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Johnathanamz: I will let you know my opinion on Diablo II Resurrected when Activision-Blizzard Entertainment sell it on gog.com, with the original version of Diablo II included.
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KasperHviid: This is an aside, but you can toggle between resurrected and classic directly from the game.
I know that, I read about that.

I prefer the original video game to be included with the remaster on top of that in the purchase of the video game.
Well, I don't think right now, or everafter is a good time to give Activision any money, but hey.

What do I know, maybe the problem will finally be removed.
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AB2012: Personally I've never been that interested in the online multi-player aspect, but as long as it remains DRM'd ("Requires Battle.net DRM and a constant internet connection for all game modes" even for single player), then I'm not interested in it at all. The original + widescreen patch + PlugY is good enough for me (I did a Necromancer run earlier in the year and it still plays absolutely fine).
I still keep my original + Plugy permanantly installed and Necromancer is one of my favorite classes. :)

Heck, I even re-bought it from the Blizzard site last year (or maybe year before?), just so I wouldn't feel guilty about using Plugy version lol.
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Pretty meh about it. All it is is a DRMd coat of paint. Not saying it doesn't look good (although some of the new character models are "questionable" at best) but I'm not getting it simply due to the fact that it will be forever locked to the latest patch and the Blizzard Launcher, which verifies your game on every launch.

Also the removal of LAN was a pretty shitty move, ensuring that servers running community mods that people can play won't be a thing.
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Gudadantza: Wasn't always Batllenet a requirement for multiplayer part in every Blizzard game? even old Diablo II?
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vv221: You can play the original Diablo 2 without Battle.net:
- single player
- LAN multiplayer
- direct IP multiplayer

From these game modes, none is available without the Blizzard client on the remaster.
Exactly. Which renders the remaster pointless for me. Not that Diablo 2 really needed a remaster. It's just a quick cash grab for the developer, like most remasters and in this case even a DRM-ed cash grab.
Mmm what i'd realy want to see, is they take the original D2 game (1.09d), recompile for 64bit and raise to 60fps. Upgrade textures to 4x what they are, allow for 1080p resolutions, re-render all cinematics for 720-1080, and leave it open for modding with most other features left as is. (Leave it so older mods will work). (Since it's more or less sprites and not 3d models not sure about adding models in...)

As i understand dug under the engine of D2, you have a duration and a damage value, duration being frames and locked at 24fps. This allows ongoing poison damage. Also everything is by 100x larger than it really is. So doing 3 damage is 300, this way when you split it into frames you can get basically integer fixed-point. Get hit for 30 damage over 5 seconds? 3000 / 120 = 25 damage per frame... The inverse is done for healing where you get a 100 hitpoint healing over 3 seconds...

It was these internal designs that made damage exceeding 300k damage an annoyance in mods since if you went over it looped to zero. Then there was holes of damage. If it was made using 64bits most of those issues just go away.

Then lastly there was the herodric cube, or specifically recipes. There's some internal limit in how it hashes the recipes where you can only have about 300Million recipes. In Zy-El Kato got to that limit and i think that's why there's only a 4.4 version and he didn't keep going since you couldn't keep adding more. A number of the recipes are for simple things. Probably what ate a lot of room was the poker game he included (7 card poker to get a item).
Concur with previous posts, why bother switching from original version. The only switch I would make is occasional switches between patches to enable certain mods. Check out moddb for some really good mods to extend/expand D2 and you really want need a “remaster” (I use quotes here specifically to refer to where they use remaster/remake etc. Simply to mean pay again, a common industry thing, also known as doing a beamdog).
I have diablo 3 on PS4, never really got far with it though. There seems to be a real lack of decent aRPG titles, last one I played was the ascent which was actually very good. Other than that I struggle to think of a good title (note I only play solo, so no multiplayer issues).
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StingingVelvet: Also Diablo 2 probably had LAN options, though I honestly don't remember.
It did. Played it a ton. Took half a dozen old laptops and a switch with us to the cabin and played it that way a few times.
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KasperHviid: Yes?
Just get and play Grim Dawn. It's by far the best entry in the genre. It has a Diablo 2 revival style mod to apply if you really want to go for that nostalgia itch. But Diablo 2's gameplay has both expired and been surpassed numerous times.
Post edited November 17, 2021 by mqstout
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My opinion would be to not even bother with it. It is a solid remaster overall, and can feel sort of "fresh" temporarily because of that, but the game is still very dated and feels that way. If you've spent any time with Diablo 3, Grim Dawn, or other more modern games in the genre then D2R is just going to feel like dog shit to play.

There was some information that came out that suggested that a "hotbar" might be coming for KB/m configurations (controller already has it), which would make the gameplay far better with a skill hotbar and "quick casting", but right now it just feels clunky and dated.

Even if they fix that it's still D2 and it's not a very good game by modern standards. It doesn't respec your time at all, it still has bots spamming nonstop in the lobby, and every other complaint you could think of.

