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Posted May 01, 2018
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tinyE: This thread is quickly becoming a Westboro Baptist Church meeting.
No, average people are against this sick crap.

Also... as usual, absolutely nothing to add.
Posted May 01, 2018
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pmcollectorboy: *snort* That's hysterical. "Modern age enlightenment" indeed.
The enlightenment. The rise of reason in the last 400 years.
Posted May 01, 2018
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Fairfox: holy crap to both "your kind" an' teh second paragraph
What exactly do you think I mean to that? Second paragraph is a statement of truth.

Holy crap to your fucking writing.
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Lucian_Galca: No kidding, how hard is it to just respect someone's existence and leave them be?
You mean the people trying to change society around them? No... of course not... you mean people like me who are against their anti-science bullshit.
Post edited May 01, 2018 by GreasyDogMeat
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Posted May 01, 2018
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Hi!

This whole thing is rather personal to me, I'm the parent of a transgender child, she's now fifteen and it upsets me to read the ignorance here in this thread, not that I'll be losing sleep as I'm quite used to it now. I've lived with my child for fifteen years and watched her grow, always a few steps ahead of me with me catching up along the way.

It would take me paragraphs to try to explain our journey and my learning.

Gender dysphoria is a thing, get over it, in the same way people had to get over mixed marriages or gay people or what ever bigoted view they had.

But 'they'! in a game as an option in the beginning never to be seen again. If you are offended by that you are ignorant and sorry but bigoted. You can intellectualis it and go on about social constructs and blah blah blah and such, but ultimately if you are a decent person you must let people be what ever or who ever they want to be or are and commend anyone who helps them feel included, like by putting the option of 'they' as a pronoun.
Posted May 01, 2018
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LootHunter: Good. And you should also clarify if you mean "have male protagonist" or "have only male protagonist".
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dtgreene: Those with only male protagonists vastly outnumber those with only female protagonists.

Of course, there are games where you can choose to play a male or a female character (and rarely, a non-binary character, but that isn't common). With that said, I have seen games where you create your character, but that character has to be male (Eschalon Book 1 comes to mind); I have not, however, seem any games that force you to create a female character.
You know there are games where the PC is a female, and why not.

If they let you create the character, not letting the PC be a female, might be laziness/lack of resources in a very tight budget game as Eschalon is.

Actually, even if a game is interactive and all that, it is providing you with graphics (unless it is a pure text game). Therefore the immersion, while great, falls below what a written story, such as they come in those devices we call books. And literature boasts plenty of female points of view, as well as male.

So why not getting into the skin of people who might be unlike the player or reader is, if the experience will engross the player or, better, will help the reader grow as a person with a few grains of truth told beautifully, condensed from the entrails of the writer and what the writer managed to learn about the world?
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louitrilobite: ultimately if you are a decent person you must let people be what ever or who ever they want to be
This.
Post edited May 01, 2018 by Carradice
Posted May 01, 2018
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louitrilobite: Hi!

This whole thing is rather personal to me, I'm the parent of a transgender child, she's now fifteen and it upsets me to read the ignorance here in this thread, not that I'll be losing sleep as I'm quite used to it now. I've lived with my child for fifteen years and watched her grow, always a few steps ahead of me with me catching up along the way.

It would take me paragraphs to try to explain our journey and my learning.

Gender dysphoria is a thing, get over it, in the same way people had to get over mixed marriages or gay people or what ever bigoted view they had.

But 'they'! in a game as an option in the beginning never to be seen again. If you are offended by that you are ignorant and sorry but bigoted. You can intellectualis it and go on about social constructs and blah blah blah and such, but ultimately if you are a decent person you must let people be what ever or who ever they want to be or are and commend anyone who helps them feel included, like by putting the option of 'they' as a pronoun.
Well said, you sound like a good parent. :)
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louitrilobite: Gender dysphoria is a thing, get over it, in the same way people had to get over mixed marriages or gay people or what ever bigoted view they had.
As are numerous kinds of birth defects, diseases and abnormalities too numerous to list.

What the fuck do you think I'm suggesting exactly?

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louitrilobite: if you are a decent person you must let people be what ever or who ever they want
The path to accepting pedophilia as mainstream is well on it's way.
Posted May 01, 2018
I know there are Blues on line right now.

WTF are they doing?

I wasn't aware GOG was all of a sudden okay with the forum being used as a vehicle for hate speech.
Post edited May 01, 2018 by tinyE
Posted May 01, 2018
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tinyE: I know there are Blues on line right now.

WTF are they doing?
Being distracted by your worthless posts. Imagine what they could accomplish if they didn't have to look over your inane crap.
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tinyE: I wasn't aware GOG was all of a sudden okay with the forum being used as a vehicle for hate speech.
Point out that 'hate speech'. Go ahead... I'll wait.
Post edited May 01, 2018 by GreasyDogMeat
Posted May 01, 2018
the racism does not come from the identities of characters in fiction, the racism comes from creators wanting the entire world to submit to the USA's ideas about race.
Posted May 01, 2018
You certainly live up to your username. Not sure if the emphasis should be placed on the greasy or on the dogmeat.
Posted May 01, 2018
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louitrilobite: Gender dysphoria is a thing, get over it, in the same way people had to get over mixed marriages or gay people or what ever bigoted view they had.
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GreasyDogMeat: As are numerous kinds of birth defects, diseases and abnormalities too numerous to list.

What the fuck do you think I'm suggesting exactly?

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louitrilobite: if you are a decent person you must let people be what ever or who ever they want
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GreasyDogMeat: The path to accepting pedophilia as mainstream is well on it's way.
What! There is no correlation between pedophilia and gender dysphoria, one involves abusing children, which how ever abhorrent I or you may find it, is a moral issue, the other is a sense of identity.
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pmcollectorboy: You certainly live up to your username. Not sure if the emphasis should be placed on the greasy or on the dogmeat.
If you can't respond to the points attack the person.
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louitrilobite: What! There is no correlation between pedophilia and gender dysphoria, one involves abusing children, which how ever abhorrent I or you may find it, is a moral issue, the other is a sense of identity.
I never suggested there was a correlation between the two. The point was how these issues are being forced on society. It is one thing to preach tolerance... something I actually practice... believe it or not. It is another to force things on people, like surgeries on fucking children who will end up killing themselves in adulthood because their lives have been ruined by radical progressive clueless parents. And no I'm not suggesting you are one of those.
Post edited May 01, 2018 by GreasyDogMeat
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louitrilobite: but ultimately if you are a decent person you must let people be what ever or who ever they want to be or are and commend anyone who helps them feel included, like by putting the option of 'they' as a pronoun.
I am totally on your side if this would be pushed by transgender people to be more accepted or have a denoted place, but the pronoun game is mainly and very loudly pushed with pseudo science by progressives(some also transgender) with a lot of ideological baggage you buy into by accepting it. I have nothing against a "They" in a game, but I have something against a political agenda in a game.
Post edited May 01, 2018 by Arundir
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