anything with the word FATE and the last thing you will get is any kind of a FAQ about a silly little dungeon crawler. It's like looking up 'X'. :P
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nightcraw1er.488: Why are you searching for X anyway, what did you expect to find, bit like searching for big hugs.
The X series. Sold here. You have heard of them haven't you? :P 'Z' is another tough one.
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nightcraw1er.488: Why are you searching for X anyway, what did you expect to find, bit like searching for big hugs.
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tinyE: The X series. Sold here. You have heard of them haven't you? :P 'Z' is another tough one.
Ah ok. Its the twitchers (bird watchers) I feel sorry for, try finding bird watching and tits.
Diablo 2 LOD
Titan Quest
I see that many have recommended Path of Exile. I agree that overall it's a good game, however, you should also know that:

-It's extremely repetitive. You'll basically have to run the same 4 chapters THRICE (once in every difficulty level) just to gain access to "maps". Maps are 'instances' or 'dungeons' that act as end game content. Sounds cool right? Yeah, except that they are basically carbon copies of the same zones you visited again and again while leveling; the main difference with normal areas is that they drop more items and are inhabited by high level monsters (more exp, better loot).
So, with the exception of a few super-rare unique maps, you'll find no real original content in PoE. Then again, massively recycled content is a recurring problem of every Diablo clone I've tried so far, so if you like the genre perhaps this won't be an issue for you. YMMV.

-There's no money in game. Instead, the economy is based on a weird barter system, in which players exchange items and orbs (enchanting/crafting material that are actually useful). Since good gear is so rare to come by, sooner or later you'll be pretty much forced to trade with other players, and that's where the problems begin.
The game doesn't have any kind of automated auction house, the devs don't want that; there's only a trade chat, which unfortunately is infested by the worst scum you'll ever encounter in PoE. No matter who you ask in there, chances are they'll try to scam the heck out of you. The only sensible thing you can do is rely on third-party websites dedicated to trading, where scammers are less common. Notice that by "relying" I really mean "monitor the site several times a day for who knows how many days".
The other problem is that you won't know exactly what's an item worth, as their values aren't written in stone. In fact, they aren't written ANYWHERE on the Internet (no, I'm not kidding, try to google "poe currency ratios" you'll never find anything conclusive). You could try asking in global chat, but they won't tell you, because they're understandably sick of hearing the same questions 4 times per minute. They'll be very happy to debate your parents' sexuality, though.

-Huge learning curve. The talent tree is... well, unique. It's extremely complex and versatile, and it's what allows every class to cover almost every possible role. The fact that GGG could keep it (reasonably) balanced is nothing short of amazing.To tell the truth, I thought it was confusing more than anything, but I can see why people like it. If you're dumb like me you can just follow a guide, that's not a problem.
The problem is, in PoE there's no way to respect at will. Yes, you do get a free talent reset every major balance patch, i.e. every 3 months or so. But in the meanwhile, if you mess up your talent tree, no, you can't correct that, go make another character and start over. That's the official developers' stance on this, go figure...
This is a huge blow to the versatility of the talent tree: it means you'll never be able to explore it freely. Making different builds (or variations of a build) by trial and error simply isn't possible, unless you're willing to invest another X shitton extra hours leveling a new character every time you mess up, OR theorycrafting with spreadsheets and talent calculators.

TLDR: good game with nice graphics/settings/characters, impressive combat and talent system, but ruined by the lack of fresh content, respec options, ingame auction house, and of course let's not forget the extremely toxic playerbase.

If you don't mind any of these points and love grinding, haggling and theorycrafting, then PoE is probably the perfect game for you.
Post edited January 11, 2016 by Avogadro6
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Avogadro6: ...snip
If you don't mind any of these points and love grinding, haggling and theorycrafting, then PoE is probably the perfect game for you.
And its online only.