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What is love? What is going on? Why are we here? Etc.

This thread is made in an attempt to divert conversation from the thread that is lamenting the news that a much loved youtube commentator has been diagnosed with terminal cancer.

Some in that thread have referred to his partner, and have suggested that she was opportunistic in her pairing with him, also referring to her status as having a child. The discussion then continued on to a more general discussion on poeple and their relationships with others.

I'm making this thread as a placeholder for the discussion to continue aside from the thread referring to his current condition, to which all I know wish him the best.
I was expecting an in depth look at Google-partner practises and the unlawful sale of data to third parties.
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Sachys: I was expecting an in depth look at Google-partner practises and the unlawful sale of data to third parties.
There's no need to discuss that. Google is pure evil, no debate required.
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Sachys: I was expecting an in depth look at Google-partner practises and the unlawful sale of data to third parties.
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wpegg: There's no need to discuss that. Google is pure evil, no debate required.
I'm pretty sure the label says only 99.2% evil.

...that really IS evil!
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Sachys: I was expecting an in depth look at Google-partner practises and the unlawful sale of data to third parties.
exactly what i was thinking when reading the title
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wpegg: What is love?
Baby don't hurt me
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wpegg: What is love? What is going on? Why are we here? Etc.

This thread is made in an attempt to divert conversation from the thread that is lamenting the news that a much loved youtube commentator has been diagnosed with terminal cancer.

Some in that thread have referred to his partner, and have suggested that she was opportunistic in her pairing with him, also referring to her status as having a child. The discussion then continued on to a more general discussion on poeple and their relationships with others.

I'm making this thread as a placeholder for the discussion to continue aside from the thread referring to his current condition, to which all I know wish him the best.
Was that the guy misinterpreting a joke?
All I know about relationships is what I've seen in animes .
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For men, love is a chemically induced altruism in the brain that makes men do irrational things to their detriment.

For women, love is a tool used to manipulate and control men for the benefit of females.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6SIDv2FF-M
Post edited October 18, 2015 by tort1234

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Basically, you refuse to hold the woman accountable for her despicable behavior and you demonize the man only. Sounds fair? It's not fair. Such ignorance and brainwashing can not be defeated with my words alone unfortunately. You need to stop hating men and look at every person as a human being, no matter what kind of genitals they have.
To everyone apart from yourself, you seem to be the one who is emotional here and making a fool of himself.

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Yeah and maybe she is also a really beautiful princess from another world with magic powers. You are making a fool out of yourself by telling me I am making a fool out of myself for simply being realistic.
You are not being realistic. If you think this is realistic why don't you stop arguing emotionally and start presenting some facts.

I don't know why you've got such an obsession with money by the way. Are you that poor that you would marry a religious woman to scam her out of her money, or what?

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So if someone uses logic instead of emotion or programming from brainwashing
You haven't got a clue about logic. Logic requires you to make a logically valid argument and it requires you to be able to prove that your premises are correct when confronted. You completely fail on both accounts.

Furthermore, you accuse us of being emotional while you are being extremely emotional with your argumentation.
I thought this thread was about GOG partners getting data of GOG users, and I was like "what the... that's newsworthy".

quote_166 monkeydelarge
Basically, you refuse to hold the woman accountable for her despicable behavior and you demonize the man only. Sounds fair? It's not fair. Such ignorance and brainwashing can not be defeated with my words alone unfortunately. You need to stop hating men and look at every person as a human being, no matter what kind of genitals they have.
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0Grapher: To everyone apart from yourself, you seem to be the one who is emotional here and making a fool of himself.

quote_167 monkeydelarge
Yeah and maybe she is also a really beautiful princess from another world with magic powers. You are making a fool out of yourself by telling me I am making a fool out of myself for simply being realistic.
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0Grapher: You are not being realistic. If you think this is realistic why don't you stop arguing emotionally and start presenting some facts.

I don't know why you've got such an obsession with money by the way. Are you that poor that you would marry a religious woman to scam her out of her money, or what?

quote_169 monkeydelarge
So if someone uses logic instead of emotion or programming from brainwashing
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0Grapher: You haven't got a clue about logic. Logic requires you to make a logically valid argument and it requires you to be able to prove that your premises are correct when confronted. You completely fail on both accounts.