This was basically a "distraction" release at a convenient time for Blizzard, because D4 and OW2 are in development hell and losing key team members left and right, and we all know the other issues with Blizzard...

Just my opinion, but you're better off spending your money elsewhere. Like buying some new games here on GOG or something.
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Ancient-Red-Dragon: It already isn't faithful at all to the original, but rather it's retconned woke SJW propaganda, just like all other modern Blizzard games.
Hey ARD,

Not sure why you were downvoted here, I guess this is typical GOG kiddie behavior when they see a post they don't like or agree with... But you're right on the money with that statement. D2R is censored to hell and back and there's many instances where you can switch back on forth between Remaster and Legacy graphics to see it right for yourself.

It should be obvious to anyone when they intentionally made the characters ugly (the Amazon was so manly looking and the fan complaints were so bad that they did go back and try to fix it a tiny bit), they race swapped a character, outfits were censored, nudity and other instances of violence / dead bodies were removed or censored, and probably many more things that I can't even remember right now or even know about.

I'm not sure what the reason for all this was, but it certainly wasn't a remaster for the fans. It's actually an insult to the fine people who actually worked on the game originally, and Mark Kern has talked about a lot of that in the past.

Blizzard is even actively scrubbing WoW of anything that is problematic or not "woke" enough. They're removing cleavage or anything remotely sexual from characters, paintings in game that were too suggestive have been removed or remade, and all sorts of other nonsense.

This goes back long before anything recent also. They censored Sylvanas back in the day, Hearthstone cards were censored after the fact, they censored stuff in Diablo 3, we already know how trash Overwatch is. Honestly, the only decent game they have is Heroes of the Storm, and that game is in maintenence mode / dead because it was late to the party and could never compete with two established juggernaughts in LoL and DotA.
Post edited November 17, 2021 by TomNuke
It has DRM. If you don't mind that I can't recommend it enough.
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DRM and Wokeness. No thanks.
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TomNuke: and other instances of violence / dead bodies were removed or censored.
Even that? I knew about most of the other stuff, but didn't see any screens/comparisons of this (didn't buy the game). Any examples?

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TomNuke: Blizzard is even actively scrubbing WoW of anything that is problematic or not "woke" enough. They're removing cleavage or anything remotely sexual from characters, paintings in game that were too suggestive have been removed or remade, and all sorts of other nonsense.
Oh yeah, what they are doing with WOW at the moment is downright hilarious. "There is a woman on that painting, QUICK, replace it with a bowl of fruit!!!" Censoring/cutting out years old dialogue and voice lines. Current Blizzard is a caricature of the old name...


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TomNuke: Honestly, the only decent game they have is Heroes of the Storm, and that game is in maintenence mode / dead because it was late to the party and could never compete with two established juggernaughts in LoL and DotA.
That last time I would have called HOTS decent would be before "HOTS 2.0" released. Since then, it has been going downhill. Used to play back then...
As a fan of the original D2 Amazon I don't like the pictures I saw of her in NewD2 as much as I don't like alleged other changes to make D2 more tame. So thats pretty much a no deal.

If I would have liked what I saw and heard Its still a game I prefer singleplayer tie to an online connection. While I have become a tiny bit more tolerant in that regard I'm not really there yet and don't think I ever will be; so another no deal.

Finally I don't like Acti/Blizzard anymore. They mistreat their staff on all kind of levels and when finally called out try to weasel out of everything in the most pathetic way ever using all loopholes available while making big marketing BS washed speeches on how they want to right their wrongs. Making sexy & strong female characters ugly, covering them up or removing them altogether from their games does not equal to giving your staff fair and equal treatment. Even worse: Its message is misogynistic as hell (How to make a woman feel save? Blizz: To remove either her or anything that make her look appealing). Blizz: RIGHT YOUR WRONGS TO YOUR STAFF; PAST, PRESENT AND FUTURE. PAY THEM FAIRLY And stop with your blatant, toxic, lying trough your teeth non-pologies to your player base (and everyone else) & destructive fake virtue signaling. ... *sigh* as if anyone involved would ever read this :/

So even if the game would hit all levels of great & appealing to my personal taste and would be sold here DRM free I would like to think I will be able to hold off buying it. And since I'm not that much into iso perspective games anymore I think I would endure ;)


On the pro side the GFX updates in general look pretty rad though.
It looks competently done, but can't say I care for the character re-designs, particularly the barbarian and amazon. Not that it matters, since I've written off the company like several others here. In any case, I feel like I'm over hack-n-slash loot grinding games. Or perhaps I just got Diablo 2 out of my system back in the day with my lvl71 barb.
No, I mean for me it's done. I've played enough over the years of the original that a bit of graphical window-dressing is not going to invite me into DRM territory to play the same game over yet again. And to hear they've gone and altered the original character/set designs in the process ... double nope.

I've moved on - I'm much more likely to replay Grim Dawn again. Sure, if GOG was to sell the original it would certainly tempt me to re-buy for "the collection", but I'm not rewarding Blizzard for changing old games for a re-sell, so nope to the remaster.