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So the prices of these cards are finally going down in my country. There is currently an ASUS ROG STRIX 1080ti on offer for $933 That is ~$150 drop from what it was last week. I have a great inkling to pull the trigger on this one. My goal was to buy for around $900 and this is probably the closest it will get (if we ignore the inferior models).
I would be upgrading from a GTX 780 (so way more than double the performance).

Is there any reason why you wouldn't buy a 1080ti at this time? Anyone would recommend a different 1080ti other than STRIX?

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I know about the RTX 2080 but I'm not impressed. The performance is basically toe to toe while being about $270 more expensive. The 2080ti is out of the question for that exorbitant price ($1600+ where I live) and even though I could afford it, I will not support this corporate greed. The RTX and DLSS are bets on the future and just promises at this point. Even then, Ray tracing will probably not be feasible at decent frames until next gen. The only question that remains is, if DLSS is worth $270 which I have trouble justifying.

Thoughts?
I have a MSI GTX 1080TI Gaming X Trio since last year and it performs excellent at 1440p, very good at 4K with some sacrifices not to mention it runs very cool and quiet so i couldn't be happier with that purchase.

Asus ROG Strix is also an excellent card although Asus are usually an expensive brand also with the RTX prices being as they are and the 2080 barely pulling more fps than 1080TI then it's hard to justify buying anything else and at 270$ more then fuck no, that's awful value.

RTX is interesting but the technology haven't had time to mature and it has only been pushed out so developers start working and improving it for future generations, Turing might utilize it but it's definately for future gens and without AMD in that race yet it's doubtful that it will be optimized and utilized to it's full potential and most developers priorize the most common tech aka midrange and consoles.

NVLink has potential but yet again it's not there yet to be worth investing in a RTX card not to mention the scaling isn't that much higher than SLI yet, it's higher but not nearly enough, it's just a more refined version of SLI atm.

As for DLSS it's too early to say yet, if Nvidia can make the resolution scaling unnoticeable and make it look like true SSAA without the tanking in fps since the T-cores takes the heat of it then it's great but everything about this new generation is pushing out future technology nothing else.
Post edited October 01, 2018 by ChrisGamer300
What resolution are you playing at? I went to a 1080ti mostly to also go to a 4K monitor. Most articles I've read say that this is really the only need for it.
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ChrisGamer300: I have a MSI GTX 1080TI Gaming X Trio since last year and it performs excellent at 1440p, very good at 4K with some sacrifices not to mention it runs very cool and quiet so i couldn't be happier with that purchase.

Asus ROG Strix is also an excellent card although Asus are usually an expensive brand also with the RTX prices being as they are and the 2080 barely pulling more fps than 1080TI then it's hard to justify buying anything else and at 270$ more then fuck no, that's awful value.

RTX is interesting but the technology haven't had time to mature and it has only been pushed out so developers start working and improving it for future generations, Turing might utilize it but it's definately for future gens and without AMD in that race yet it's doubtful what that it will be optimized and utilized to it's full potential and most developers priorize the most common tech aka midrange and consoles.

NVLink has potential but yet again it's there yet to be worth investing in a RTX card not mention the scaling isn't that much higher than SLI yet, it's higher but not nearly enough, it's just a more refined version of SLI atm.

As for DLSS it's too early to say yet, if Nvidia can name the scaling unnoticeable and make it look like true SSAA without the tanking in fps since the T-cores takes the heat of it then it's great but everything about this new generation is pushing out future technology nothing else.
Yeah, the DLSS is the only thing that has me even thinking about the RTX. But it's true that they are more of a pioneer cards than anything else.