Furthermore, you accuse us of being emotional while you are being extremely emotional with your argumentation.
Just because I say things you don't like hearing doesn't mean I'm in a highly emotional state. If I'm in a highly emotional state, trust me, you will know. If you can't see the logic in my previous posts, then that is your problem. :) You could read my posts again and see that I explained why this woman is most likely a scam artist with logic. And why I'm just being realistic. Of course, I can't say she is a scam artist as a fact. If I did say she is a scam artist as a fact in one of my previous posts then I made a mistake.

But I can safely say everything after this sentence are 100% facts. Whatever kind of bad person she is, she cost her ex husband, his time, his money and other resources and will cost him more in the future. And she also fucked up his life plan and emotionally abused him. Sure, his life plan looks retarded in your eyes and in the eyes of most people but it is not in his eyes. Deceiving someone the way she did is also emotional abuse and most likely will make him have serious trust issues in the future(if not also extremely bitter and depressed). The reason I didn't include more proof to back up my words in my previous posts is because this is all common sense. The same reason I am not going to include more proof in this post. But if you lack common sense and need more proof to see that relationships cost time, money and other resources. And need more proof to see that deceiving someone can mess up someone's life plan and is also emotional abuse, I will try to present you with some more proof.

I've got an obsession with money like most people because we live in a capitalist world and almost everything in this world, costs money. And in many countries in this world, not having money will result in homelessness and death. I wish things change for the better soon but it doesn't look like that will happen, any time soon. So basically, money is important to almost everyone. And to be obsessed with money is not a sign of being poor because almost everyone from poor people to wealthy people are obsessed with money. Money is power and freedom, after all. And just because someone is rich, like the religious guy we are talking about, doesn't mean money has no value to him. And it's very possible to be rich one day and poor in the future. And because of this woman's deception, this guy is probably going to lose half his money and some of his assets or much much more. And maybe after the divorce court tears him a new asshole, he won't even be rich anymore but upper middle class. And with some bad luck, it's very possible to go from upper middle class to poor. And there are not many things worse in life than going from riches to rags.
Post edited October 19, 2015 by monkeydelarge
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tort1234: For men, love is a chemically induced altruism in the brain that makes men do irrational things to their detriment.

For women, love is a tool used to manipulate and control men for the benefit of females.
I guess that is a fairly observational if not rather removed view. *Watches link for a few minutes* Right. Okay, if you watch that, then you really should listen to both sides, it helps to see the bigger picture. It will also enable you to understand that not everything that the "red pill" lot say is always for the betterment of mankind.


Yes, love is nothing more then a chemical reaction in the body for the fulfilment of continuing the species. Yet I feel you may have missed the more intricate detail.
Love is used to build a bond between members of the species for the safety and support to bring our offspring to maturity, and therefore the ability to then reproduce themselves. It also offers the members within safety, support and the ability to relax. It is why we feel love to more then just people we want to reproduce with, as we want attention, and love makes that available.
There was a study a while back that reckoned that the chemical love bond between people wore off after about 15 years - the rough age of a childs maturity. Also close to the averaged age of death for early humans, after reaching the age of maturity.

Yes women abuse their position in the sex game to a degree, but they are naturally inclined to. She wants the best genetics for her offspring and the best chances for all of her offspring to survive into adulthood. She also has a lot at risk, she can only produce (normally) one child at a time and she will naturally be the main carer for the child. As well as facing more of the life risking dangers of producing the child.
For men the risks are lower for producing the child, but higher in the wild for supplying food and resource to the mother and child. So men want to "spread their seed" to gain as many future offspring and as long as there would be the resources to feed and care for them. From their position, why should they not take advantage?

In modern times many women see the state as being the best supplier and therefore are not so taken by most men. Even so I think you do a disservice by playing men as morons and women as manipulative b*t*h*s.
Women are not manipulative because they hate men, they are manipulative because it is self serving and therefore part of self preservation. The same reason men and children are too. Women appear more manipulative during relationships because they require almost constant reiteration as to why they are spending/wasting their limited resource of time and reproduction with their partner.
The relationship with women and the state is because in most western countries the state supplies housing, food, clothes, education and the material money - even by removing it by force from men. So is the best supplier of her needed support.


Also if you must link to people like that, read things like this too - http://www.bbc.co.uk/science/hottopics/love/
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tort1234: For men, love is a chemically induced altruism in the brain that makes men do irrational things to their detriment.

