Seems so. I misunderstood that each half can act as a single controller, but that doesn't seem to be a case. For instance this video clip gave me the wrong idea that two separate players were keeping the halves in their hands (at 38 seconds):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rd5qsmnCklo&t=38s

So I guess I need to buy one or two full gamepads for the system. Probably two because I'd probably keep those two "halves" always attached to the main system because removing them and re-inserting (for charging) seems a bit of work...

Well i belief stellaris made a nice transition to be frank
and with the new superhardware in both major consoles its not to say what will happen!


at least turn based variants Age of Wonders : Planetfall and of course the x-com look a likes are already a joy to play, as are managers such as Jurassic Park and Railway Empire

If anything, games are *less* violent and *less* sexual than what they used to be, by a long shot, remember that back then we didn't had ratings and all that crap

Ok, even as a dedicated PC gamer, I found this sarcastic video funny as heck:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymVMyUCxwQQ

Yeah, how to spot a true PC gamer...

Necromancy I say! :D

I'm probably in a bubble. Console gaming was not a popular thing in my circle. Most of us (family and friends) were on Amigas back then before going to Win95 and frequented LAN parties often when those started. Hopefully with the pandemic letting up I can go back to hosting and seeing my kids and grand kids in person when gaming more often. I hosted LAN games in my gaming basement from 1998 to 2019. Online gaming is just not for me anymore.

I'm not sure why console games were not around me more when I was younger but I remember the arcades being a big deal until computers & consoles started hitting homes. When it came time to either buy a console or a computer, computers were just what my parents leaned into. If I could do HW and game on it, it was fine. To just get a device only for games was not something they were comfortable with. It did not bother me either way since I was already use to playing computer games when visiting family. I had cousins that would make copies of them floppies and pass me their games ad vice versa.

It was only in college where I met a lot of console gamers that scoffed at computer gaming like in that vid by OP. Even then they came around when Quake events started up on campus and such. I lived in the computer interest floor and it was LAN gaming every night. I still rock games with these ppl every now and then.

I was on gamepads on my Amiga and still rock gamepads for my games on my computer today the whole lack of knowledge around computer gaming is starting to fade out but I remember some of my buddies in college bugging out when they saw me playing games with controllers.

Another sarcastic video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrkRliHHjFk

Consoles was there from the beginning, and Nintendo, Sony and MS does everything to make them still relevant and cool. Actually, most reporters/journalists/interviewers/youtubers/streamers usually have no idea what they talk about anyway. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=taUtdS0ivqg

("Just a friendly, but minor warning to the mods"):

- First, it's funny to see this because most people don't know how to handle or react properly to an intelligent and well-spoken actor that can think for himself (in this case a man, an actor, AND a gamer), and if you're looking at first clip (or most clips), every woman is more or less sliding off their seat... and it's not because of his brain (or it's just pure boredom if they really don't like that sort of nerd-babbling).

- Second, it's like with many Apple users - they are sold on the name and popularity. They usually swirl themselves with likemindedness, and so it's a little unthinkable to them to be using another system.

- Third; consoles are the coolest thing for lazy people (in some circles). They just want to push a button and then play without a single thought to how MS or Sony have monopoly. It's too hard to "work" on a PC, you know? (But they usually cry when they can't mod, cheat, or change anything, or when they realize that they have little to no freedom.) :P

- Fourth; Cavill could have been beaten that smug reporter(s) with his cerebral nerdness if he really would let loose his inner nerd power! He is neither apologetic nor afraid to talk about it either, which makes him even more respectable in my eyes.

I too often hear this at work (mostly other departments) and other places, and honestly, it usually come from people who have little knowledge about computing, how such things work in general, and/or they're just not into such things... not saying all, but many seem to not be much knowledgeable about computing and how it works in general.

PC is still mostly for those with a hunger for technical knowledge.


I've watched it three times now, and I still have no idea what he's talking about...

That was sarcasm, but I'm a little allergic to use /s and that kind...

But the way I see it, the more he uses a mouse and keyboard, the more he tries so hard to distance himself from the console. And at the end he just doesn't care anymore, as in fully converted! I don't know, maybe I'm missing something here too... :D

This is some false accusation and victim persecution complex here that isn't reflective of modern society's take on PC gamers.

