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I am interested in building a new PC ahead of Cyberpunk 2077's release. But that said, I was aware of the Zen 3 launch and I was going to wait until the start of November to start making purchases.

I doubt the new CPUs will come out before the end of November and I imagine they'll be quite supply constrained, especially given the current situation. But that said, at the very least, the anticipation of new CPU releases could lower the price of older CPUs (was thinking of picking up a Ryzen 3600).

Yep, that sounds wicked. I'll probably upgrade (though not before next year) if those numbers turn out to be real.

But yeah it'll be difficult to decide between 12 and 16 cores.

I'm not so sure there will be supply lack: AMD have secured around 30% of TSMC production capacity which, to say it all, is split among: console APUs, APUs, GPUs and chiplets, the supply should be decent if not good.

https://www.cpu-monkey.com/en/cpu_family-amd_ryzen-32

https://www.cpu-monkey.com/en/cpu_benchmark-cinebench_r20_single_core-9

Ryzen 5 5600X 4.0 - 4.6GHz 6C/12T
Ryzen 7 5800X 4.0 - 4.8GHz 8C/16T
Ryzen 9 5900X 3.8 - 4.8GHz 12C/24T
Ryzen 9 5950X 3.7 - 4.9GHz 16C/32T

Latest rumors say we will get new CPUs on either Oct 20th or 27th and Navi 2 GPUs on late November.

AMD graphics will be unlikely to surpass Nvidia, same way AMD processors will be unlikely to surpass Intel. AMD will most likely remain the budget brand.

They've long since surpassed NVidia on the driver front though.

No, my ryzen 5 2600 experience was one that could be called less then desirable

while overal performance was more then oke the cpu just fell short in the departments that i find of concern
with that said, i would maybe be less of a critic with a higher grade cpu, that much is true. When i had enough money to consider an upgrade i decided on purchasing a intel i5 10th gen cpu with a new motherboard instead of trying out either a 3800x or the 3900x.

The 10600k i bought does deliver above and beyond so this will mean that my next purchase will fall into the blue house for sure

The moral here is i guess that if you are ( also ) an avid gamer don't cut your budget cpu wise

I agree that lack of driver updates for AMD's mobile chips is really disappointing. I have heard of this before. Hopefully AMD are hiring and training more software engineers and programmers nowadays.

Wow! Ryzren benchmarks out already. I had hoped for something like 17-20% improvement but 14-15% is not bad either, just not sure an upgrade will be worth it from a 3000 series. Those on earlier (eg 2700X) processors should consider if their motherboards can do it as that would make for quite the leap. Some quick maths give ~60% expected improvement in one particular game but others will not be that dramatic.

I hope the power draw stays reasonable. That may lead to a new Ryzen being as fast as one of the top CPUs from Intel's 10,000 series if your cooling is not top notch.

No, I'm definitely not about to buy a Ryzen-based desktop. AMD CPUs always have much worse clock speeds than Intel ones, so no sense buying AMD.

And I'm sure the Intel 11th gen desktop CPUs that are probably coming in a few months will trounce these new Ryzens, as usual.

I currently still have a Intel+Nvidia Desktop (from 2011-2013), but I bought a new laptop (although not a "gaming" on) with a Ryzen+ 3500U and while the USB ports weren't optimum during the very first months after release (the kernel updates made them very smooths for some time now), I am very happy of it.

I intend to have a AMD Ryzen Desktop in the next years, because:
− if Intel CPU may be better than AMD ones at instant T, if/when new security flaws appear, downgrading the Intel CPU... What's the point?
− Nvidia GPU... well you know what it is about with Linux drivers

For specifics, I don't know, I still have low expectations for my current use (office, gaming, etc...) and taste. Time will tell.

With me I already got a Ryzen 3700X this past summer so I am pretty much good to go. I am going to be upgrading my graphics card sometime next year..

I'm still thinking about it, my current Ryzen 1700X hasn't let me down in over 3 years and I can imagine the improvements these new cpu's will bring compared to it. For most of the AAA games I play I still get over 70-80 fps (100+ in older titles).

Should I decide otherwise, I'll end up with 2 Ryzen systems, I don't like selling old systems as they lose lots of value and I'd rather find another use for them.

Won't be getting a new CPU anytime soon to replace my Ryzen 3700X. 8 cores @4.3ghz is plenty. Most games see much bigger performance gains from GPUs anyways.