Gaming X Trio is unfortunately not available here anymore.
I think I should mention feasible alternatives. Keep in mind that those are right now at least a $100 more expensive than the STRIX.
Gigabyte - Aorus and Aorus Xtreme Edition
EVGA - SC2 or FTW3
MSI - Gaming X
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wpegg: What resolution are you playing at? I went to a 1080ti mostly to also go to a 4K monitor. Most articles I've read say that this is really the only need for it.
1440p 144-165Hz monitor. I am fully aware that 1080ti would be a complete overkill for 1080p but I recently upgraded my display and need something with more juice to make it fully worth it.
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idbeholdME: Is there any reason why you wouldn't buy a 1080ti at this time? Anyone would recommend a different 1080ti other than STRIX?
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idbeholdME: 1440p 144-165Hz monitor. I am fully aware that 1080ti would be a complete overkill for 1080p but I recently upgraded my display and need something with more juice to make it fully worth it.
That being said, no objections. If you are ok with the current price, go for it. It's an awesome card and will stay that way for good years to come, RTX bling-blings aside.
EVGA is good and their warranty is usually very good and long but i have one gripe with them and that is their build quality has in recent years fallen behind MSI and Asus quite a bit in terms of cooling, noise and OC potential.

Gigabyte i'm usually not paying attention to but their Aorus premium brand is quite solid overall but the price tends to be quite high for it, still Strix is the better card.

Regular Gaming X lacks the triple fan cooler so that's one thing to keep in mind.
Post edited October 01, 2018 by ChrisGamer300
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ChrisGamer300: I have a MSI GTX 1080TI Gaming X Trio since last year and it performs excellent at 1440p, very good at 4K with some sacrifices not to mention it runs very cool and quiet so i couldn't be happier with that purchase.

Asus ROG Strix is also an excellent card although Asus are usually an expensive brand also with the RTX prices being as they are and the 2080 barely pulling more fps than 1080TI then it's hard to justify buying anything else and at 270$ more then fuck no, that's awful value.

RTX is interesting but the technology haven't had time to mature and it has only been pushed out so developers start working and improving it for future generations, Turing might utilize it but it's definately for future gens and without AMD in that race yet it's doubtful what that it will be optimized and utilized to it's full potential and most developers priorize the most common tech aka midrange and consoles.

NVLink has potential but yet again it's there yet to be worth investing in a RTX card not mention the scaling isn't that much higher than SLI yet, it's higher but not nearly enough, it's just a more refined version of SLI atm.

As for DLSS it's too early to say yet, if Nvidia can name the scaling unnoticeable and make it look like true SSAA without the tanking in fps since the T-cores takes the heat of it then it's great but everything about this new generation is pushing out future technology nothing else.
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idbeholdME: Yeah, the DLSS is the only thing that has me even thinking about the RTX. But it's true that they are more of a pioneer cards than anything else.

Gaming X Trio is unfortunately not available here anymore.
I think I should mention feasible alternatives. Keep in mind that those are right now at least a $100 more expensive than the STRIX.
Gigabyte - Aorus and Aorus Xtreme Edition
EVGA - SC2 or FTW3
MSI - Gaming X
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wpegg: What resolution are you playing at? I went to a 1080ti mostly to also go to a 4K monitor. Most articles I've read say that this is really the only need for it.
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idbeholdME: 1440p 144-165Hz monitor. I am fully aware that 1080ti would be a complete overkill for 1080p but I recently upgraded my display and need something with more juice to make it fully worth it.
Well, I went with an EVGA about 10 months ago, and was very happy playing Sniper Elite 4 at 4K res. If your monitor has G-Sync then it will benefit a lot from it (though I had to turn it off for windowed mode due to instability). By the sound of it, you've got a use case for the extra juice, and a price that's compatible for you. Sounds like you should give it a go. The only thing I've found stretched it was Shadow Of War high res textures at 4K. It got very hot then, but then that was in the middle of a heat wave. At the slightly lower res of 1440p, any 1080ti card should be fine for your needs, so it sounds like you're making the right choice grabbing the cheaper one.
Because Black Friday, is pretty close, and you might find a better deal. I bought my rx 580 last year and i have yet to see a better deal until now. And that was during the mining craze.
I also think prices will continue to fall. So I'd buy when the price is right and the tech meets your needs. I think rtx will be the thing to have in the near future as the card starts to amaze. Butt those prices are very high.
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MadalinStroe: Because Black Friday, is pretty close, and you might find a better deal. I bought my rx 580 last year and i have yet to see a better deal until now. And that was during the mining craze.
Yeah, the BF gives me some doubts, but this is pretty much the lowest the prices have been in quite a while. It is just several months ago when they still asked almost $1100 for a 1080ti here. If BF goes below this price ($933), it would not be by much (seeing the demand is still quite high). They might hit somewhere around $900 at best is my guess and things tend to run out of stock pretty fast on BF so waiting might backfire hard.

