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General discussionBattleTech is racist.(383 posts) (383 posts) 
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Posted April 25, 2018
You know what's racist? Oddworld. Why did the devs not allow me to choose a slig as player character? They are a sentient species, too!
Posted April 25, 2018
Consider it payback for all those movies based on Bible stories where everyone is the wrong pigment. :D
Posted April 25, 2018
Looking at the screenshots on the gamecard, I see several white people. And most of them are men (not sure why it should matter though).
Posted April 25, 2018
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Breja: I'm probably going to greatly regret joining this conversation at all but here goes:

I don't believe that simply not having some group (any combination of skin color/gender/sexual orientation) represented is discrimination. Thinking like that only leads to ridiculous tokenism. As long as the game/book/movie whatever is good I honestly don't care if there's not a single white guy there, or if all the characters are white guys.
I tend to agree. I'm not gonna blast Battletech for not having white guys just like I'm not gonna blast Kingdom Come for not having black guys.
Posted April 25, 2018
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fortune_p_dawg: i am black and honestly, as someone who keeps his distance from most news/media/etc the race stuff barely registers as a blip on my day-to-day radar. don't really care too much about the general public's opinions, thoughts, hopes, or dreams. ultimately i take care of myself and my family and i have no complaints.

however, it does seem these days that many devs to have a socio-political bent of some sort. again, their opinions on matters of sociological upheavals and economic downturns are by and large meaningless to me, however when i notice it in-game it takes me out of the experience and i usually turn the game off for good. i have not tried battletech yet but i really really enjoyed shadowrun dragonfall and hong kong, and i do not recall them leaning in a specific racial direction.
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tremere110: Dragonfall and Hong Kong are incredibly racist. The only way to play as an elf was to create one. What's with all the hate for the pointy eared dandelion eaters?
elves lol
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fortune_p_dawg: however, it does seem these days that many devs to have a socio-political bent of some sort.
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Vainamoinen: Which is in no perceivable way different from developers (and storytellers in general) yesterday. It's just that yesterday's devs were sustaining the status quo, the perceived norm, particularly in racial issues. Today's don't, and having grown up with media created with the perceived norm in mind, you start thinking that those didn't have a "socio-political bent" back then, but of course they did: They normalized whiteness and (best case scenario) exotified POC. That's literally communicating conservative values, if you wish. Today's devs go another route. Tough beans for some.
i love beans!

and, by the way i don't entirely disagree, i just feel that many of today's devs are pandering. don't get me wrong i love indie games and i love today's indie scene. the difference between unknowingly (which back then it felt more unknowing but maybe that's because of the 'perceived norm' thing) maintaining the status quo as it applies to game development and inserting x many brown & lgbtq people to knowingly meet a new status quo and appear as diverse as possible just feels entirely disingenuous. seems these days walking the line between being a keyboard politician and someone who makes games that feel natural is near impossible.

i've always known that in the united states that i'm a minority, and i'm not going to wake up tomorrow and have allusions that black people have all of the sudden become 50% of the american population. sure representation is nice but i keep my expectations in check. i don't expect the games i buy to be littered with brown people because you know what, people ultimately stick to what they know, and a lot of game development teams are headed up by white dudes (nothing necessarily wrong with that, and i play many many of these titles). i've been following the indie scene since 2005 and believe me, just out of curiosity i've googled "all black game dev team" a time or two every year since and the results yield nothing of substance.

you know what the indie games scene needs? an indie studio headed by a black person, not white people shoehorning brown people into their games because 'progress.' nothing against white people either, it's just that in my mind the former is better than the latter, because forced representation is just... cheesy and offensive.
Post edited April 25, 2018 by fortune_p_dawg
Posted April 25, 2018
Jared Leto joining yakuza - that's racist.

Seriously, not every piece of media needs every race, religion and sexual orientation to be present.
Post edited April 25, 2018 by Frozen
Posted April 25, 2018
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saldite: A white man or a human? If the latter, what were you before you were human?
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Vainamoinen: Just to totally kill the conversation, I'm going to say "a parasite".
FTFY
Posted April 25, 2018
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fortune_p_dawg: i love beans!
What happened to brussels sprouts?
Posted April 25, 2018
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Socratatus: After playing battletech for a while now, I call battletech racist to WHITE people.
That's silly, I've been told you can't be racist towards white people.
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Socratatus: White men are Human too.
Some of them, although I'm pretty sure some are lizards.
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Socratatus: I had to write this; i`m sure it`ll be banned or deleted.
No worries, it takes a lot to get banned on these forums, although the thread might get locked if it gets too crazy.
Posted April 25, 2018
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fortune_p_dawg: i love beans!
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tremere110: What happened to brussels sprouts?
and i still love brussels sprouts though they are out of season, so the only ones available right now are weird gigantic mutant sprouts grown in ethiopia.
Posted April 25, 2018
As a white man, I don't give a flying fuck if BattleTech has white men in it. I'm plenty (over-)represented in media as it is, thank you very much.
Posted April 25, 2018
Umm.. I'm frankly against the forced inclusion of all genres, sexes and races in games\movies just to be politically correct.
Maybe some games that rely on character creation or immersion will suffer by that, but that's the creator's choice.
Some black people piloting mechs doesn't seem a big issue to me O_o

(btw exceptions could exist in the worst cases)
Post edited April 25, 2018 by phaolo
Posted April 25, 2018
You know what they say.... Once you go black....
Posted April 25, 2018
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Vainamoinen: Oh, so white people being represented by women is racist?

Sorry. But that's misogynist.
Why are you whitesplaining to a POC?

Shouldn't you be shutting up, listening and learning from their experiences?

Check your privilege, you incredibly racist alt-right nazi bigot.
Posted April 25, 2018
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pmcollectorboy: Consider it payback for all those movies based on Bible stories where everyone is the wrong pigment. :D
OH YEAH BABY!

You da man!
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