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Emob78: Trump? Bombing innocent people with rockets and bombs? Oh, at first I thought you were talking about Obama. Had them mistaken for a second.
Is this about the Syrian military base being bombed by the US for 20 minutes, then ISIS rolling in and taking over? Or are we talking about something else?
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Emob78: Trump? Bombing innocent people with rockets and bombs? Oh, at first I thought you were talking about Obama. Had them mistaken for a second.
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rtcvb32: Is this about the Syrian military base being bombed by the US for 20 minutes, then ISIS rolling in and taking over? Or are we talking about something else?
We're talking about the one sided horseshit that comes out of people's mouth. Some people would rather complain about all the really horrible things Trump might do than actually analyze or criticize the really horrible things Obama HAS done... as the current sitting American fucking president.

Hey, at least Trump wouldn't have the sheer gall to bomb innocent people and use the American military for war while also gladly receiving a Nobel Peace Prize. There's hypocritical, and then there's get-the-fuck-outta-here-critical.
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Emob78: We're talking about the one sided horseshit
I'm not in the habit of forgetting the transgressions of the leaders and respective governments either one of your right wing parties have formed (nor the transgressions of my own country's politicians).

But to get back to the topic: There's no doubt that in this next presidential race, Trump's going in wearing the all-body tin foil hat with gold plating.


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TARFU: Here ya go:
"Buffalo Dental Manufacturing"?!

...what exactly are they doing with that tin foil??
Post edited September 23, 2016 by Vainamoinen
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TARFU: Here ya go:
Hrm, that looks like someone could have taken aluminum foil out of a box, and made their own box and printed their own label. I'm skeptical! :)
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skeletonbow:
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HereForTheBeer: Did find this place: http://www.advent-rm.com/catalogue/tin/foil/

At the prices for foil sheets thick enough and large enough to do any good, the tin foil helmeteers had better be pretty dedicated to their theories.
No, but when I click on your link I get a blank white page that says only:
"The resource you are looking for has been removed, had its name changed, or is temporarily unavailable."

So it's still a conspiracy theory that it ever existed IMHO. :)
Post edited September 23, 2016 by skeletonbow
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Emob78: We're talking about the one sided horseshit
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Vainamoinen: I'm not in the habit of forgetting the transgressions of the leaders and respective governments either one of your right wing parties have formed (nor the transgressions of my own country's politicians).

But to get back to the topic: There's no doubt that in this next presidential race, Trump's going in wearing the all-body tin foil hat with gold plating.

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TARFU: Here ya go:
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Vainamoinen: "Buffalo Dental Manufacturing"?!

...what exactly are they doing with that tin foil??
Well, you certainly like to criticize him as if he has already won the election. That in itself is telling.
What is a tinfoil? (aside from the obvious)
I don't really care either way, I just wish we could have open and honest discussions without mockery coming from both sides against the other. I'm not pointing out any specific threads, but often it turns into a "we majority believe this so you're an idiot" mudslinging fest rather than an actual evaluation of actual evidence.

As annoying as some of these threads may be, look at it this way: At least we CAN make such threads here. In other places, if you have a view that disagrees with the "company values" or whatever, that thread's getting deleted quick. I'd rather have the freedom to appear stupid than no freedom at all.
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zeogold: I don't really care either way, I just wish we could have open and honest discussions without mockery coming from both sides against the other. I'm not pointing out any specific threads, but often it turns into a "we majority believe this so you're an idiot" mudslinging fest rather than an actual evaluation of actual evidence.

As annoying as some of these threads may be, look at it this way: At least we CAN make such threads here. In other places, if you have a view that disagrees with the "company values" or whatever, that thread's getting deleted quick. I'd rather have the freedom to appear stupid than no freedom at all.
I guess I just don't have the patience for such crap I would have had in the past. Right now I'm living through the nightmare of conspiracy theory nutjobs ruling the country and rewriting recent history, so people trying to "preach" such nonsense no longer seem funny to me, just dangerous.

Also, as this seems to be where some people are drawing lines, my distaste for preaching conspiracy nonsense does should not suggest to anyone that I support Hilary Clinton. I pretty much despise her, and as for further details of my opinion on the upcoming US election, I don't really see this as the place to discuss it.
Post edited September 23, 2016 by Breja
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Breja: Right now I'm living through the nightmare of conspiracy theory nutjobs ruling the country and rewriting recent history,
How so? I mean, I've never heard of such a thing happening before.
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Breja: Right now I'm living through the nightmare of conspiracy theory nutjobs ruling the country and rewriting recent history,
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zeogold: How so? I mean, I've never heard of such a thing happening before.
Russia did it all the time under Stalin.

