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Posted November 07, 2015
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KneeTheCap: ...
My suggestion...

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Since Person A is some kind of hunter, he finds person B earlier than others and proposes him a deal. He will help B get out of country safely if B helps him enter those iron doors first. (here he may even consider that once B opens the door, he will give B to the hunters but that depends on his moral compass). B agrees since this is a way for him out of both Mages and hunters.

However the voyage together proves to be harder than they thought. Many times they have to fight side by side with mages and hunters who hunt them down. This builds a bond between them despite their dislike of eachother. (And trust me it does. As an ex soldier i can personally say that fighting together increase bonds no matter how much you hate eachother).
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I hope I understood your story and question. Goodluck and keep on writing ;)
Posted November 07, 2015
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KneeTheCap: That's the scenario. Would it be possible for Person A and Person B to become friends?
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JDelekto: I would think a person jealous of Person A would become libelous and have an ear to the King who would rashly now go after both Person A and Person B's heads. It's that jealous person who would want them both eliminated who would benefit from their treachery.

Person A and Person B are now both wanted persons, but need to pool their resources to get something more than what is behind those iron doors. ...now finding that root cause would be the interesting story.
Hmm, interesting. Thank you!
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KneeTheCap: ...
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Engerek01: My suggestion...

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Since Person A is some kind of hunter, he finds person B earlier than others and proposes him a deal. He will help B get out of country safely if B helps him enter those iron doors first. (here he may even consider that once B opens the door, he will give B to the hunters but that depends on his moral compass). B agrees since this is a way for him out of both Mages and hunters.

However the voyage together proves to be harder than they thought. Many times they have to fight side by side with mages and hunters who hunt them down. This builds a bond between them despite their dislike of eachother. (And trust me it does. As an ex soldier i can personally say that fighting together increase bonds no matter how much you hate eachother).
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I hope I understood your story and question. Goodluck and keep on writing ;)
Thank you as well! I have no personal experience with fights or anything, but I do imagine it strengthening the bond.
Post edited November 07, 2015 by KneeTheCap
Posted November 07, 2015
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KneeTheCap: That's the scenario. Would it be possible for Person A and Person B to become friends?
I see no reason not to, once they trust each other. That would likely be the main obstacle to friendship. Beyond that it's whether their characters are compatible. If they share something in terms of world view and ideology, that could make for a strong bond.
Posted November 07, 2015
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Engerek01: Many times they have to fight side by side with mages and hunters who hunt them down. This builds a bond between them despite their dislike of eachother.
Any stressful situation in which they need to rely on each other is likely to create a bond (and build trust).
Posted November 07, 2015
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ET3D: I see no reason not to, once they trust each other. That would likely be the main obstacle to friendship. .
Even when they come from completely different sides?
Posted November 07, 2015
My advice: Don't think, just write! It's easier than You think. ;)
Posted November 07, 2015
The stuff I write is mostly reviews but I'm trying to develop my own style.
Posted November 07, 2015
or what if the hunter and the hunted are the same person only the hunter is the earlier or younger self of the hunted and
the hunted is the older and wiser self of the hunter who in turn has to warn or advise the hunter
Posted November 07, 2015
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katie557: or what if the hunter and the hunted are the same person only the hunter is the earlier or younger self of the hunted and
the hunted is the older and wiser self of the hunter who in turn has to warn or advise the hunter
Uh oh, I smell time travel. :)
Posted November 07, 2015
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katie557: or what if the hunter and the hunted are the same person only the hunter is the earlier or younger self of the hunted and
the hunted is the older and wiser self of the hunter who in turn has to warn or advise the hunter
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JDelekto: Uh oh, I smell time travel. :)
uh uh i smell the doctor
Posted November 07, 2015
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KneeTheCap: Even when they come from completely different sides?
Sides mainly mean mistrust. It can be more than this if there has been propaganda built to demonise each other, but I didn't get the feeling that was the case here. Even then, there's no reason all people will fall for this, and in this particular case you've made it clear that person A has moral problems with what he's doing. So my feeling is that different sides in this case just manifest as an issue of trust, possibly even one that can be easily resolved.
Posted November 07, 2015
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JDelekto: Uh oh, I smell time travel. :)
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katie557: uh uh i smell the doctor
Do you mean Rex Harrison with the PushmePullYou?
Posted November 07, 2015
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KneeTheCap: Even when they come from completely different sides?
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ET3D: Sides mainly mean mistrust. It can be more than this if there has been propaganda built to demonise each other, but I didn't get the feeling that was the case here. Even then, there's no reason all people will fall for this, and in this particular case you've made it clear that person A has moral problems with what he's doing. So my feeling is that different sides in this case just manifest as an issue of trust, possibly even one that can be easily resolved.
There actually is propaganda. Here's a translation from my notes, detailing the general scene, without actually spoiling anything. I think.

"As a child, Williams lost her family who got locked behind a set of iron doors. She was sent to her aunt, Riva Merron, who took care of her and trained her as a mage tracker, per her father's will. As an adult, Williams has been tracking mages for the mage hunter group led by Merron. She often visits the iron doors located in her now deserted home town, but she has no way to open them.

One day a regular mission turns sour as Williams realizes not everything is as black and white as Merron and the general propaganda says. This causes her to have a breakdown and eventually quit the group, much to Merron's disdain. Later, the hunter group becomes aware that an unusually powerful mage is on the loose and has the King order Williams to join the group once more, against her will.

Wiliams then learns that the mage has the power to open the doors, giving her the possibility of finding out what really happened to her family all those years ago. Williams then saves the mage in question from the group of illegal mages, who wants to exploit the unique power. This action causes them to be hunted by both mages and the mage hunters."

Now, back to the question. Would it be realistic for Williams and the Mage to become good friends?
Posted November 07, 2015
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KneeTheCap: Now, back to the question. Would it be realistic for Williams and the Mage to become good friends?
If commercialism has anything to do with it, probably sharing a Klondike Bar.
Posted November 07, 2015
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KneeTheCap: Now, back to the question. Would it be realistic for Williams and the Mage to become good friends?
I think it depends a lot on Williams, but I'll come to it a bit later.

Being on opposite sides isn't by itself a huge barrier. It's still a matter of trust. People are taught that their enemies are out to get them, but anyone who isn't a fanatic will likely be willing to accept a person of the other side as a person once it's clear that the "enemy" doesn't wish him or her harm.

In this case both are already outcasts from their own groups of their own will, and don't believe that things are black and white. Both have reasons to stick together, Williams for finding what happened to her family, the mage for protection from his or her own group. So this partly falls back to the question of whether they could have been friends had they been in the same group.

I assume that you want them to be friends, and I think, given the above, that it's entirely plausible (if we assume that only the circumstances are keeping them from being friends). Still, a lot of it falls to how Williams will behave. Williams has already saved the mage, so the mage would think of her favourably. On the other hand, Williams only wants to use the mage, and if she reveals that tactlessly, the mage is likely to feel she's no different than the illegal mages.

Here it's up to you to determine how their behaviour will help or hinder the friendship. Williams will likely need to be convinced that the mage is more than just a tool. This could come from finding something they share (like loss of their families) or from the mage doing something "beyond the call of duty", such as saving her life back in the extreme case, or just showing gratitude in nice ways. The mage may be a little paranoid at this point, but if Williams treats him or her right that might alleviate the fears.


tl;dr: These are two people who have good reasons to work together; they aren't at cross purposes. The obstacle to their friendship is realising that.
Post edited November 07, 2015 by ET3D
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