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AstralWanderer:
It seems likely your Windows XP is less secure than it was a few days ago, doesn't it? Given that the source code has been leaked and no-one is working on actively maintaining the code and patching security holes?

For all we know, MS may have leaked the source on purpose, to sabotage people who are trying to hold onto XP, rather than switching to newer versions of Windows.
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Time4Tea: It seems likely your Windows XP is less secure than it was a few days ago, doesn't it? Given that the source code has been leaked and no-one is working on actively maintaining the code and patching security holes?

For all we know, MS may have leaked the source on purpose, to sabotage people who are trying to hold onto XP, rather than switching to newer versions of Windows.
Or maybe people will have unofficial patches and dll replacements to make it better...

Though with the hardware changes are going to be enough most people are going to likely run it via a VM, so if the VM is insecure and gets hacked... COW (copy on write) and reset to a previous state. No problem.
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Time4Tea: It seems likely your Windows XP is less secure than it was a few days ago, doesn't it? Given that the source code has been leaked and no-one is working on actively maintaining the code and patching security holes?

For all we know, MS may have leaked the source on purpose, to sabotage people who are trying to hold onto XP, rather than switching to newer versions of Windows.
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rtcvb32: Or maybe people will have unofficial patches and dll replacements to make it better...
If anyone starts distributing unofficial patches to XP based on leaked source code, I would expect the MS lawyers to come down on that pretty hard ...
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AstralWanderer: That depends on the distro - Mint gives you any colour you want as long as it's green or grey...
That's a lot of greens and greys (see attachment), but assuming this is not enough, there is really no problem with downloading new themes, editing existing ones manually or changing the desktop environment entirely.
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Time4Tea: If anyone starts distributing unofficial patches to XP based on leaked source code, I would expect the MS lawyers to come down on that pretty hard ...
A 'patch' could/would be nothing more than a zip file with dll's. I highly doubt they could sue based on that.

Claiming it's a microsoft product, maybe. Saying it's a mod to XP, i doubt it.
Post edited September 28, 2020 by rtcvb32
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Time4Tea: For all we know, MS may have leaked the source on purpose, to sabotage people who are trying to hold onto XP, rather than switching to newer versions of Windows.
No. Because while I celebrate the leak from a point of "freedom of information", it's actually a catastrophe for many sectors.
XP on private and corporate PCs are one thing, but XP also runs on many machines like ATMs, industrial machinery, medical equipment. Many of those machines are designed to work for decades (30 years+ in engineering), some cost millions, and it's simply not possible to upgrade the OS to a new version, because they use specific drivers only available for XP.

And many of those machines are networked, because they have to report status or data (esp. medical data), or can only be controlled or configured by applications running on another PC (which then often also is stuck with the most recent Windows version the controller application still runs on).

You could say it's "broken by design" this way, and you'd be not wrong, but the reality is that companies and hospitals can't and won't throw away machines that would cost millions to replace.
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Time4Tea: It seems likely your Windows XP is less secure than it was a few days ago, doesn't it? Given that the source code has been leaked and no-one is working on actively maintaining the code and patching security holes?
Not really. The biggest malware makers (governments, TLA agencies, major criminal organisations) will have had access to the source for more than a decade (with governments, since its release). If anything, it might improve security if it makes it easier for third parties to produce patches and enhancements.

Default XP installs are going to be vulnerable no matter what, but locked down setups which disable the most exposed elements (SMB/CIFS, IE/OE, etc) and use third party software to restrict access aren't likely to see any change. Plus having the source available for GNU/Linux or xBSD doesn't seem to have impacted their security in most users' eyes.
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Time4Tea: If anyone starts distributing unofficial patches to XP based on leaked source code, I would expect the MS lawyers to come down on that pretty hard ...
If anyone includes MS code outside of its licensing (bear in mind that plenty of Windows code can be bundled with an application, like C++/DirectX redistributables or necessary Windows updates) then yes, Cease and Desists will start flying. However there are many ways to implement changes (patch files, diff files, DLL injection, drivers) without including a single byte of Windows code.