I hope I don't regret coming in here. Everyone in this conversation is a friend of mine. :P
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tinyE: Russia did it all the time under Stalin.
That's the result of a corrupt dictatorship, not a mass uprising of conspiracy theorists.

I mean, he could be saying that there are conspiracy theorists in power who happen to be trying to rewrite history, but I'd cite that more as a problem of his government structure than the worldviews of the people doing it.

No matter what beliefs you hold, that doesn't give you the right to change what's been recorded as happening. As a conspiracy theorist, you can certainly feel free to look at these recordings and determine from them that something in them is fallacious, but that doesn't mean you can rewrite it. That's a whole different bag of chips right there.
Post edited September 23, 2016 by zeogold
Think I'll go watch the football game. XD
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tinyE: Think I'll go watch the football game. XD
What's the point? It's all controlled by the people in power anyways. The results are stacked. Free will and choice are an illusion. The Illuminati control our every move.

...now, could you do me a favor and call one of these people in power and check who's going to win? I need to get me some money riding on 'em.
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tinyE: Think I'll go watch the football game. XD
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zeogold: What's the point? It's all controlled by the people in power anyways. The results are stacked. Free will and choice are an illusion. The Illuminati control our every move.

...now, could you do me a favor and call one of these people in power and check who's going to win? I need to get me some money riding on 'em.
Take a look at this and let's hear your thoughts on the matter.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/389686-eight-sports-conspiracies-that-prove-professional-sports-are-fixed

So my friend is a conspiracy person and I got this in a text:


For years, David Rockefeller and skull and bones, have been planning a 'new world order'. The Georgia guide stones are the ten commandments of the NWO. Read his quotes if you don't believe me. David Rockefeller has enough money to fund everything for his visionary image because he owns EVERYTHING from banks to politicians. Why do you think Obama has spent so much money in 1 Term then all the US presidents that ever lived combined! Why do you think that the economy in America is increasingly worse every year. (See the youtube video, Americas Ideal Distribution) This was all PLANNED. Still don't believe me? 9/11 was a propaganda, an 'inside job,' there is proof if you research 'operation Northwoods.' it was even signed off by all the US presidents EXCEPT for JFK. Why was it done? To create a conspiracy that Cuban was the heart of this crisis so that the military can go in there and kill everyone. The federal reserve is OWNED by David Rockefeller in secrecy, this is why he is so corrupt, everyday the federal reserve pumps FAKE money into his 'credit card', also reasons why the economy is bad. JFK, had a mission of shutting it down, but it was cancelled because.. wait for it, HE WAS ASSASSINATED! JFK was the only noble American president bold enough to stop this. The NWO is a one-world and it is being planned and being built left and right. There Georgia Guidestones first commandment out of the ten is to maintain humanity under 500million, which is 1/14th of the population we have now (Assuming we have 7B people). Meaning over 6.5B people will die, and that's where the coffins come in. Haven't you heard? The founder of CNN has recently donated 1B dollars for this crisis to happen! RESEARCH IT FOR YOURSELF. In the bible (Ephesians 6:12) it says an event like this occurring. My final warning is, if you haven't already, Soon a dot will be placed on your mail box marking you in 3 categories judging by your texts, emails and Google searches you have made, watched by the NSA. Blue dot - Take to the FEMA camps where you will be re educated for the new world order. Red dot - you know about the conspiracy and you are accused of a 'prolonged rebel' against the constitution, result is DEATH. Pink dot - you support the constitution and will be a good slave. All proof was taken by a recent whistle blower from the Government. (Noble people like him is what saves us from humanity's most horrible tactics) My friends please SHARE THE MESSEGE. Call me crazy but know this, It is the lie that is easier to believe then the hard truth. It is also the lie that imprisons you, and its the truth that frees you.?



How the hell do I argue in a constructive way with a person that believes in this stuff? I just stay quiet for the most part but then my friend starts with 9/11 crap and it all devolves with me yelling to investigate 3/11 and trying to make a mockery out of the whole thing......