Posted March 23, 2016

Oriza-Triznyák
garbage features like achievements.
Registered: Apr 2009
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GoodOldJim
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Registered: Jun 2009
From Canada
Posted March 23, 2016



HereForTheBeer
Positive Patty
Registered: Oct 2009
From United States
Posted March 24, 2016

If these "Muslims" only saw themselves as such, I would not approach them for that. I do not like religion in public life at all, or as an over-arching identity that much, personally.
But also, you'd probably not suggest this benevolent and tolerant approach to get to know Catholics, to highlight that Catholics might be individuals, I suspect? And potential friends?
Maybe you are quite tolerant. Only, it should also apply close to home.
I don't mean to single out Muslims. It's just that's the particular direction this discussion has headed. The general gist applies to any group different than those a person normally associates with: before generalizing, why not actually talk to some of them?

HereForTheBeer
Positive Patty
Registered: Oct 2009
From United States
Posted March 24, 2016
I don't suggest doing nothing. I suggest doing something, and that is this: before suggesting that a billion people of a particular religion should be wiped off the face of the Earth, you could take a little bit of time to actually talk to some of them. I have had the opportunity, and found absolutely nothing in them of the crap you're blathering about.

vsr
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Registered: Jun 2012
From Russian Federation
Posted March 24, 2016

Russia fights radical islamists for a long time now. Islamic religious leaders (imams) in Russia are a constant target for extremists now (especially on Caucasus). A lot of them were killed. It is important to distinguish extremism from a peaceful religion.
More on the Russia's continuous fight against , can be [url=http://sputniknews.com/analysis/20140829/192468401/Wahhabism-Threatens-Traditional-Muslims-in-Central-Russia.html]<span class="bold">read here</span>, if anyone interested.
USA always were defending these bandits, calling them "Freedom fighters", putting a spoke in the wheel of Russia. Why? Because everything what is bad for Russia is automatically good for USA. Yes, if it's too hard to become more powerful (economics, military, culture), make your opponent weaker. Problem solved, American-way.
More on why USA supports Saudi Arabia, a country which hosts and finances Islamic terrorism, can be <span class="bold">read here</span>.

AzureKite
Net Slum remnant
Registered: Jan 2010
From Ukraine
Posted March 24, 2016
Terrorism is all about ideas and meeting goals for such ideas. Strong ideas, be they some radical religion or ethnic group (imagined or not) privileges, are the basis for terrorism. You can't successfully fight such ideas with weapons no matter how many bombs or bullets you're sending that way. Weapons may seem the easiest means to break the isolation of the said religious or ethnic group to force them to open their minds for exchange of ideas, but it is just much more effective in deepening the isolation and bumping up the numbers of supporters. Give or take, you can fight any idea only with a stronger one. Hammer is not an idea, it's just a tool for different purposes.

Klumpen0815
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Registered: Dec 2012
From Germany
Posted March 24, 2016

Post edited March 24, 2016 by Klumpen0815

manero666
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AzureKite
Net Slum remnant
Registered: Jan 2010
From Ukraine
Posted March 24, 2016

guess who are the terrorists? hezbollah, kurdistan, iran? what a joke...

AzureKite
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Registered: Jan 2010
From Ukraine
Posted March 24, 2016



jamotide
Jack Keane 2016!
Registered: Jul 2011
From Netherlands
Posted March 24, 2016
As if that's relevant. The only thing that matters is if they are on your side or the enemies. No US official would call the CIA actions in Cuba terrorism. But if the Cubans had blown up ports, planes and boats in Florida, they would be called terrorists.

AzureKite
Net Slum remnant
Registered: Jan 2010
From Ukraine
Posted March 24, 2016


As if you or me actually give a damn about what official sources say. Heh.
Post edited March 24, 2016 by AzureKite

Dalthnock
Born butt first. Doc said, It's an asshole!
Registered: Dec 2014
From Portugal
Posted March 24, 2016
I'll just leave this here...
https://www.rt.com/news/336985-brussels-terror-nuclear-plants/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0oBx7Jg4m-o
https://www.rt.com/news/336985-brussels-terror-nuclear-plants/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0oBx7Jg4m-o
Post edited March 24, 2016 by Dalthnock

jamotide
Jack Keane 2016!
Registered: Jul 2011
From Netherlands
Posted March 24, 2016
Ideally, yeah. But the reality is much different. Only the opposing side are terrorists, regardless of whether they attack civilians or not. When the insurgents in Iraq attacked military installations they were called terrorists.

AzureKite
Net Slum remnant
Registered: Jan 2010
From Ukraine
Posted March 24, 2016


But if we drop the precise definitions and blur them in the way that we won't call any such act towards civilians as a terrorist act then we will have fargoing issues in the future. Someone has to stick to the dictionary.
Post edited March 24, 2016 by AzureKite