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NoScript isn't that bad once you've played with it long enough. Just set everything to be denied globablly, and temporarily allow them to run on a website until you get what you need to pop up. Once you've done it long enough, you see common names and can okay them to your whitelist, or just keep temporarily allowing them everytime you visit the page.

The sites that are irritating for me are the ones that pop up a window wanting you to turn off your ad blocker. For those sites, you can sometimes time it to where the first part of the page loads, hit the Escape key to stop the page from loading anymore, and it won't open that window. Most times that works.
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Fairfox: that was almost a question
Actually,it was a question.This symbol,exclude brackets (?) at the end of a sentence is a question.Well done!
Ublock origin seems to have a better reputation than Adblock plus, apparently blocks ALL ads, trackers as well...thanks for the recommendation, Themken!
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morolf: Ublock origin seems to have a better reputation than Adblock plus, apparently blocks ALL ads, trackers as well...thanks for the recommendation, Themken!
I prefer uBlock Origin. And if you know what you're doing you can also add uMatrix (which acts as a No-Script for third-party scripts). It's really astounding on some pages how many scripts you have to allow (temporarily or permanently) which in turn load other scripts until you actually see any content...
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Dark_art_: Do you really think the updates are really needed?
I mean, I´ve never update windows and the first thing I do when buying a new laptop is uninstall antivirus (and pretty much other pre installed software).
I´m not trolling, this is a legit question.
I have malwarebytes/etc on a thumb drive in case of problems, and by using scripts/script& ad blockers/common sense downloading/web browsing I usually steer clear of 90%+ of all major web infections with no problem.



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Dark_art_: Do you really think the updates are really needed?
I mean, I´ve never update windows and the first thing I do when buying a new laptop is uninstall antivirus (and pretty much other pre installed software).
I´m not trolling, this is a legit question.
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Tauto: I had a mate that done the same with his and used to pick up a virus every now and then he just reinstalled windows and wiped it.
That seems a tad extreme. I just keep windows recovery discs(the ones you make every so often) handy and a thumb drive with AVs like malwarebytes/etc so that a virus can't infect the copies I have.

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ZyloxDragon: NoScript isn't that bad once you've played with it long enough. Just set everything to be denied globablly, and temporarily allow them to run on a website until you get what you need to pop up. Once you've done it long enough, you see common names and can okay them to your whitelist, or just keep temporarily allowing them everytime you visit the page.

The sites that are irritating for me are the ones that pop up a window wanting you to turn off your ad blocker. For those sites, you can sometimes time it to where the first part of the page loads, hit the Escape key to stop the page from loading anymore, and it won't open that window. Most times that works.
Ad blocker detectors on pages have led me/others to get/develop ad blocker detector blockers. The cycle just goes on and on it would seem.
Post edited May 09, 2019 by GameRager
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morolf: Is the risk really that high?
I went without updates for months (maybe even over year) when Microsoft did that nonsense with sneaky updates to WIndows 10, and I didn't encounter problems.
If one keeps to newspaper sites, Amazon, Gog etc., doesn't visit porn sites or any dubious torrent sites, is there really that high a risk?
The last update I made is installing Windows 7 service pack from 2011, so I am without updates for 8 years. According to Internet I should have a completely unusable computer filled with viruses and pop up ads, yet I never had any issues. Same was when I was using outdated Windows XP up until 2012-2013. My security is an adblocker, a backup disk and some common sense. They are just scaring people more than they should, not everyone is out there to get you.
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morolf: Is the risk really that high?
In my opinion, it's over-exaggerated. Things that make far more of a real-world difference are:-

1. Browser patches

2. Using a white-listed firewall (block by default but allow by exception) instead of the default black-listed one (allow by default but block by exception). Even W10 defaults to the latter and it's ridiculous that people think it's "secure" when it literally allows any and every process to phone home without question. Bonus : This also blocks other unwanted stuff like Unity Engine telemetry that exists even in DRM-Free games.

3. Running uBlock Origin (which stops hostile scripts from running). Add Noscript for extra protection. Aside from killing off 99.9% of browser exploits, it'll also noticeably speed up page load times and reduce clutter making websites actually pleasant to read.

4. Change the default password on your router (if someone can remotely change your router's default DNS server to a compromised one, then every device on your network will be compromised)

5. If you're sharing a house / flat with other people, eg, university accommodation, always use a password, lock your PC when away from keyboard and encrypt all backups.

6. Common sense. Don't download / run programs from "questionable" sites / .exe's from torrents, don't give personal / login data over the phone to someone calling and pretending to be from your bank, etc.

Like Spectre & Meltdown exploits, OS patches are way down on the list of actual real-world vulnerabilities. I'd even go as far to say W7 + white-listed firewall + uBlock is probably 10,000x more secure than W10's default of black-listed firewall + runs every Javascript it can on every web page.
Post edited May 09, 2019 by AB2012
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GameRager: d blocker detectors on pages have led me/others to get/develop ad blocker detector blockers. The cycle just goes on and on it would seem.
I would rather stop using internet than browse without add-block. My internet connection is metered, I simply cannot waste date, even if I care.
Internet has become too much bllated in general, I guess we have to thank google. Even a web site like gog foruns can make a dual-core cpu 100% use for several seconds, browsing games on the main page takes easily 50 to 100Mb of data. I know it's 2019 but even new low end computers are struggling to load pages.