In 2019, PC gaming comprised 24% of the entire market and is growing while consoles were 30% with the rest being mobile. When nearly 1 in 4 gamers are playing on PC and nearly 1 in 3 gamers own consoles, in what way are we being attacked for our personal choices of how we choose to play our games given we have nearly the same population on a global scale? No, he never said that. He asked if PC gaming came from if [when Henry] was younger and then asked if he build his own PC before. Nothing about an evil stepfather. There's no data suggesting this - another false accusation fueled by a victimization complex. PC is a prominent logo on the website and on the official E3 trailer. When you google the game, its Steam rating is prominent on the side result and "Microsoft Windows" is a listed platform.

- https://www.cyberpunk.net/ca/en/

- https://youtu.be/qIcTM8WXFjk?t=238

If you think there's more advertising for console, it's because most people don't care about info that's not relevant to them and it works both ways. I don't own a PS5 or Xbox Series X, so I don't care about any news regarding their product or games. It's the convenience factor. Most console gamers buy a game expecting it to work out-of-box. All the power to them. Initial costs are cheaper on consoles after all and they pay for this with often higher prices on their games and multiplayer subscription fees. This tech journalist did a reasonable analysis comparing the costs between consoles and PC and found an average $1400 initial cost of a PC is comparable to a console with 60 games and a multiplayer subscription.

Most PC gamers are aware that they might need to upgrade their builds before they can play it at reasonable graphics settings. And GPU stocks were difficult to get a hold of after Sept 2020 and the issue still persists to this day.

Preorders are not indicative of the entire population - they're indicative of two demographics: innovators and adopters. Innovators represent the 2%, the tech reviewers and self-motivators who are updated on purchases and the adopters are the next in line waiting to see reviews before they commit to purchasing. Together, these demographics typically represent 17% of the entire market.

We need to stop this platform tribalism. Who cares if people play their games on their PS5, an Xbox X, a Switch, PC, or mobile. I don't respect people's opinions who bash PC gaming, but I also certainly don't respect the opinions of PC gamers who think they're being persecuted and/or have a compelling need to display their elitism and superiority over console gamers.

Honestly, I hope some of you aren't taking the "master race" moniker seriously because it's 100% satire.

Same here.


It would be fine if they wouldn't dumb down and use very bad menus just to bring games out for consoles.

Looks like XBOX won't have console exclusive games, hope PS will follow.
Yeah people should play on what they want , except mobiles , mobile gaming is garbage.

Being mainly how being a "true PC gamer" apparently means you will change the FOV in your FPS games to insane levels, just so that you can see more around you. The longer he has been a "PC gamer", the insaner his FOV becomes.

EDIT: Another, minor, thing seemed to be that the noise level of him banging his keyboard seemed to raise, the longer he had been a PC gamer.

This is something I've certainly noticed when watching on Youtube some pro gamers playing e.g. Team Fotress 2, and always be like "Damn that extreme FOV looks so comical, with those long arms and whatnot". Another thing they tend to make is to minimize all graphics settings making everything look bland, just so that they can get constant 200+ frames per second all the time.

I am not totally free of that myself, I have also increased the FOV somewhat in Team Fortress 2 just so that I can see easier if an enemy is approaching from the sides. and sometimes I get myself thinking:

"Why on earth is that teammate so blind??? Didn't he see that enemy was just next to him???
....
Oh, he is probably a newbie with standard FOV, so of course he is blind, like a horse with sideview blinders so that he can't see to the sides..."

High FOV is for herbivores the preys :D

Don't take it personally.

You caught me, I added that myself to the dramatic effect. You are very observant.

It is still a fact the reviewer didn't seem to even think of the possibility he was playing The Witcher 3 on PC, hence he asked only on which console ("Playstation or XBox?", even after Henry had already stated he was always a "big PC gamer". And yes the reviewer did seem quite surprised of the fact he was playing on a PC ("Oh wow? You're a PC gamer?!?"), and started asking more about why on PC, as if that surprising fact needs some extra reasoning. If Henry had said "XBox", do you think the reviewer would have asked "Oh wow, you are an XBox gamer?!? Was that because you were young and...????".