Even the monitor I got was like 3 weeks ago at a huge discount for ~$480.

Also forgot to mention:
I don't plan on playing it but the STRIX has CoD: BO4 for free with it.
I'd wait for the 2000-series to hit the market, as that will most likely start bringing the price tags for 1000-series down quite a bit.
Just an FYI. I placed the order for the STRIX yesterday in the evening, along with a Seasonic Prime Ultra 750W Gold PSU. My previous PSU would have probably been sufficient power-wise (Corsair, 600W, Bronze), but it doesn't have the necessary PCI-E power cables (the 1080ti requires 2 8-pins).

Going to pick both up today, Thanks everyone for the input
Post edited October 02, 2018 by idbeholdME
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idbeholdME: Is there any reason why you wouldn't buy a 1080ti at this time?
You are paying MSRP for 2 year old technology. That's not a "deal." It's just that all the other options are even worse, with the 20 series being outright scams IMO; there's no reason for anyone to buy those 20 series cards other than game developers who will use them to create games.

So 1080 Ti is indeed the best option right now if you can afford it, but just not good in the grand scheme of things (since two year old tech should be way cheaper than its original MSRP...the only reason it's not is because Nvidia has no competition and thus no financial incentive to price their products reasonably).

As for reasons not to buy it now: the 20 series is a short stop-gap generation that wont' last very long. 7 nm GPU tech is coming out next year. No doubt Nvidia will respond to AMD's 7 nm GPU offering with a much better Nvidia product also on 7nm that will make the 1080 Ti a lot more obsolete than it is now.

But if you don't feel like waiting until next year, or can't, then yes, you might as well go with the 1080 Ti right now.

I don't agree with others who say the 1080 Ti prices will fall. I think they will be completely out of stock before they go significantly below MSRP. They are still in very high demand and that isn't going to change, since the 10 series has no competition other than perhaps the 20 series, and only rich people can afford the 20 series.

I also don't agree that RTX will be the thing to have in the near future. RTX is two or three generations away before it will ever even be worth turning on, since it's a frame-rate killer and not ready for prime time in this first generation of it.

Furthermore, devs aren't going to start making RTX-based games when barely any consumers have the cards to run them. IMO it will take a few years, at the least, before RTX gains any kind of significant adoption that causes devs to base their games around it.

The RTX that does come up in the near future will be afterthought gimmicks, not fundamental features that are core to the game.
Post edited October 02, 2018 by Ancient-Red-Dragon
Nvidia are probably giving some game developers incentives (maybe help with development) for them to implement the new technologies to start the snowball.
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Ancient-Red-Dragon: I don't agree with others who say the 1080 Ti prices will fall. I think they will be completely out of stock before they go significantly below MSRP. They are still in very high demand and that isn't going to change, since the 10 series has no competition other than perhaps the 20 series, and only rich people can afford the 20 series.
I expected a small, about 10% drop which has happened this week (14% to be exact from what it was 2 months ago) and it is why I'm buying it now. I doubt the prices will get much lower before they go out of stock completely. They might go a % or 2 lower on black Friday, but I'm not risking the cards not being available by then.
And seeing that the 1080ti is still highly relevant, the price in my country will not go below $847 for new because it's the MSRP with 21% VAT included in my country. Add import fees to that (say $50) and reseller cut and I think it's hitting the $900 territory already. So I'm willing to pull the trigger at $933, especially because it's STRIX and not some cheaper model like ARMOR or some other "not so good" models.

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Themken: Nvidia are probably giving some game developers incentives (maybe help with development) for them to implement the new technologies to start the snowball.
Yeah, but the only game so far that has confirmed DLSS that I am interested in is the new Serious Sam. So most likely not worth it. And if needed, I could just buy next gen cards which might be able to handle Ray Tracing at more that 50FPS at 1080p :P.
Post edited October 02, 2018 by idbeholdME