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AB2012: 2. Using a white-listed firewall (block by default but allow by exception) instead of the default black-listed one (allow by default but block by exception). Even W10 defaults to the latter and it's ridiculous that people think it's "secure" when it literally allows any and every process to phone home without question. Bonus : This also blocks other unwanted stuff like Unity Engine telemetry that exists even in DRM-Free games.
This may break a few programs but will do it for sure, thanks.

I understand that if most people wont update, it could be used as a exploit with mass effects. Wasn't "wannacry" the last high profile one? So high profile that crypto-mining big boom happens at the same time?

For those who think Linux is for nerds or hard, is not, It´s a god send. Using a bootable pen to access critical info websites is a must for me, I use linux Mint and is WAY easier than windows, Just insert the pen and browse what you need safelly, without any viruses or general malware installed.

Sameone mention android? XD
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Tauto: In relation to Win7 soon to be dumped by them?
Hey Tauto, Just update to windows 10 dude

IT ROCKS!

It's not much different then windows 7

just MAKE SURE you back up your game saves beforehand!

Most games work!
Post edited May 09, 2019 by fr33kSh0w2012
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morolf: Is the risk really that high?
I went without updates for months (maybe even over year) when Microsoft did that nonsense with sneaky updates to WIndows 10, and I didn't encounter problems.
If one keeps to newspaper sites, Amazon, Gog etc., doesn't visit porn sites or any dubious torrent sites, is there really that high a risk?
Updated browser would be the most important thing, and an ad blocker for it. Also, don't click on prompts to install stuff, no matter how much it looks like an OS dialog :)
im on windows 10 and have updates disabled cos u cant choose when to restart it etc. i dnt need windows updates cos ive disabled most things that people try and attack.

i used GPEDIT to disable the following, CMD,regedit,control panel,cortana, and many other things,

i also dnt use any web browser cos i used edge blocker to block microsoft edge and restricted the iexplore.exe from running in GPEDIT so internet explorer doesnt run either

the best way to protect your pc is to go into GPEDIT and disable any useless features BE WARNED that you can fuck your system up if you dnt know what your doing and i take no responsibility for that if you try using GPEDIT

you can permanently disable windows updates in GPEDIT a good thing to do is to read guides on it, ive found by not having a b rowser and securing my pc on a paranoid level its far more secure than people computers with just an antivirus and firewall, while it locked down to a paranoid level it still functions for what i want it for and thats just a 100% gaming rig, ofc when i had a browser i downloaded everything i needed before hand so i wouldnt need it again

if you use windows 10 i suggest getting

ribbon disabler from winaero gets rid of that god awful w10 bar and replaces it with the W7 one
shutup10 - is software that stops any data and telemetry services sending info about your pc to ms and other parties

and windows updates cause more issues than they solve i installed a new w10 version on my moms pc and it gave a clock error code something i have never experienced and im on a earlier build, so i dnt bother with updates, same with GPU drivers unless its a bugfix for a game you play theres really no need to update GPU drivers at all
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ZyloxDragon: Another thing you can do is run linux in a virtual machine and do all your browsing from there. Windows vulnerabilities will still be present on your host system, but most computers hit by malware are from compromised websites thru the browser.
Yes, and many VM packages will allow you to start fresh each time you restart. Just be sure that any save game directories and whathaveyou are being saved somewhere that writes to disk and malware check it constantly.

There's also products that will prevent software from writing outside of specific folders that can greatly reduce the risk of becoming infected.
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Tauto: In relation to Win7 soon to be dumped by them?
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fr33kSh0w2012: Hey Tauto, Just update to windows 10 dude

IT ROCKS!

It's not much different then windows 7

just MAKE SURE you back up your game saves beforehand!

Most games work!
You mean other than sending all your private infos to MS, having mandatory updates and generally being a pain in the arse? The user interface looks a lot like 7, but the OS is terrible.
Post edited May 09, 2019 by hedwards
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fr33kSh0w2012: Hey Tauto, Just update to windows 10 dude

IT ROCKS!
I'm not sure if you are being sarcastic or not.
Not wanting to jump on the "win10 is bad" bandwagon, the simple fact that no general Operating System can be good when it updates automaticly, makes it unusable if you want to trust your computer to do things.
Just search duckduckgo (this is sarcasm!) for people who had problems in the computer with auto updates, I guess you will find a little more than a dozen.

Not every version of win10 can use GPEDIT, most pre-installed cannot
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fr33kSh0w2012: Hey Tauto, Just update to windows 10 dude

IT ROCKS!
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Dark_art_: I'm not sure if you are being sarcastic or not.
Not wanting to jump on the "win10 is bad" bandwagon, the simple fact that no general Operating System can be good when it updates automaticly, makes it unusable if you want to trust your computer to do things.
Just search duckduckgo (this is sarcasm!) for people who had problems in the computer with auto updates, I guess you will find a little more than a dozen.

Not every version of win10 can use GPEDIT, most pre-installed cannot
aslong as its PRO or higher u can use it, and even if our on home theres a program called policy plus which lets all windows users use GPEDIT
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moobot83: aslong as its PRO or higher u can use it, and even if our on home theres a program called policy plus which lets all windows users use GPEDIT
Pro can use GPEDIT yes, but it also ignores certain things from GPEDIT. (Such as disabling Windows Updates.)

Microsoft only allow higher up than Pro (which we as home users don't have access to legally, higher than Pro.) Full control can only be had via Windows 10 Enterprise (which legally unless your a business and get it directly from Microsoft, you can never get.)
Post edited May 09, 2019 by Pond86