And if original code is being distributed, "proving" that it relied upon knowledge of leaked source code would require lawyers (and court judges) capable of mind-reading.
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tomimt: ... and I've used them since 3.11.
Me too. Windows 10 is the most bloated shark on the block. Goes without saying that while hardware gets faster and better - software gets slower and more bloated. Win10 is no exception.
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tomimt: ... and I've used them since 3.11.
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sanscript: Me too. Windows 10 is the most bloated shark on the block. Goes without saying that while hardware gets faster and better - software gets slower and more bloated. Win10 is no exception.
And even with all that bloat Win10 is the fastest Windows. I can only imagine how fast it would be stripped down.
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tomimt: I can only imagine how fast it would be stripped down.
At least we can agree on something :D
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AstralWanderer: Default XP installs are going to be vulnerable no matter what, but locked down setups which disable the most exposed elements (SMB/CIFS, IE/OE, etc) and use third party software to restrict access aren't likely to see any change. Plus having the source available for GNU/Linux or xBSD doesn't seem to have impacted their security in most users' eyes.
Well, the major difference there, obviously, is that GNU/Linux and BSD are under active development and maintenance. Having the source code open is a big benefit if the code is being maintained, because any identified vulnerabilities can quickly be fixed (and there is potentially a large community of people willing to contribute). For an old OS that is no longer being maintained, it's hard to see the source code being open as a good thing (unless people do indeed step forward to provide unofficial patches).
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Time4Tea: For all we know, MS may have leaked the source on purpose, to sabotage people who are trying to hold onto XP, rather than switching to newer versions of Windows.
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toxicTom: No. Because while I celebrate the leak from a point of "freedom of information", it's actually a catastrophe for many sectors.
XP on private and corporate PCs are one thing, but XP also runs on many machines like ATMs, industrial machinery, medical equipment. Many of those machines are designed to work for decades (30 years+ in engineering), some cost millions, and it's simply not possible to upgrade the OS to a new version, because they use specific drivers only available for XP.
Yes, that is a good point.
Post edited September 28, 2020 by Time4Tea

What are your guys thoughts on this?

Windows XP now will never die.
Meh. Fisher Price OS. Would rather have WinME source.

Fixing DOS mode might win over some the Win98se holdouts. Most of the luddites haven't figured out how to dualboot yet.
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paladin181: Considering Microsoft built DOS and the first Windows off stolen code, it's no wonder they would not release anything.
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AstralWanderer: Sorry to be blunt, but this is utter hogwash.

MS-DOS/PC-DOS was based on QDOS which was written by Seattle Computer Products (link). Microsoft bought the full rights to QDOS legally (though before telling Tim Paterson that their end customer was IBM) and made major enhancements to it in succeeding versions of MS-DOS.

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History concerning mega corporations should be taken with a grain of salt. Money distorts everything.

Though Microsoft played no part in it's creation, I would not be so quick to vouch for QDOS being a wholey original work. For many years it was widely believed to have contained code swiped from CP/M. Forensic analysis has cast significant doubt on those claims in the past 10 years or so but the actors involved were sketchy so it's still not entirely clear.

Was Microsoft's Empire Built on Stolen Code? We May Never Know

As a layman who wasn't there, I'll never know for sure and will have to take someone's word for it. I can say that I have great respect for the late Jerry Pournelle and would love to have heard Kildall's side of the story.
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rtcvb32: Or maybe people will have unofficial patches and dll replacements to make it better...
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Time4Tea: If anyone starts distributing unofficial patches to XP based on leaked source code, I would expect the MS lawyers to come down on that pretty hard ...
There is already a unofficial Windows XP Service Pack 4, not sure if it is on Source Code, but I been following that project since like 2014 or something like that.
The most important question is: can we play DX12 Cyberpunk on XP? Or it is too old like Win7 was?