For women, love is a tool used to manipulate and control men for the benefit of females.
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011284mm: I guess that is a fairly observational if not rather removed view. *Watches link for a few minutes* Right. Okay, if you watch that, then you really should listen to both sides, it helps to see the bigger picture. It will also enable you to understand that not everything that the "red pill" lot say is always for the betterment of mankind.

Yes, love is nothing more then a chemical reaction in the body for the fulfilment of continuing the species. Yet I feel you may have missed the more intricate detail.
Love is used to build a bond between members of the species for the safety and support to bring our offspring to maturity, and therefore the ability to then reproduce themselves. It also offers the members within safety, support and the ability to relax. It is why we feel love to more then just people we want to reproduce with, as we want attention, and love makes that available.
There was a study a while back that reckoned that the chemical love bond between people wore off after about 15 years - the rough age of a childs maturity. Also close to the averaged age of death for early humans, after reaching the age of maturity.

Yes women abuse their position in the sex game to a degree, but they are naturally inclined to. She wants the best genetics for her offspring and the best chances for all of her offspring to survive into adulthood. She also has a lot at risk, she can only produce (normally) one child at a time and she will naturally be the main carer for the child. As well as facing more of the life risking dangers of producing the child.
For men the risks are lower for producing the child, but higher in the wild for supplying food and resource to the mother and child. So men want to "spread their seed" to gain as many future offspring and as long as there would be the resources to feed and care for them. From their position, why should they not take advantage?

In modern times many women see the state as being the best supplier and therefore are not so taken by most men. Even so I think you do a disservice by playing men as morons and women as manipulative b*t*h*s.
Women are not manipulative because they hate men, they are manipulative because it is self serving and therefore part of self preservation. The same reason men and children are too. Women appear more manipulative during relationships because they require almost constant reiteration as to why they are spending/wasting their limited resource of time and reproduction with their partner.
The relationship with women and the state is because in most western countries the state supplies housing, food, clothes, education and the material money - even by removing it by force from men. So is the best supplier of her needed support.

Also if you must link to people like that, read things like this too - http://www.bbc.co.uk/science/hottopics/love/
So the smart thing to do is don't have sex.

If needed virtual girls at your beck and call is preferable to real women.

Wait, I think there is quite a number of guys just did that but label negatively..............

Wonder why some people pressure men to have a "real" relationship when "real" relationship is much inferior?
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Gnostic: So the smart thing to do is don't have sex.

If needed virtual girls at your beck and call is preferable to real women.

Wait, I think there is quite a number of guys just did that but label negatively..............

Wonder why some people pressure men to have a "real" relationship when "real" relationship is much inferior?
The smart thing you hint at I guess comes down to preference. For me sex is mine. I love having sex (if I were rich I would get diagnosed with sex addiction), but I think caution and protection is the way to go with complete strangers.

Virtual girls? Well I guess with games such as HoniePop available people have a degree of that - I know there are "harder" games on the market, but I have never played any of them.
I guess with the way social and environmental changes have risen about us it is not impossible, nor improbable that it could happen that people take virtual or at least robotic partners.
In Japan the social bonds are breaking as well as here in the West. Hell my current and past partners both wanted to chase their careers, shunning time with family for time at work. Then my current partner decided to buy herself pets and treats them a little like children, because and I quote "They are easy to keep" unlike a child. Which would interrupt her career and rise to the top.
The previous girlfriend has 2 children, my understanding is with different fathers, and quit that oh so wonderful job she fought so hard to climb the ladder in.

So social and natural relationship break down. After all it cannot just be me.
Looking at my friends with children. All bar one in broken / half functional relationships or with stepchildren.

Personally I cannot see a world without "love". Women need to feel wanted and loved, but the landscape may change quite drastically over the coming years.
So whilst yes, there is just a little bit of an imbalance in love, it is just how it works, and it has worked well for the entire of human history. No matter how much society changes, nor what the mainstream tells us we _now_ really want. Basic human desire will eventually win out. Sex is fun, our brains enjoy the dopamine cocktail. Our brains are still programmed to want to reproduce and so will attempt it - preservation of the genetics.

For me sex with a robot, just like your own hand could never be as good as half-assed drunk sex with another person. Yet I might be willing to give it a go.... I would be willing.