Ok, now you lost your attention and you are not so observant anymore.

I wasn't talking about advertising and whether the PC/Steam logo was listed there too, but news articles about the game which very much concentrated on the console versions of the games, and the PC version maybe mentioned briefly later in the articles (if at all), especially when we are talking about non-gaming media which were reporting about the game.

Admittedly, this is partly because it was the console versions which had the biggest problems, but the PC version had too.

For instance, the articles I read about the game (and its problems) in e.g. Helsingin Sanomat (which is our local biggest newspaper) gave also that impression that it is foremost a console game.

Ok, so now to the meta-discussion part.

First I must reveal to you that I started this thread with a tongue firmly attached to my cheek. So if you felt this was about me whining how unfair the world and media is against PC gamers and we must rise to take our rightful place in the food chain, you are just wrong.

Yet, at the same time, my meaning was indeed to raise some observations how PC gaming in general appears to be hidden at least in non-PC gaming media gaming news. (For instance, the Helsingin Sanomat newspaper that I mentioned, sometimes publishes articles about games... and to me they always appear to be about the console versions (or sometimes even console-only games, like The Last of Us 2 and the Switch version of Monster Hunter). Even the CP2077 articles were very console-centric.

Do I think this is some kind of big problem that needs to be fixed? Not really, just an observation how it still seems to be considered abnormal and somewhat surprising for someone being prominently a PC gamer, which I've also seen in my two colleagues (one of which plainly asked me why am I looking forward to buying a gaming PC (laptop) and not just buy a PS4 and be done with it, ie. yes he was wondering why I would want to play games on PC).

Yes I am mostly a PC gamer, ever since I was a kid I preferred playing (and buying) home computers because I could do other stuff on them besides _just_ gaming, my first gaming machine being Texas Instruments TI-99/4A, for which I even programmed some pretty good games myself on TI-BASIC. Back then I just didn't see the point of buying a "only for games" console when for about the same amount of money I could get a computer that could do more beside just that. (And back then operating those home computers wasn't necessarily any harder than Atari VCS/Mattel Intellivision/Colecovision; similarly on TI-99/4A, you just popped in a gaming cartridge, switched on the computer, and started playing the game).

Later when I started having money of my own and having more of it, I bought also consoles like Playstation, PS2 (which I still have), and last Xmas, I bought a Nintendo Switch mainly for my kids (to play Minecraft, for now).

So suggesting that I e.g. refuse to buy or play on consoles is incorrect of course (I've been actually thinking of buying The Witcher 3 also for Switch, if I can catch it on a good price). But yeah, I personally much prefer PC gaming overall. So sue me.

EDIT: Partly my preference for PC gaming nowadays comes from... *drum roll* DRM-free gaming, which is why I am on gog.com after all. As far as I can tell, "DRM-free" is pretty much an unknown concept on modern consoles (and the older consoles were also very strict on copy protections, even if you didn't call it "DRM").

Related to that, PC, as it is, is the "mother", or "haven", of all gaming devices, past and new. Which is the gaming device where you can play games from e.g. all of these systems:
- Mattel Intellivision
- Colecovision
- Texas Instruments TI-99/4A
- various arcade coin ops
- SNES
- Commodore 64
- Commodore Amiga
- Vectrex
- PSX
- Playstation 2
- Nintendo 64
- Gamecube

as well as modern games like Cyberpunk 2077, Call of Duty Modern Warfare 4 Black Ops 5 etc., or older Windows 9x era Windows games as well, not to mention even older MS-DOS games?

It certainly isn't XBox Series Y or Playstation 5. That alone does grant PC gaming a special place in my heart: it is the archive and museum also for old dead systems (and game generations) to exist.

Anyways, many others are fine to playing mostly or only on consoles, and that is fine as well. PC gaming generally needs more initial investments (unless one is ready to play mostly just older, less demanding, PC games, which is a possibility as well and which is what I am doing currently) so it certainly makes sense for many to buy a $200-300 console instead.